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Robert 30 June, 2008, 09:19 Re: MihalMihalich June 28, 2008, 23:39 It is very interesting that you choose to challenge the part of my argument that deals with Putin’s role in the economic revival of Russia rather than discuss the deeds and actions of Russia in the world today. I am not trying to belittle his role nor am I trying to nullify his actions. What I said about him suggests that he was (and still is ) a competent leader, which is far more than can be said of most world leaders, especially in the western world. In contrast to your suggestions I find it ridiculous and unbelievable that a country that is as well endowed as Russia could have reached a situation as desperate as that seen inn the 90’s. It was a perversion and indeed a travesty that the most endowed country in the world could find itself in a situation of famine and free-fall. I wholly sympathize with the sentiments of Russians today when condemning that dark era and I can assure you that the experience of my own country was no different during this time. My problem with what is going on is that the wrong lessons have been learnt. To most Russians the memory of that era has come to discredit the idea of liberal democracy and liberal political values. Russia found itself in chaos during the 1990s’ because of massive corruption, inadequate economic policies and an economy that was not suited to modern free capitalism. Over and above this there were massive institutional weaknesses with regard to law enforcement and mechanisms of economic stability such as the treasury and the central bank. Institutions are the most important factors in determining prosperity of a nation, and they are critical with respect to attracting FDI. Now let us consider what has happened since: - Putin came to power and he used some familiar but effective Soviet style techniques to bring about a sense of order. This new order was rather indiscriminant in that it rightfully hit out against the some of the “famine profiteers” but at the same time it rather bluntly hit out against dissent. This mechanism instilled enough caution in all participating agents such that a new slightly perverted sense of discipline would prevail. - The sheer fact that he ended the chaos stopped the freefall and many investors (domestic & foreign) had greater confidence in a country that seemed to be getting its house in order. - This new confidence allowed Russia to exploit some of its traditional strengths, such as its exceptionally well trained and educated work force and of course a new infrastructure started to be developed which allowed the natural resources of Russia to be exploited ( take a bow BP, Shell et al) - Putin also originally came across as being western friendly and he deceived many in this regard. At the beginning of this decade he was being hailed as “pro-western” and this inspired confidence on the part of many western investors. - From a trend perspective, the most important catalyst in Russia’s revival had to do with the post 2000 boom in the developing world. In the pre-credit crunch era trillions of (borrowed) dollars flowed from the western world into developing markets in order to take advantage of a cheap and efficient workforce, massive untapped markets and a world of unexploited opportunity. The saturation of western markets played a key role in this occurrence. - The subsequence economic boom that occurred in the developing world (India, China etc) caused a boom in demand for resources and naturally Russia was well placed to capitalize on this too. Indeed Russia would have boomed even without oil and gas but this still entails a stroke of luck in that there was a favorable economic attitude towards the developing world and Russia. - In the post credit crunch world Russia is able to take advantage of the secondary, resource, boom to get even richer and its leadership deserves due praise for not squandering this great wealth. End of praise. Often it is useful to combine many sources with a good deal of common sense when making an argument. Such an argument is never wholly accurate but the better ones do give a reasonable approximation of reality. In contrast to your point, raw statistics can hide truths since they have to be examined with the right framework in order to be correctly understood. I also heavily doubt that your statistics regarding Oil and Gas profits, economic figures form across eastern Europe are notoriously unreliable and somewhat engineered. What is glaringly wrong with your figures is that they go against accepted logic inside and outside of Russia in that the country is far too reliant on the natural resource industry. Nevertheless, your final point on invalidity of my entire argument….well I will not try to defend myself against this one because the invalidity of your “domino” theory is self-evident. Based on your logic people are either wholly right or wholly wrong, wholly good or wholly bad and this idea even goes against the “multi-polar” Russian foreign policy promoted endlessly in this forum.
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Regular_John 30 June, 2008, 11:44 Mr Lavelle regarding your segment on the soaring cost of energy. The demand for oil is currently outstripping production at the moment the world consumes 82.5 million barrels of oil every day. World production is 81.7 the main cause is a lack of refineries due to the low price of oil a few years ago not enough investment was made. The oil is available but can’t be refined quickly enough. So when you hear announcements from OPEC that they will increase production by 200 thousand barrels a day this is a smoke screen which will not solve the problem I blame the USA who never signed up to the Kyoto agreement which would have reduced their obsession with oil The USA is one of the world’s largest producers of oil ( 5 million barrels a day) but they consume 200% more than they produce. The USA must put their house in order and begin to reduce their demand for oil steps are being taken in the EU and elsewhere but this will not matter if the Americans do not take the issue more seriously. It is no good trying to blame China or India even when you combine both their requirements together and deduct this from the oil they produce the USA’s oil defercite is still double (China/India oil defercite = 5.4 million barrels a day USA oil defercite = 12.2 million barrels a day). If the USA cut its consumption by 5% this crisis would be over. Another key factor in the soaring cost of energy is stock market speculators who are artificially keeping the price abnormally high. Many hedge fund managers who deal with large pension funds have placed Billions of dollars into the commodities markets mainly in gas and oil as they see it as a way of making a quick profit.
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Robert 30 June, 2008, 12:21 Re: Rad June 30, 2008, 00:48 You do not seem like someone who can be engaged in a discussion and whatever the other person may have said to provoke your response I can only say that your comments are despicable. In your attempted argument you have done nothing but to use the rhetoric of the lowest common denominator. Whilst there are people on this forum page who may wish to have well thought out and sensible discussions you only wish to engage in the language of hate and propaganda. It is because of people like you with warped and distorted perceptions that fundamentalist ideologies come to poison the minds of men. It is because of people like you with such hateful ill-considered ideas that some of mankind’s worst crimes have come to be committed. I could also write a three page essay explaining why your arguments are bull**** but I would be wasting my time because you do not care about logic, though or common sense. Effectively you are a tyrant in waiting, a person who sits on the sidelines hoping that a time will come when humanity will be desperate or delusional enough to listen to him. I can only imagine that Hitler was once like you.
