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Strewf 11 May, 2008, 18:09	No, No, No! Corruption has no boundary, has no country either it is human greed its everywhere, for an inexplicable reason people try and justify it, there is no justification it is what the 21st Century is all about, everyone for himself! From the small company to the big cooperations and yes governments too, but then its all human and nothing less than humans trying to laud it over another human, shame because if we are as some stupid persons seem to think that we come from chimps, how come they do not get influenced with corruption and yet we being a descendant and supposed to be more intelegent are less so, and yet more prone to corruption! permalink quote 0 Strewf
dan 31 May, 2008, 08:40	To obtain a visa for most countries in the world only takes a few days regardless of who you are.To get a visa for Russia takes 16 working days but if you pay more to the Russian embassy they will process your visa much quicker depending onhow much you are prepared to pay.$75 for 16 days rising to about $400 for one day.Is this official corruption? permalink quote 0 dan
Rad 3 June, 2008, 23:23	No, corruption is not Russia's incurable disease. If you want to see corruption in Russia, try to imagine the nightmare of that ever so conniving "Russian exile Tycoon" in London and his unrelenting, bumbling, devious plotting Chess Master friends coming to power through some grand master criminal trickery in Russia, and how quickly they would empty the Russian treasury into their pockets and those of their western benefactors, all in the name of democracy and Mother Russia. This threat is one of the greatest dangers Russia has faced and still faces each and every day. For some reason, there are those who wish to portray Russia as the only place in the universe with problems. Even if these "problems" are blown up out of proportion to build this myth against Russia, as if they are free of sin. There is rampant and much more serious corruption in the west, especially the USA. I wish RT would report more about this. From the lowest levels in their American cities and towns, there is an "old boy" atmosphere and structure. This transcends to the very top of their government and courts through every working structure of their "democracy." Every now and then they may prosecute a few high profile cases relating to corruption, but in the USA, corruption is a cornerstone of their democracy and never disappears. There are actually two classes of people in the USA. The insiders who have influence and everyone else. Try to picture a small town in the USA where the people of influence occupy all the positions of power such as Mayor, Police Chief, Judge, Commission heads, Faculty at a School, Media, etc. Collectively they also own or control most of the commercial interests and expensive property. They belong to the same church, clubs and socialize together. Through their friendships they reach a common understanding that they all need to work together in order to maintain their positions of power. They are judge, jury and executioner. Would any of you feel safe and secure living in their American small town? In the USA, many such towns have banded together to become a City and then part of a County. There are many such Counties in a State. 50 or so such States make up the USA. This is what the USA represents. Corruption is intertwined within the very fabric of their lives in these two Americas. The one of corruption you don't see so apparently at first, disguised by the other representing their fantasy land of make believe. Some of you think that in the USA, their wealthy, officials and government workers at all levels have somehow transcended humanity to become baby faced angels. That's not true. Corruption exists and it's very dangerous, especially if you become their victim at any level and have the misfortune to expose or fight for truth. Then you'll learn the true meaning of their American democracy and what it really means. permalink quote 0 Rad
Steve 5 June, 2008, 21:15	Rad, it's painfully obvious that you have little or no experience in living in the USA. Your implication that causes people to be excluded from economic and social prosperity is ridiculous. is there corruption in America? of course there is. There is corruption all over the world, because we are human. Unlike many other nations, corruption in America.at ever level.is held in check by the press. The American press answers to no one, and will gladly report corrupt practices by mayors, Govenors, Senators, Business Leaders, etc. many of the "good ol boys" have had their careers ruined by a press expose. The surest way to keep corruption to a minimum while still maintaining freedom is an impartial and independent press. permalink quote 0 Steve
sunnymarky 6 June, 2008, 07:57	How interesting on a thread "Corruption":Russias Incurable Disease" started by RT because they know its a disease, posters want to talk about other countries in particular USA and UK. Some people seem in denial , blinkered , blind or perhaps have no idea how much of a disease it is . Less than 20 years since the fall of the Soviet Union all evidence shows that much of the same corrupt practices and more because of the wealth created and lack of accountablity and controls. permalink quote 0 sunnymarky