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Regular_John 1 July, 2008, 14:48 Mr Lavelle regarding your report from Chechnya This painted a very pretty picture. That is far from the reality of the situation on the ground. Yes the centre of Grozny looks very nice. It probably only took you 10 minuets to have a stroll round all this progress. The report would have carried more weight if you had visited villages outside the Grozny safe zone. A friend of ours works in admin for the Russian military she works on a base outside Grozny she is flown in by helicopter and then flown out because the country roads are deemed as to dangerous. Probably that’s why you never ventured out. Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia are still tinder boxes ready to ignite at any time. They are about as stable as a 50 year old stick of dynamite. If the Russian money dries up the guns will come out. I feel your report was an exercise in propaganda not serious factually based journalism. (Sorry).
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MihalMihalich 1 July, 2008, 16:26 Robert First you say that a monkey could put the country out to where it stands today, and it has to do with luck & oil, not the work Now you lecture me on use of communist methods in modern Russia. Let me say this again, the information source you use misleads you. embarrassing. Dear Ladies & Gentlemen. Some people have this very impression and I would like to take one minute of your time and express the Other opinion on the subject. After USSR fell apart, Government of the Federation started to use Western blueprints to achieve beautiful dream of western prosperity. Western experience was as follows, ineffective legislative branch was struggling with ineffective bureaucracy of the 3 level minister to clerk system delaying by months and years any important urgent action required from them. Russian banks were turned into exchange bureaus and monetary system collapsed in fact twice annulling live savings of every Russian citizen. I’ll try to keep it short. Western systems have many fundamental flaws that are built into then for reason. And I do not want my country to suffer from Western headaches, and if United States inflates its world’s only exchangeable currency to inflate their $55 trillions of debt and to collapse economy of every nation in the world that uses United States dollars as their bank reserves… meaning every NATO country, every proxy state and collapsing everyone’s FEDERAL BANK Reserves - money that supposed to ensure that your people have government pensions on time for example. Well hey, I don’t judge you for doing that, do not ask me to be a part of it. I would rather have Russians do it THEIR OWN WAY, then repeating western mistakes. But you come here and tell me that Russians are incomplete and almost have to have your problems to measure up to you, to be almost equaled. And I do not think you are that good. In fact your comments as well as your European or American benefits do not do me any damn good at all, because they proven to do more harm then good. I think that you are in over your head on this one because you have no idea what you are talking about. And Google.com search results give you just wrong idea. As for democracy, IMHO Russians did not have it until New Years of 2000. We had monarchy we had dictate of communism, and we only started new journey where President listens to simple people, where government spends ALL THE MONEY to build infrastructure and institutes and even free homes for most poor to make life better for simple people, and rise the standard of living for all the people and not himself. But hey, you do not know or understand what Russia went through or how it is today and you do not know who is Putin and who is Medvedev. And it not productive to discuss a subject with people who can only talk rumors over water cooler. Best Regards.
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Rad 2 July, 2008, 01:08 Response to Robert writings on June 30, 2008, 16:21 Et Al. Re: The Myth of America Robert, Your draped Statue of Liberty is a disguised Beacon of Tyranny and Human Bondage. Do take the time to write your "Voice of Joseph Goebbels America" fictional essay, but do so elsewhere in one of my languages as I am writing in yours. If anyone believes you as the Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, then the amount of resources your fictitious terror state piracy spends on propagandizing the world could be allocated to much needed social programs benefiting your underprivileged, much overlooked and forgotten subjugated subjects. Why then does your shining haunted house city on a hill of graves spend so much on taken out of the deep freeze Cold War propaganda, shouldn't the taste of your artificially flavored Nutra Sweet stale sour grape fruits from the poisonous rotting tree of America's "proof be in the pudding"? In your junkyard junk food junkie American pie, you seem to be under the impression that every four years or so you can white wash away your sins with a new babbling baptized chanting in tongues born again Jimmy Swaggart, and now serving wilted Collared Greens alongside your Big Mac McCain. As if all your countless victims have access to high speed internet and would take the time to condemn your propaganda with mild mannered words over coffee or tea. The only Bostonian Tea Party discussion your crusading piracy of occupation understands is being dragged through the many avenues around the world where you have drenched with our blood and suffering for hundreds of years. You can't expect a world filled with your victims to love you after what you've done and still do.
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Robert 2 July, 2008, 10:02 RE: My Detractors It never ceases to amaze me how each nation on this earth falls prey to the delusion of uniqueness and grandeur. When anyone tries to point out some fairly obvious and mild observations to certain nationalists the response is always very predictable as follows: “Our country is unique” or “Stop infecting our sacred land with your western values” or, my favorite, “You should not expect your ideas to apply here” My dear friends, once again I repeat the fact that there as no such thing as a Russian truth versus a Western truth. There is no such thing as a “relative reality” and your suffering and the suffering of your country in the past is not unique nor was it confined to your borders. The only difference between you and the rest of the world is that you now think that all of this somehow entitles you to behave badly, you think that all of this entitles you to resurrect your destructive ambitions. When hearing these comments of uniqueness I do gain a glimpse of your consciousness and indeed of your psyche. You regard yourselves as untouchable, as perfect and as being beyond reproach. Naturally any narcissist suffers greatly when he regards his dignity and his person as being shamed and humiliated. The manifestation of similar delusions of grandeur are manifesting themselves in Zimbabwe right now ….continued another time. There are very specific historic laws of gravity that exist and these laws have governed the rise and fall of nations since the beginning of time. Empires, republics and countries far greater than yours have risen and fallen by this very sword and for you to somehow claim that you are special is the greatest expression of arrogance. No-one is asking you to become western or to embrace the “Pax Americana”. Anyone who knows anything about economics should criticize the western world for the economic and energy policies it has followed for the last decade and indeed it has also broken these rules but this does not justify your attitude nor does it vindicate your incorrect opinions. The free market does not dictate that one should incur debt or spend irresponsibly, nor does not prescribe government corruption or cronyism. Your difficulties were a direct result of a lack of economic reforms and should not be blamed on the west. It was simply something that was bound to happen as it takes time for any economy to adjust. Oh, and what a miracle that Russia, the Ukraine, Belarus, Bulgaria, Romania and many others all seem to have recovered at the same time! Wow, it must be a result of a really gifted generation of leaders! My point is that you guys are mostly unable to respond with a clear thought or proposition. Instead you resort to vague references designed to confuse the argument. Liberty is not about eating Big Mac’s nor is it about the 4th of July or any such image that you choose to conjure up, instead it is about the individual and the right of that individual to pursue is own happiness and make his own free choices. Liberty is being free to make your own choices and being free to live with the consequences of those choices and mostly it is about abundance and access to that abundance through hard work. Secondly, I am not an American nor am I western and I certainly am a critic of the west with respect to many things but nevertheless this simply illustrates how radical your ideas are and how profoundly biased you are with respect your interpretation. Whilst you claim that you simply want everyone to leave you alone, you do not seem to be prepared to reciprocate this. You cannot tolerate any sort of criticism which you typically seem prepared to counter with insults, emotive language and rhetoric. Usually after a great disaster or defeat a nation reforms itself and goes forth with a new attitude as opposed to the old discredited one. Unfortunately there are far too many Russians who are unreformed and who still live in denial with respect to why they lost the Cold War and the trauma that they inflicted on others. PS Rad: Your opinions of the world and of everything are very very very troubled and I suggest you sort out what is really tormenting you rather that spitting out your venom on everyone and everything. This is genuinely a message of concern.
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Sevodnya_Net 2 July, 2008, 10:37 Regular_John wrote: "Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia are still tinder boxes ready to ignite at any time. They are about as stable as a 50 year old stick of dynamite. If the Russian money dries up the guns will come out." Further to that, I would add that the policy of "Chechenisation" in Chechnya has to date been a huge gamble that has paid off for Russia. A gamble because on the one hand it has placed the country in the hands of a former rebel with control over a large militia, but equally because it has seemed to demonstrate that, yet again, progress can only be made through terror and repression, albeit, as was charmingly pointed out in the programme, selective Chechen terror and repression as opposed to the indiscriminate Russian variety(!) An approach which drew in the moderate rebel leaders such as Maskhadov and Zakaev, rather than systematically assassinated or attempted to silence them, would have been longer and messier but would have surely paid greater dividends in the long run. Instead, predictably, we how have a rebel grouping dedicated to North Causasus Emirate, an ideal that can never become realised but which has the potential emotionally at least, to unite fundamentalists and disaffected peoples in the wider North Causasus, thus spreading the conflict. It was noticeable that Peter's programme did not contain any interviews with actual Chechens other than Kadyrov and Timur Aliev and as John notes did not appear to venture outside the centre of Groznyy. The problem with any Russian mainstream media programme on Chechnya is that it does look awfully like propaganda: this may be an unfair conclusion, but that IS what it looks like!!
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MihalMihalich 3 July, 2008, 08:05 Dear Ladies & Gentlemen Look Robert, I keep telling you that you have incorrect understanding of the subject its nothing personal. I’m not shutting you up, but what you do is make 2+2 to be a 2-2, changing result to make it feat your personal poo. I am judging western systems on Russian experience telling you Russia ADOPTED Western methods and she went bankrupt because of them, going through hell of 1930 USA repeating western mistakes. Same fate awaits those who use the systems because they’re flawed and west does nothing to change them, letting it happen. You do not know about oil or distribution market, while its is center of all scandals, cuz if you did you would understand dilemma of European Union and Russia energy deal – the deal that EU pushes would allow all EU to freely access Russian resources and at same time keeping European distribution monopoly of the energy sector where most energy money is made. You would understand that Europe has NO MEANS TO PRESSURE RUSSIA… AT ALL, add to that incredible vulnerability in front of United States that controls MOST of the OIL in this world, thus they resort to really lame criticism and absurd vague arguments about lack democracy & human rights. And then play hard to get, like our relationship should be improved. They have no problems or demands to Russians because WEST DOES NOT CARE/give a damn about single Russian person, and your ignorance only proves it. EU faced the fact the no longer get freebies and have to pay damn taxes, they no longer have access to any cheap raw resources. By rising taxes on raw resources export Russia made EU money come to her, to build & work & pay taxes on her territory, putting many EU factories out of business. Now the business is in Russia, whether you like it or not, you will have to accept it and understand its not about attitude or ambitions, IT IS ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY. And if you think someone owes you something because you are so freaking evolved then I highly recommend you a reality check. Your remarks mean nothing because they a purely based on press headlines, they are unoriginal and boring. And I have no stomach for your little out of context games & Goodbye. Best regards.