David 18 June, 2008, 17:40	Dan, re. the visa situation. Goodness knows what problems you have experienced in getting a Russian Visa and the cost involved, and from which Embassy, but I can get my Visa through normal channels and nominal cost within 7-10 days (including weekend). I have never experienced a problem with the Russian authorities. The Russian costs are quite reasonable. Of course, if you wish for a Visa to be processed in 1 day you are to pay more. This I, think, is quite acceptable and not corruption. But to use your example how about examining England's costing structure re. Visa issues, the processes involved, the costs involved re. Entry Visa's - these costs are out of reach for a lot of people - is this not corruption based on what you have said? Where you have corruption in Russia is quite open and one knows of its existence. The problem lies in the West where corruption is so rife, particularly in Gvt. circles. One cannot deny it and the matter is brushed under the carpet. It is time that the West woke up - one has to look at the so called oil crisis. Raising the price, unnessessary so, is this not corruption? Raising the price of fuel, in England, 1p-2p each week, is this not corruption? One can go on for many hours giving simple examples of how corrupt the West is. I am giving credit where credit is due, the Russian authorities at the London Embassy have always done me good and have no issue. permalink quote 0 David
Rad 30 June, 2008, 21:01	Response to writings by Steve on June 6, 2008, 01:15 Steve, it's painfully obvious that you've made the wrong conclusion about my experiences since you are gravely wrong. Continuing in your mistaken beliefs, you speak as if the American Press is a "Holier than Thou" service of the anointed one. This is in no way the case as you would have us believe. Granted that they are regulated by the US Government and can have their license to operate revoked or suffer other consequences. But just who are these people you call the Press? Anointed ones? Are they owned, who owns them? Are they paid, who pays them? Do they have benefits, vacation pay, etc.? What motivates them? Patriotism? Profit? Payment? Revenge? Success? Serving their masters? Are they "working" for free? Do they live in fear and carry hidden weaponry? The Press in the USA that has exposure are owned and operated by the Wealthy elites in each and every community even down to the smallest township. They are in no way independent. The press are but a tool for the wealthy and connected to espouse their propaganda and ruin their opponents under a facade of independence through yellow journalism. True the wealthy and elites often bid for power amongst themselves and the media as a business revenue generating front cover also serve as additional weapons in this struggle.The media in the USA are just another branch of an already crooked and corrupt government. You speak of many "good ol boys" being ruined. Who is behind the ruining? In the American Way: One man's ruining often brings another success and delight. Many does not include all and even if the entirety of corruption was addressed with objectivity that by no means is the whole matter. permalink quote 0 Rad
Enrique 1 July, 2008, 23:47	Transparency International bases its data on statistics asking the common citizen if they know about somebody close who has profited from corruption. Even if sometimes corruption doesn´t increase costs if the company which got a public contract has as good skills as the other ones, many times the consequence is inefficiency and waste of national resources, and that means the taxpayer ends paying more taxes. That´s why it is important for the taxpayer, for the citizen, to keep corruption under some limits. It will not disappear as it has not been wiped out from Western Europe or America (just look at Enron with the billions of USD that it did cost.) permalink quote 0 Enrique
Glenn 14 July, 2008, 20:25	Corruption has grown so widespread and sophisticated that it threatens to undermine the very fabric of society. In some countries almost nothing gets done unless a palm is greased. A bribe to the right person will enable one to pass an exam, get a driver’s license, land a contract, or win a lawsuit. Why do people choose to be corrupt rather than honest? For some, being corrupt may be the easiest way—or indeed the only way—to get what they want. At times, a bribe may provide a convenient means of avoiding punishment. Many who observe that politicians, policemen, and judges seem to ignore corruption or even practice it themselves merely follow their example. As corruption snowballs, it becomes more acceptable until it is finally a way of life. People with pitifully low wages come to feel that they have no option. They have to demand bribes if they want to make a decent living. And when those who extort bribes or pay them to gain an unfair advantage go unpunished, few are prepared to swim against the tide. “Because sentence against a bad work has not been executed speedily, that is why the heart of the sons of men has become fully set in them to do bad,” observed King Solomon.—Ecclesiastes 8:11. Two powerful forces keep stoking the fires of corruption: selfishness and greed. Because of selfishness, corrupt people turn a blind eye to the suffering that their corruption inflicts on others, and they justify bribery simply because they benefit from it. The more material benefits they amass, the greedier those practicers of corruption become. “A mere lover of silver will not be satisfied with silver,” observed Solomon, “neither any lover of wealth with income.” (Ecclesiastes 5:10) Granted, greed may be good for making money, but it invariably winks at corruption and illegality. Another factor that should not be overlooked is the role of the invisible ruler of this world, whom the Bible identifies as Satan the Devil. (1 John 5:19; Revelation 12:9) Satan actively promotes corruption. The biggest bribe on record was the one Satan offered to Christ. ‘I will give you all the kingdoms of the world if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.’—Matthew 4:8, 9. Jesus, however, was incorruptible, and he taught his followers to behave in a similar way. Could Christ’s teachings be an effective tool for fighting corruption today? permalink quote 0 Glenn