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Rad 5 July, 2008, 07:31 Response to Robert Re: The Myth of America You address people as "friends" as if you're addressing Romans with Marc Anthony "man of the people" lyrics taken out of your Shakespearean Julius Caesar play book of mythical Western Culture. People such as yourself will never end your failing criticisms against Russia and other places in the world no matter how many successes and achievements stare you back in your squinting Peabody eyes, until your dream team of chess master western stooges are installed everywhere through hook or crook. As for your supposed criticisms of "the West," let me only say that in their deception, when the Anglo Americans wanted to invade Normandy, they bombed the Pas de Calais much more. Your criticisms of the West are but the bombing of the Pas de Calais. You continue to serve your super sized extra value junk food menu complete with hook, line and sinker. You're trying to convert peoples in the world to your flawed mental state ideal of an Anglo American Zionist and his ideology of myths, mystic market forces and chicanery. With you as their bogus Moses of Zion leading them to a barren Promised fallacy land of make believe landscape fertile with false promises, following in the bloody dirt tracks of the ill conceived Western ideal. Playing numbers games and parroting western chirping concepts of discourse as the end course never addresses the illegitimacy of the right to exist. Your mathematics are based on flawed formulas resting on the rotting foundation of death and destruction. Your statements are just smoke screen mists of perfume covering the horrendous stench of Anglo Zionist democracy trying to rise above the already mentioned hill of graves of its continuing tormented legacy. Come now, don't be vague, what does this word you hide behind "the West" and its model for humanity truly mean in your so called clear thought or proposition? Colonialism? Imperialism? Zionism? The Great Satan? Enemies of Humanity? What do you propose, a western puppet client slave state everywhere? Who is the West and what have they done to humanity with their brand of cookie cutter guillotine democracy? Is this the ideal you long for in Russia and the world as a self proclaimed mystic witch doctor visionary? Do you think people are blind, to be duped into the shameful legacy of Americanism and the trickery of hidden insider market forces as a true path to salvation? It is very much about the 4th of July, Thanksgiving, Big Mac's and every other related distressing point raised about your ideal. When you're munching away on your hot dog of American minced meat pie, contemplate how did these come to be, what do they really represent, what are the facts behind them? Through the miracle of the Constitutional slave trade, at whose expense and on whose desecrated graves did all this failed fantasy land come from and rest upon rising to the heights of a failed state of shame? The same concocted Constitution of freedoms and its frivolous flag of fraud from a pilgrimage of invading psychotic, philandering and pillaging pilgrims who have purged all opposition with holocaust and weapons of mass destruction. To archive a democratic majority over native civilizations for their gerrymandered one party state of democracy voting district rigged elections, and still remain in power through a succession of Fuehrers from George Washington to George Bush all "[resurrecting] destructive ambitions." None of this catches your eye or scorn, but playing your western bandwagon of propaganda you finally mention Zimbabwe and its War hero President who has shamed the West repeatedly resisting intervention. Address this disingenuous concern of yours within Zimbabwe, that you wish to resurrect Rhodesia and the rule of its Smithsonian "White Pride" Selous Scouts. Laugh at your western heroes for their inability and weakness to reverse the tide of war for so long with all their might. So where's the beef in your Big Mac? It's a 100% Kosher American pure beef of bull. A minced meat of slaughtered civilizations and peoples. You are very much in denial if not dangerous to be promoting such extremist dogma as an ideal role model. Anglo American democracy is a mirage for the thirsty, with promises of endless flowing springs, from dust, carnage and destruction in your hands that only spout blood. Rights of the individual? Where, in the Anglo Zionist American West? You're lost in the fantasies of your own tormented mind. The West are the tantalizing sirens leading you to the doom of crashing into the cliffs. Freedom is imagined, abstract and supernatural merged with the absolute enslavement of the physical. You're not an individual but a taxed number of biometric data in a labor colony slave state. The proof is in the pudding taste of your conjured notions are but a poison. In your magic trick of democracy it's all talk without substance. The freedoms are the illusions of mere words immediately taken away with the accompanying text and small print through the corruption of comatose roving wiretaps and secret torture centers. The Big Mac's represent the insider hidden market forces MacDougal Clinton Whitewater land deal schemes robbing investors, Mac sub machine pistols in the hands of CIA assassins and hoodlum gang bangers, McCarthyism and now the Mac-rubbish chanting of McCain. Your hyper inflated purchases, earnings and savings are cataloged, valued, taxed and there is even a death tax for dying. Miss one tax payment according to their record keeping and your dream car and home are subjected to liens and repossessed. Your so called hard work employment dictates mandatory membership in enslaving crime boss due collecting Unions. Earn the scorn of an elitist or connected Anglo Zionist and see what democracy means as a dancing bear in their P.T. Barnum "There's a sucker born every minute"" Circus of America. You're the one tormenting yourself longing the freedom of expression to place a multitude of body piercing's and earrings through your eyebrows as some psychotic display of freedom of thought. You would have to be drugged or beaten into submission with the Abu Ghraib human chain pyramid dog trick indoctrination of persecution to believe any of their freedoms in this most drugged and imprisoned culture in history. Where even its failed leadership of the George Bush and his daughters seek hyper dimensional states of mind through the use of Cocaine to archive the promised grandeur of ghoulish western democracy. What ludicrous failed leadership you adore in your grandiose visions. Their Western democracy is a leech gloating on a host of worldly victims. Only a heartless crony android beast can remain cool an collected through the experience and at the sight of such detestable evil as you're promoting dressed in your smoking jacket with cigar and napoleon brandy in hand as if your fire side chat is awe inspiring. You're a true cultured Anglo American Zionist in mind, body, spirit and soul to promote and dictate such a failed doomsday cult fairy tail, this in itself is your greatest detractor and condemner. You're left holding your idealized debunked US Constitution of empty claims and vanished promises as a coconspirator with only blood on your hands. What's of concern and most troubling are vague seemingly "friendly" people like yourself promoting the fictitious concept of this Western Tyrannical Empire development ideology as a heavenly utopia. As if what we experience, taste and see with our eyes does not suffice to discredit your dementia about these artificially flavored Kosher Anglo American minced meat Shepherd's pies, hot dogs and hamburgers. Your holier than thou overbearing arrogant state of mind in its imagined positions of power and grandeur are most troubling. If you believe the hog wash fluttering from your pale mouth and are presenting this as some dictate or testimonial, this would represent yet another and even more serious cause for concern indicative of your faculties and sense of judgement.
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Robert 6 July, 2008, 23:25 Re: The Last Word The art of spin is essential to defending the indefensible. It sometimes focuses on shifting the parameters of the argument in a subversive effort to prove the other person wrong about something he was not actually referring to and indeed its application is highly visible here. My two discussion partners have used varying means of this subversive “spin”. The smarter one (in my opinion) has taken on my argument from the perspective of details. Any man who can speak about details is judged, by a lay audience, to be the master of his domain. Indeed this can rationally be true. Whereas one participant might make general remarks regarding a topic it is the person with fluent command of the details who has the upper hand and this indeed may justifiably impress any neutral adjudicator. These details can however be used in a slightly naughty way and indeed one of my discussion partners has done just that. I will call him a he because I simply do not know any better but in this case he has not actually addressed my original principle argument at all. I applaud any country that seeks to get its house in order. It is a pleasure to see idealistic politicians cutting through the swathes of red tape etc. It is almost as pleasing to see a strong-willed developing country putting corporations in their place. The exploitation that corporate interests have inflicted on the helpless of this world is outrageous and these problems of corporate or indeed “Western” exploitation is certainly not confined to Russia, as my friend Rad has passionately argued. All of this is fabulous but I get to a point where I start to lose the thread of so-called “logic”. You see whilst I can understand fairness and efficiency and all these warm and fuzzy concepts this does not address my fundamental problem(s) with Russia today. - Russia uses energy as a geopolitical tool for spreading its influence and subverting the ambitions of independently minded nations. - Russia remains unapologetic and unrepentant over its past and more-so it still displays a great degree of chauvinism towards Eastern Europe. - Russia seems to think that it can interfere in the affairs of neighbouring states; it seems to think that it can call for the resignation of neighbouring governments in the Baltics. It also thinks that it should have a say with respect to which if these states should join Nato and the EU and it thinks it is entitled to a veto concerning the presence of US troops in Romania and Bulgaria. - Russia uses its newly rediscovered influence to subvert global security by continuously propping up authoritarian regimes such as those in Zimbabwe and Myanmar. - Russia also continues to help Iran defy the UN I its nuclear programme, which ironically poses a significant threat to Russia and the CIS. - The political system has become viciously authoritarian with journalists being murdered frequently and government criticism being taboo. - Elections have become nothing more than a formality with gross irregularities taking place. I do not doubt the fact that people supported Putin/Medvedev and United Russia but my quarrel is far more fundamental. Even if the populace should wish to vote differently at some stage and usurp the current leadership, this is utterly impossible. There exists no real opposition in the Duma with virtually all of the parties paying lip service to the current president (except for the communists…very ironic) and the laws are firmly skewed in favour of the status quo. Opposition figures are not even allowed register to participate in elections. Russia is no longer a democracy, it is effectively a dictatorship and the Yetsin years do not serve as a justification for the current attitude. - Russia refuses to establish institutions of credibility on the economic front. Whilst you speak of not repeating Western mistakes this is certainly a Russian mistake. Nobody can fancy an economy where the government can simply take away your property and hard work and where the courts are run according to government dictate. - Putin gets too much credit and it is still my view that his “achievements” have a lot to do with luck. Certainly he took worthy initiatives and he was better than most world leaders in this regard but then again it is easy to get your way in a police state, decisions are easily made and implemented in a dictatorship. You cannot expect any seriously minded person to be naïve enough to believe that Russia’s actions all have to do with reform and “fixing” things. Many of Russia;s actions are not justifiable and they cause a great deal of concern, most of these actions have served to suggest that Europe can only be safe and secure as long as Russia is weak. This is an incredibly harsh ferocious statement to make but unfortunately your actions are making it credible, in this case you are asking the other side to make an impossible choice. PS: Rad, I will not argue with you, I battled to read your last post and I could not identify a single coherent thought. You have a fascinating tendency to combine events into a perverse collage that suits your ends. Maybe you should be one of those beaten by Robert Mugabe and his thugs, maybe you should be one of those Eastern Europeans who spent decades in a jail cell for opposing your “revolution”, and maybe you should think a little about the humanity you pretend to defend. Your ideas go beyond being perverse and sick, they are abominable and I only hope that you have an opportunity to live at the hands of your own ideology. Please do not address me again.
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Rad 7 July, 2008, 08:28 Robert, One more thing if I may, you stress how the western model of democracy and its leaders are so successful in their model of development as some mathematical principle. In your calculation, you fail to recognize that the West's numbers have been rigged to conceal how that Big Mac hamburger came to be selling at a near $4 price tag. How many can you afford to eat without a soft drink and French Fry's working on minimum wage after all your other expenses? You'd think with their successful democracy after hundreds of years, the price would be less if not free. A discussion, perhaps for another time. Under their same constitutional democracy, the Anglo democrats have made hay while the sun shined only at the expense of the victimized through a continuous state of war, even civil wars and conquests to fuel their growth and up keep costs. They still live off this same hay stockpile, but even today the apparent "success" of their democracy you cherish is fragile, since something so simple as oil imports from their colonies have the potential to stagnate their economic success and cause distress. Are they too big for their cowboy boots? Recently in the USA wasn't there a rice shortage? People were flocking to shops to buy rice only to find empty shelves, then rationing at increased prices. This is after how many hundred years of democracy under the same constitution? You're idealizing a very vulnerable economy and system and are under the impression it all came to be "successful" overnight through their stated policies of make believe window dressing. What will happen today if all their colonial imports are placed under sanction or lost? What if the territory of their occupied country is significantly reduced forming new nations, some serving as the hot bed of terrorists? How is this system a successful or ethical development strategy for others to follow and replicate in this day and age? What new worlds are left filled with ripe victims, fertile lands and resources to conquer and call your own through the trickery of Anglo American nation building? It's difficult if not impossible for most nations to follow the western leech model of democratic development through the expense of the occupied and conquered. Now days, where can white faced crusaders disguised as social outcasts travel as a pilgrimage to form a small Plymouth Rock bridgehead of invading Pilgrims on a continent of defenseless victims? Then 400-500 years later of committing holocaust against indigenous peoples, even under a supposed constitutional democracy, against the opposition to reduce their numbers in an effort to secure the possibility of victory through democratic majority vote elections. Including expansion through democratic gun boat diplomacy to form an empire of banana and fig tree republics worldwide encompassing the wealth of human cargo, beef, pigs, oil, sugar, opium, cocaine, coffee, tea and other valuable commodities. These days, wearing an openly white faced costume of Christopher Columbus and Crusader Conquistadors following the path of imagined pilgrimages discovering new worlds filled with Golden Cities ripe for conquest as false prophets still continues. Now dressed in their new fashionable clothing of business suits and blue jeans, they represent a deniable pilgrimage of NGO's and business tycoons with their whitewashed bribery contracts of false promises called development. When they encounter too much native opposition or run a muck of the natives being exposed for what they are, having robbed nations of their wealth enriching only the development of western off shore accounts, or otherwise fail to mount a successful coup for better business profiteering terms. Only then do they divest themselves taking their investment scheme game elsewhere. Then democratization and the hidden market forces of the white hand, such as sanctions, oppositions and sabotage work their way to bring the peace keepers of re-colonization to restore the stability of human rights through "fair" elections restoring their banana republic with its rightful leader. Now days they own the country as occupiers in the fine print as creditors, investors, vacationers and intermarried or transplanted crony politicians. When it boils over too hot to handle through proxy and hidden hands, the Anglo gunboats reappear offshore through the mysticism of Western Anglo American democracy to lend a helping white hand.