David 2 August, 2008, 09:55	Other than home grown corruption, which is so evident particularly in the West, the CIA have a very strong part to play in encouraging corruption in foreign lands, particularly in Russia. Perhaps there is this possibility in the sinking of Kursk and other major Russian tragedies. The CIA have a lot to answer for permalink quote 0 David
Enrique 5 August, 2008, 09:48	Corruption, bribery can be understood when bureacracy is so slow that investment is at risk. In that ocassion, a bribe is a good investment because a company cannot wait for too many months or years (when conditions have changed) to start building a factory. So in this ocassion if bribing a bureacrat accelerates the investment that can be justified. permalink quote 0 Enrique
David 30 August, 2008, 15:01	One does not have to concern themselves with corruption in Russia. The real corrupted, where we have a corrupt society, is in the West, particularly the USA. One has to look at current events in Georgia to find the real answers. permalink quote 0 David
Democracy Sceptic 3 September, 2008, 20:08	David, by your previous posts I have reason to believe that you are resident in the United Kingdom. You are so scathing about England (but I assume you mean the UK)and the west in general, that I fail to understand why you don't go and live in Russia as you seem to percieve it as pure perfection! Your doing so might faciltate the finding of another space for one of the many Russian ladies desperate to come to England via an internet romance, currently being refused entry. permalink quote 0 Democracy Sceptic
Paul 4 September, 2008, 11:47	Hello Russia, I love your country 40 yr,when you were communist regime,use to see what western world was doing,I'm not communist,but love your culture,and your people,almost all my life.any way I know you just come out of Communism,and then you had funny drunk Yeltsin,and finally come strong smart Putin,thank God 8 years later you start to let your voice world to hear you,proud of this nation in such a short time rich so high so fast. other smart move Putin did,He brought close friend Medvediev ,and now west real looking what they can do stop,this powerful nation to grow!!any way while Russia,has to do allot thing to strait,this old communist brains, I went last month to Chelyabinsk,our plain stop Ekaterinburg,airport not one human been has smiley face to welcome people, out of airport what I see first!!100 yr old buses,shame on you are Russia,most fast growing country in the world economically,they didn't invite you 7 G,country because Putin has blue eye!!stop living one state country,you have other state to watch,not only Moscow,couple streets!! I know it's not easy 2 people to strait all country very short time, later on they drive me to Chelyabinsk,growing state,bank is jock,i try to invest and buy flat,go to bank change my Euro,and dollar to rubble,bank tail er touch the money and she said "this is old dollar,we will cut 10% of" first I thought she's kitting me,but she was not,went to manager she said that's rule I'm sorry I can't do anything!!notary other funny thing to tell,he took thousand of rubble ,not tell me the truth,other shock, what the hell it's going on in main street of city Chelyabinsk ,take that corrupt,young mayor Yuri, already to day is late you spost to take him out yesterday,2 meter growing grass!!in main street of Chelyabinsk? frond of the buildings!!how about main entrants of the buildings? what a mass,smell,gentleman this people are Russian's,not Pic's,we live 21 century, please maintain your buildings,have building association,let the owner of the flat's,pay some monthly payments for people fix elevator ,paint in and out of buildings,are you f,kitting me,21 century,dirty,and mayor wash the street middle of busy traffic? to show how hard he's working for he's people,he's the most crook mayor i thing,wake up,Moscow sky can't govern Chelyabinsk? are you building modern communism? come on!! get real let people fine Governor from city they live ,and understand not young reach Mafia!! look at he's face,he's except governor look everything else,some doctor make very little money 500 dollar a month,all those young people out of work or very little money they fork for,no future,that's why every body who i so they drunk ,please gentlemen get real,your bank not give penny to people to open business,you have to build middle class,not billioners,don't do what you Char did it, any way I love your country,and real friend tell some time truth, and some time truth hurts,tell that crook mayor of Chelyabinsk,to live 1 month those apartment buildings!!I like to see? Good luck and thank you for giving me this opportunity to be part of this great nation,and country I love Sincerely, Paul Kassabian permalink quote 0 Paul
Fred 4 September, 2008, 20:18	Russia is a corrupt place. Lots of problems with govt corruption & organized crime. When they went Capitalist the pupil learned TOO well from the master. America, land of Al Capone, Lucky Luchiano, John Gotti, Jimmy Hoffa (Still Missing)Of course Organizing crime does still allow individual freedoms exercised by John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, & billy the Kid, Jessie James, & earler men like Jean Lafitte, (An American Pirate & Privateer) Yep Crime goes back a ways in teh US. These days quiet Ganster types have replaced the Flashier Al cCpones. The sensationalist press is filled with more Religious Americans who have found god, men like Charlie Manson, Jim Jones, & David Koresh. Come to think about it, the Capone days were in some respoects the NICER times as At least Al Capone did celebrate Valentines day, not pick his victims randomly the way that Charlie Manson did. permalink quote 0 Fred
Same 6 September, 2008, 11:20	The theme of corruption is very sensible for our country.I guess we must take the finland's experience where further career practically is impossible for those who has broken the law just for once permalink quote 0 Same