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MihalMihalich 8 July, 2008, 03:57 Dear Ladies & Gentlemen I thank RT for giving opportunity to an average man to express his opinion and be heard. I personally like and value works of RT they have their own edge in media and even though I don
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MCC 10 July, 2008, 15:04 MCC's answer to Rad, Afer reading your comments, one thing came to my mind, Mr. Khrushchev's famous UN speach in NY, including the shoe banging, but I am not judgmental and I am not an expert on Russian manners either. [By the way, the Khrushchovs, the Suslovs, the Mikojans and thousands of other ex-communist bosses live in the USA - how strange!!! - we kidnapped them and brought them to USA by force, of course]. I really have no idea how to answer your comments, but I have a question - have you been drinking this contaminated Russian vodka AGAIN?? And a statement - do not get over-exited you can get a stroke and we all know the catastrophic state of Russian hospitals - so be reasonable, dear, and relax. Nevertheless I shall try to recapitulate my points which you totally ignored one by one ONCE MORE: 1. You Russians will HAVE eventually to address the goulags and barbarity committed on your own people. It is the unique most barbaric event in the human history. But you, my friend, are defending this horror - if you are a Russian you must have victims in your own family of your glorious communist regime as everybody else in Russia and Europe. So my conclusion is very simple - you deserve this, it was of your own making. You should work on your self respect and dignity as a nation? The fact that you ignore your past won't change it. And, by the way, drop this stupid imperial ambitions - it didn't work and help poors of Russia - that what governments normally do. 2. YES, the whole Western world will invade Russia - we all leave the comfort of our places in America, Australia,UK, France,Italy etc. and move and settle in Siberia, along the Goulags settlements, you know these luxurious housing projects and enjoy the climate - I am just following your sick way of reasoning. Look around you and see how 80 percent of Russians live - pure eighteen century. Moscow and St. Petersburg [sorry Leningrad] with their oligarchs is only the small part of Russia. 3. The reason you should get off of the neck of Baltic states in reminding them their Nazi connection is very simple - Vlasov Army - The huge army of Russians who joined the Nazi and fought along them against Bolshevik Russia. It seems to me that those desperate people who lived in your Communist paradise found the Nazi regime less oppressive than Communist Russia - how pathetic! 4. Now let's conclude - the Russian empire is collapsing in front of our eyes - it will be a long and painful process and you can do NOTHING about it - it is a historic process. So stop bullying your neighbors [courageous Ukraine, magnificent Georgia - one of the first christian kingdoms in the world, and the latest object of your attacks is Czech Republic and Poland - by the way when are you going to attack these two independent, democratic and free European countries??] 5. Let's look at Russia's allies today - Venezuela, North Korea and Iran. You are isolated and so desperate that you are trying to be friendly with your mortal enemy, China - how pathetic. 6. In conclusion, the most tragic thing is that Russia turned its back on democracy and freedom and, unfortunately, it will have tragic consequences for you in the future so Wake up!!! Best Regards, MCC
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DaniYah 10 July, 2008, 16:52 MichalMichalich: It is a cliche to say that "the 'west' took so long to develop democracy, don't compare with the few years that it is taking such and such country to develop its own." This is just a cop-out. "Western", meaning USA and its law breaking partners worldwide, regardless of their government systems (dictators are democratic, as long as they are supporting the CIA war of terrorism), have NOT developed anything close to DEMOCRACY. Free-for-all corruption at the highest levels IS NOT democracy. The fact that you don't have to bribe a policeman in the USA for a speeding ticket at the local level says very little about the extreme violations of human and civil rights that are being violated by these regimes. I pray to the Creator with all my strength, that He will NEVER allow any other country to reach such a level of destructive deception- that is all that it is-- "a whited sepulcher" the most cowardly form of treason against the homeland. It is obvious that this whole bickering is coming to its end, soon a few are going to be left with nothing to say- they'll just have to listen quietly and submissively. Those who defend the truth have NOTHING to be ashamed of, now or later or ever. Re:Re: Last Word Robert, you can bring on whatever formula of persuasion you may like, but I hope that you realize soon enough that you yourself are proof to my argument. USA has no right to demand that Iran cancel its uranium enrichment, because Iran is a signatory of the NPT, which grants signatories that right. Iran has not made any hostile attack to any other nation (get your history book and see.) This whole nonsense about the Iranian menace (the “'ultra-wise' planners of the 21st American Century” has lumped in Russia inextricably, regardless of its position at any time) is based on an USA-evangelical created idea of the fulfillment of the “End times” in which a “third temple” is supposed to be built at Jerusalem (“City of Peace”) on Mount Moriah (where Al-Aqsa is currently located). A brief peek at your bookshelf reveals that the Second Hebrew temple was already built- around 535 BC by the Medo-Persian (Iranian) Emperors Cyrus the Great and Darius the Great after the destruction of the First Temple by the Babylonians. The First Temple was built by King Solomon in 957 BC, the Third Temple was built by the Roman-Judeo King Herod in 20 BC. All these temples have since been demolished. In the last reference to the future of the Holy City Jerusalem in the Bible, there is a another structure that is to be built. HOWEVER, it DOES NOT include another Temple. It only a CITY that is comes down from heaven. NO human hands involved in its construction. So all this about triggering “Armageddon” by laying the cornerstone for the “Third Temple” at Al-Aqsa is a bunch of SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, SPIN, and SPIN. Being that this issue of the Temple is at the center of the world, and integral to every world relationship, why don't you focus on these important facts? Yes, Russia is involved. We just learned that land in Israel (at Jericho) was recently returned to the Russian Federation after almost 100 years. So, when you talk about Russia, you are also talking about Israel, too. Recently, the “G8” announced that they were “going to promise” a certain amount of money "aid" to Africa. But, Africans are not the problem that has to be solved. Just as in Central and South America during the Conquistador years and the Banana Republic years and the Iran-Contra Affair years in which tens of millions and then hundreds of thousands more of innocent Americans were massacred by the CIA and Mossad contractors in connection with the V at Rome, Africa is plagued to this day. The aid that needs to be given is the relief from the constant bombardment of regional destabilizations and pillaging of African's own natural resources. There doesn't need to be “nationalizations” of resources for this to happen, CIA knows that. Nevertheless, it's convenient for them to point to this struggle in Cold War terms of “left” and “right” wing, terminology itself which dates to late 18th Century French Revolution in which parliamentary deputies represented 96% of the French population sat in a certain section of a hall. This speaks to the reality today that the turmoil facing the people is not a result of an animalistic stupidity (lack of willpower, skill, energy, body mass, fair complexion) on the part of the majority but of the malicious intent of a now dwindling minority. So be careful, Robert, how you throw accusations of impropriety.