Strewf 11 May, 2008, 18:09

No, No, No! Corruption has no boundary, has no country either it is human greed its everywhere, for an inexplicable reason people try and justify it, there is no justification it is what the 21st Century is all about, everyone for himself! From the small company to the big cooperations and yes governments too, but then its all human and nothing less than humans trying to laud it over another human, shame because if we are as some stupid persons seem to think that we come from chimps, how come they do not get influenced with corruption and yet we being a descendant and supposed to be more intelegent are less so, and yet more prone to corruption!

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dan 31 May, 2008, 08:40

To obtain a visa for most countries in the world only takes a few days regardless of who you are.To get a visa for Russia takes 16 working days but if you pay more to the Russian embassy they will process your visa much quicker depending onhow much you are prepared to pay.$75 for 16 days rising to about $400 for one day.Is this official corruption?

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Rad 3 June, 2008, 23:23

No, corruption is not Russia's incurable disease. If you want to see corruption in Russia, try to imagine the nightmare of that ever so conniving "Russian exile Tycoon" in London and his unrelenting, bumbling, devious plotting Chess Master friends coming to power through some grand master criminal trickery in Russia, and how quickly they would empty the Russian treasury into their pockets and those of their western benefactors, all in the name of democracy and Mother Russia. This threat is one of the greatest dangers Russia has faced and still faces each and every day. For some reason, there are those who wish to portray Russia as the only place in the universe with problems. Even if these "problems" are blown up out of proportion to build this myth against Russia, as if they are free of sin. There is rampant and much more serious corruption in the west, especially the USA. I wish RT would report more about this. From the lowest levels in their American cities and towns, there is an "old boy" atmosphere and structure. This transcends to the very top of their government and courts through every working structure of their "democracy." Every now and then they may prosecute a few high profile cases relating to corruption, but in the USA, corruption is a cornerstone of their democracy and never disappears. There are actually two classes of people in the USA. The insiders who have influence and everyone else. Try to picture a small town in the USA where the people of influence occupy all the positions of power such as Mayor, Police Chief, Judge, Commission heads, Faculty at a School, Media, etc. Collectively they also own or control most of the commercial interests and expensive property. They belong to the same church, clubs and socialize together. Through their friendships they reach a common understanding that they all need to work together in order to maintain their positions of power. They are judge, jury and executioner. Would any of you feel safe and secure living in their American small town? In the USA, many such towns have banded together to become a City and then part of a County. There are many such Counties in a State. 50 or so such States make up the USA. This is what the USA represents. Corruption is intertwined within the very fabric of their lives in these two Americas. The one of corruption you don't see so apparently at first, disguised by the other representing their fantasy land of make believe. Some of you think that in the USA, their wealthy, officials and government workers at all levels have somehow transcended humanity to become baby faced angels. That's not true. Corruption exists and it's very dangerous, especially if you become their victim at any level and have the misfortune to expose or fight for truth. Then you'll learn the true meaning of their American democracy and what it really means.

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Steve 5 June, 2008, 21:15