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Comment 11 July, 2008, 21:06 MCC There were officially 26 million Russians died in WW2, military personnel losses were about the same as German losses about 4+ million. Vlasov Army counted 50.000, all of them came from POW camps where people were burned alive 24/7. So 50.000 out of 26 million that agreed to serve devil with a gun to their head. After war they asked for political asylum in the USA with many others who served Nazis. And if you said it to my face, I would kick your buttocks real hard for all those millions. Second of all, Russians have very peaceful trade relationship with both Czech & Poland I do not understand what are you talking about. In fact Majority of people there do not want ABMs, but their governments disregard choice of their citizens and do not allow people to use their democratic right in the matter. Russia is NOT ally with Venezuela or North Korea or Iran. US had full scale war with North Korea that took millions of lives, they arranged war between Iran & Iraq that bled out two countries for years, they overthrew Venezuela government which then signed deal with American oil companies by which they were keeping 80% of oil profits and entire country was left in poverty. And it kinda explains why they want the only other alternative business partner. And the relations between The countries are business only. Russia is not ally with any country but Kazakhstan. Russia is an important member of a local regional military block that is working ONLY within the state boarders of its members. Also providing very important Nuclear Shield. The block is nothing like United States NATO block slaves that are controlled by United States general as NATO acts outside its boarders attacking other states. You and your “how pathetic” can be explained only by ignorance.
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DaniYah 12 July, 2008, 20:42 MCC asks others to "wake up" while he lumbers in to deep sleep. USA is declining, falling into the own pit it made for others. At the same time it warns others of "bad consequences" of making their own sovereign decisions. Just keep stepping, we'll watch and learn soon enough!
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fred 15 July, 2008, 15:25 what do i see ?? the US has a list with 400.000 names of "terrorists" ?? you got it wrong !!! they have the list of the 400.000 who are NOT terrorists , as ALL others are quite suspected , unless they are suspicious or something like . ;-)) the foolishness of some human will never stop to amaze me !!!
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Rad 17 July, 2008, 08:04 Response to insults and ravings made by MCC on July 10, 2008, 19:04 MCC, You should consider this to be a very casual response, because you are not worth it. Your absurd point #1. You are fixated with the USSR. I hate to be the one to tell you this again, but the USSR does not exist. Get that through your warped mind. If you have any complaints for the USSR, you'd be better off going to see one of your many Western Mystics at a Palm reader shop, better still call their toll free psychic hotline numbers. Perhaps with a little money, that is if you can take your money out of the failing bank, get in touch with the past through a Houdini Séance and address your concerns while slurping down your mad cow Matzah balls. I can't make it any simpler for you. Russia (RF) was born around 1991. Any complaints you have should be restricted from 1991 to the present. Putin and Medvedev are youthful leaders for a youthful country that has given birth to success. Communism is not the ideology of Russia. Flag is different. Yet England has the same old tattered blood stained flag and old bag Queen with its Magna Carta. While its America has the same founding Constitution of Democracy with succeeding occupational Presidents (Fuehrer). Until all of this goes into the dust bin, I shall go back hundreds of years with my criticisms, but I don't need to because the present is just as worse. If you wish to include matters prior to 1991 concerning Russia, then I'll also do the same as it pertains to what madness existed in the West before the even greater psychosis of the so called Western Democracy with its mystic Magna Carta and concocted Constitution of chicanery. You dwell on about gulags of a Communism long gone. To the Anglo Americans, the whole world has been and still is their slave labor torture center and concentration camp of death. The only true freedom the victims of Western democracy archive are escaping into the heavens from the chimneys of its Concentration Camp Crematoriums. Do you know what it means to be tortured by the democracy of the United States of America in your own homeland? What about being tortured within the United States of America itself? This same United States and its false faced Anglo American allies still stand today unchanged. People like you, its advocates, are just as responsible. Your ridiculous point #2. Invasion of Russia? Only madmen go to war with Russia. Haven't you learned by now that Russia cannot be conquered? "Comfort in America, Australia,UK, France, Italy, etc."? Well let me see, America and Australia are occupied lands. Your western democracy heroes ethnically cleansed the entire continents to make it the imagined delusion of the fairy tale you appear to see. Let me guess, you are one of the happy fairy's? Go take an unarmed walk into the inner city neighborhoods, ghettos and housing projects to get a reality check of your compatriots. What will happen to you? France, Italy and UK have murdered and looted humanity so much, that with the proceeds they've managed to build some crumbling infrastructure at the expense of others. Even still, if you travel out of your police state city, you'll see how developed it is. It never occurred to you where the land and resources came from to build your imagined realm and what keeps this going. Just what does Yankee ingenuity really mean? Having blood on your hands and under your feet, thoroughly soaked in blood and stench? It is my personal belief that if you come into the West to sincerely make a life for yourself on this rotten foundation, then you should be ashamed of yourself because you are a leach too. I suppose taking a homestead on the lands of ethnically cleansed Indian Civilizations and slaves doesn't bother you? Not to mention the suffering of all the other victims throughout the world whose suffering and blood feeds the western leach slave empire. If you come to the West for other reasons, to borrow a quote, "you know where I stand." Your shortsighted point #3. Vlasov Army? Come on now, get a grip of yourself. Every peoples throughout the history of man have had low life traitors amongst them. They are not representative of the whole or what is right. Are you a traitor yourself? I couldn't write the words