Rad, it's painfully obvious that you have little or no experience in living in the USA. Your implication that causes people to be excluded from economic and social prosperity is ridiculous. is there corruption in America? of course there is. There is corruption all over the world, because we are human. Unlike many other nations, corruption in America.at ever level.is held in check by the press. The American press answers to no one, and will gladly report corrupt practices by mayors, Govenors, Senators, Business Leaders, etc. many of the "good ol boys" have had their careers ruined by a press expose. The surest way to keep corruption to a minimum while still maintaining freedom is an impartial and independent press.

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sunnymarky 6 June, 2008, 07:57

How interesting on a thread "Corruption":Russias Incurable Disease" started by RT because they know its a disease, posters want to talk about other countries in particular USA and UK. Some people seem in denial , blinkered , blind or perhaps have no idea how much of a disease it is . Less than 20 years since the fall of the Soviet Union all evidence shows that much of the same corrupt practices and more because of the wealth created and lack of accountablity and controls.

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David 18 June, 2008, 17:40

Dan, re. the visa situation. Goodness knows what problems you have experienced in getting a Russian Visa and the cost involved, and from which Embassy, but I can get my Visa through normal channels and nominal cost within 7-10 days (including weekend). I have never experienced a problem with the Russian authorities. The Russian costs are quite reasonable. Of course, if you wish for a Visa to be processed in 1 day you are to pay more. This I, think, is quite acceptable and not corruption. But to use your example how about examining England's costing structure re. Visa issues, the processes involved, the costs involved re. Entry Visa's - these costs are out of reach for a lot of people - is this not corruption based on what you have said? Where you have corruption in Russia is quite open and one knows of its existence. The problem lies in the West where corruption is so rife, particularly in Gvt. circles. One cannot deny it and the matter is brushed under the carpet. It is time that the West woke up - one has to look at the so called oil crisis. Raising the price, unnessessary so, is this not corruption? Raising the price of fuel, in England, 1p-2p each week, is this not corruption? One can go on for many hours giving simple examples of how corrupt the West is. I am giving credit where credit is due, the Russian authorities at the London Embassy have always done me good and have no issue.

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Rad 30 June, 2008, 21:01

Response to writings by Steve on June 6, 2008, 01:15 Steve, it's painfully obvious that you've made the wrong conclusion about my experiences since you are gravely wrong. Continuing in your mistaken beliefs, you speak as if the American Press is a "Holier than Thou" service of the anointed one. This is in no way the case as you would have us believe. Granted that they are regulated by the US Government and can have their license to operate revoked or suffer other consequences. But just who are these people you call the Press? Anointed ones? Are they owned, who owns them? Are they paid, who pays them? Do they have benefits, vacation pay, etc.? What motivates them? Patriotism? Profit? Payment? Revenge? Success? Serving their masters? Are they "working" for free? Do they live in fear and carry hidden weaponry? The Press in the USA that has exposure are owned and operated by the Wealthy elites in each and every community even down to the smallest township. They are in no way independent. The press are but a tool for the wealthy and connected to espouse their propaganda and ruin their opponents under a facade of independence through yellow journalism. True the wealthy and elites often bid for power amongst themselves and the media as a business revenue generating front cover also serve as additional weapons in this struggle.The media in the USA are just another branch of an already crooked and corrupt government. You speak of many "good ol boys" being ruined. Who is behind the ruining? In the American Way: One man's ruining often brings another success and delight. Many does not include all and even if the entirety of corruption was addressed with objectivity that by no means is the whole matter.

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Enrique 1 July, 2008, 23:47

Transparency International bases its data on statistics asking the common citizen if they know about somebody close who has profited from corruption. Even if sometimes corruption doesn´t increase costs if the company which got a public contract has as good skills as the other ones, many times the consequence is inefficiency and waste of national resources, and that means the taxpayer ends paying more taxes. That´s why it is important for the taxpayer, for the citizen, to keep corruption under some limits. It will not disappear as it has not been wiped out from Western Europe or America (just look at Enron with the billions of USD that it did cost.)

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Glenn 14 July, 2008, 20:25

Corruption has grown so widespread and sophisticated that it threatens to undermine the very fabric of society. In some countries almost nothing gets done unless a palm is greased. A bribe to the right person will enable one to pass an exam, get a driver’s license, land a contract, or win a lawsuit. Why do people choose to be corrupt rather than honest? For some, being corrupt may be the easiest way—or indeed the only way—to get what they want. At times, a bribe may provide a convenient means of avoiding punishment. Many who observe that politicians, policemen, and judges seem to ignore corruption or even practice it themselves merely follow their example. As corruption snowballs, it becomes more acceptable until it is finally a way of life. People with pitifully low wages come to feel that they have no option. They have to demand bribes if they want to make a decent living. And when those who extort bribes or pay them to gain an unfair advantage go unpunished, few are prepared to swim against the tide. “Because sentence against a bad work has not been executed speedily, that is why the heart of the sons of men has become fully set in them to do bad,” observed King Solomon.—Ecclesiastes 8:11. Two powerful forces keep stoking the fires of corruption: selfishness and greed. Because of selfishness, corrupt people turn a blind eye to the suffering that their corruption inflicts on others, and they justify bribery simply because they benefit from it. The more material benefits they amass, the greedier those practicers of corruption become. “A mere lover of silver will not be satisfied with silver,” observed Solomon, “neither any lover of wealth with income.” (Ecclesiastes 5:10) Granted, greed may be good for making money, but it invariably winks at corruption and illegality. Another factor that should not be overlooked is the role of the invisible ruler of this world, whom the Bible identifies as Satan the Devil. (1 John 5:19; Revelation 12:9) Satan actively promotes corruption. The biggest bribe on record was the one Satan offered to Christ. ‘I will give you all the kingdoms of the world if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.’—Matthew 4:8, 9. Jesus, however, was incorruptible, and he taught his followers to behave in a similar way. Could Christ’s teachings be an effective tool for fighting corruption today?

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David 2 August, 2008, 09:55

Other than home grown corruption, which is so evident particularly in the West, the CIA have a very strong part to play in encouraging corruption in foreign lands, particularly in Russia. Perhaps there is this possibility in the sinking of Kursk and other major Russian tragedies. The CIA have a lot to answer for

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Enrique 5 August, 2008, 09:48

Corruption, bribery can be understood when bureacracy is so slow that investment is at risk. In that ocassion, a bribe is a good investment because a company cannot wait for too many months or years (when conditions have changed) to start building a factory. So in this ocassion if bribing a bureacrat accelerates the investment that can be justified.

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David 30 August, 2008, 15:01

One does not have to concern themselves with corruption in Russia. The real corrupted, where we have a corrupt society, is in the West, particularly the USA. One has to look at current events in Georgia to find the real answers.

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Democracy Sceptic 3 September, 2008, 20:08

David, by your previous posts I have reason to believe that you are resident in the United Kingdom. You are so scathing about England (but I assume you mean the UK)and the west in general, that I fail to understand why you don't go and live in Russia as you seem to percieve it as pure perfection! Your doing so might faciltate the finding of another space for one of the many Russian ladies desperate to come to England via an internet romance, currently being refused entry.

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Paul 4 September, 2008, 11:47

Hello Russia, I love your country 40 yr,when you were communist regime,use to see what western world was doing,I'm not communist,but love your culture,and your people,almost all my life.any way I know you just come out of Communism,and then you had funny drunk Yeltsin,and finally come strong smart Putin,thank God 8 years later you start to let your voice world to hear you,proud of this nation in such a short time rich so high so fast. other smart move Putin did,He brought close friend Medvediev ,and now west real looking what they can do stop,this powerful nation to grow!!any way while Russia,has to do allot thing to strait,this old communist brains, I went last month to Chelyabinsk,our plain stop Ekaterinburg,airport not one human been has smiley face to welcome people, out of airport what I see first!!100 yr old buses,shame on you are Russia,most fast growing country in the world economically,they didn't invite you 7 G,country because Putin has blue eye!!stop living one state country,you have other state to watch,not only Moscow,couple streets!! I know it's not easy 2 people to strait all country very short time, later on they drive me to Chelyabinsk,growing state,bank is jock,i try to invest and buy flat,go to bank change my Euro,and dollar to rubble,bank tail er touch the money and she said "this is old dollar,we will cut 10% of" first I thought she's kitting me,but she was not,went to manager she said that's rule I'm sorry I can't do anything!!notary other funny thing to tell,he took thousand of rubble ,not tell me the truth,other shock, what the hell it's going on in main street of city Chelyabinsk ,take that corrupt,young mayor Yuri, already to day is late you spost to take him out yesterday,2 meter growing grass!!in main street of Chelyabinsk? frond of the buildings!!how about main entrants of the buildings? what a mass,smell,gentleman this people are Russian's,not Pic's,we live 21 century, please maintain your buildings,have building association,let the owner of the flat's,pay some monthly payments for people fix elevator ,paint in and out of buildings,are you f,kitting me,21 century,dirty,and mayor wash the street middle of busy traffic? to show how hard he's working for he's people,he's the most crook mayor i thing,wake up,Moscow sky can't govern Chelyabinsk? are you building modern communism? come on!! get real let people fine Governor from city they live ,and understand not young reach Mafia!! look at he's face,he's except governor look everything else,some doctor make very little money 500 dollar a month,all those young people out of work or very little money they fork for,no future,that's why every body who i so they drunk ,please gentlemen get real,your bank not give penny to people to open business,you have to build middle class,not billioners,don't do what you Char did it, any way I love your country,and real friend tell some time truth, and some time truth hurts,tell that crook mayor of Chelyabinsk,to live 1 month those apartment buildings!!I like to see? Good luck and thank you for giving me this opportunity to be part of this great nation,and country I love Sincerely, Paul Kassabian

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Fred 4 September, 2008, 20:18

Russia is a corrupt place. Lots of problems with govt corruption & organized crime. When they went Capitalist the pupil learned TOO well from the master. America, land of Al Capone, Lucky Luchiano, John Gotti, Jimmy Hoffa (Still Missing)Of course Organizing crime does still allow individual freedoms exercised by John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, & billy the Kid, Jessie James, & earler men like Jean Lafitte, (An American Pirate & Privateer) Yep Crime goes back a ways in teh US. These days quiet Ganster types have replaced the Flashier Al cCpones. The sensationalist press is filled with more Religious Americans who have found god, men like Charlie Manson, Jim Jones, & David Koresh. Come to think about it, the Capone days were in some respoects the NICER times as At least Al Capone did celebrate Valentines day, not pick his victims randomly the way that Charlie Manson did.

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Same 6 September, 2008, 11:20

The theme of corruption is very sensible for our country.I guess we must take the finland's experience where further career practically is impossible for those who has broken the law just for once

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