I actually think Garry Kasparov represents but they are very close to what I think of you. Your "sky is falling" nut job platforms are so similar, that the both of you should get together and form a "Chicken Little" coalition. Hands off the Baltic states? What a truly sad collection of "states" they are indeed. Sad in their failed "leadership." Just how many regions in the world have named places in honor of that hero of yours Dzhokhar Dudayev? How many of these places are located in the so called Western Waffen SS colonies of Baltic States? Even honoring their SS "heroes." Despicable. Information quoted from a Western source, Poland. a roundabout in the Polish capital Warsaw was named Rondo D?ochara Dudajewa. Latvia. Dzhokhar Dudayev Avenue (Džohara Dudajeva gatve) in the Latvian capital Riga. Ukraine. A street in Lviv was named after him Lithuania. Dzhokhar Dudayev Square (Dzocharo Dudajevo skveras) in the Lithuanian capital Vilnius. Estonia. A large room in the Barclay Hotel in Tartu, once used as Dudayev's office, is now called the Dudayev Suite. In the Nursipalo urban warfare training polygon of the Estonian Defense Forces, Johhar Dudayev Street crosses with Basayev Street. And some others nearby, Bosnia and Herzegovina. A street of Ulica Generala Dzohara Dudajeva in Goražde. Turkey. After Dudayev's death, various locations in Turkey were renamed after him, such as Cevher Dudayev Meydan? (Dzhokhar Dudayev Square) in Ankara and ?ehit Cevher Dudayev Park? (Martyr Dzhokhar Dudayev Park) in Adapazar?, Sakarya. Your crack pot point #4. What Empire? There is no Russian empire, take another look, it is a free society with a youthful president embarking on the track of peace and goodwill. Something you don't have. Most of all, Russia is not a leach Empire like the West. Your delusional point #5 Alliance with North Korea, Venezuela and Iran? What alliance??? The Islamic Republic of Iran was born around 1979 freeing itself from your dirty Western leach occupation. There are still Western agents there right now sabotaging the country, fermenting coups, acts of war, persecution and other atrocities all of which trace back to you. If there was an alliance with Russia, there would be Russian military bases right now proudly flying the Russian flag. Any attack or trespass against any part of Iran would then mean the same against Russia. The trespassers and attackers would cease to exist. Such a treaty and alliance would surly be announced and publicized, sending a shiver down your crumpled spine. If Venezuela was allied with Iran, Russia and North Korea. Surly Venezuela would not be selling oil to the Zionist Anglo Americans at any price. Iran would do the same. Oil finances the occupation of Palestine, Iraq, etc. and fuels the economies and war machine of the Crusader Zionist Anglo American allies. It legitimizes Israel. If what you say is true, there would also be no diplomatic recognition of Israel and its right to exist by this collective alliance you've conjured up. North Korea would not dismantle (surrender) its nuclear infrastructure to Bush. Russia would openly declare that Iran and North Korea have a right to nuclear weapons and supply them, just as the Anglo Americans have supplied nuclear weapons to their Israel. If the Colombia, a proxy client state of the USA, with or without the USA attacks Venezuela. Is there a similar defense treaty as the one you've imagined with Iran, with Venezuela and Russia? On what unfounded basis did you imagine all of these alliances with Russia? Are you getting these hallucinations while gazing into your magical rolling mad cow Matzah ball? However, in your madness, you do pose an interesting proposition. What would happen if Russia did openly form a military alliance with these countries? A line would be drawn upon the sand. Perhaps it would create a counter balance of sorts to the Anglo American alliance which is presently holding Arabia and the surrounding artificial kingdoms of convenience, Iraq, and others worldwide like Brunei with their proxy dictatorship states. If Russia doesn't form a serious military alliance with these remaining countries, the West's Hitlerism policies will no doubt occupy them by hook or crook to fuel the needs of the crooked Western democracy of deceit and complete the circle. Come back from the dark stormy clouds of your imagined Mount of Zion to reality. Last time I checked, both Venezuela and Russia recognize the right to exist of your Israel and there are business ties. There is no alliance, because if there were, then it would truly mean the end to your Hitlerism policies once and for all. Your unfounded conclusion point # 6 I think you are jealous and envious how Putin has jumped leaps and bounds bringing success and happiness to so many in Russia with clean hands. And Medvedev is pursuing the same successful course with honor, dignity and integrity. Clean and pure. How many countries has Russia invaded to finance its success? None. There are many foreigners, even Westerners, in Russia right now enjoying themselves as tourists, partying, having lots of fun, being treated with the utmost respect and successful profitable business people. Russia isn't financing all of this at the expense of other people in the world by invading and murdering them 1000's of miles away. Wake up from your madness and smell the stench in the air. How many civilizations and countries have your envied Western Zionist democracies invaded as leaches to finance their success as blood suckers? Countless. This is the true empire, the West, with its United Kingdom of conveniently conjured kingdoms to leach upon. What Russia does with clean hands, the West does with bloody hands not only against their "own' people but against others throughout the world, and it is getting more bloodier with each passing day. Without its empire, the leaching west would collapse. Even with its empire, it is collapsing. Like Nazism, the West keeps taking over countries to fuel its "success" for needs. Who created Saudi Arabia and its surrounding Kingdoms to leach upon? Who created Zionism to leach upon Palestine and torment the world with instability and terror? The same rotting failed Constitutional leach democracy of the Zionist Anglo American West has blood still dripping from its hands, seeking conquest after conquest to feed upon, to create a false image of success that no one really believes. The magic is gone once you know the trick. Those fast food takeout Matzah balls you are slurping on didn't just appear out of thin air along with the Big Mac through the magic of Western democracy. From the air you breath, the lands you occupy to the scenery you enjoy. All of it should remind you of how all of this came to be through the bloody process of leach democracy, entirely at the expense of victims under your feet and worldwide to make it all possible as the rotten junk food you envy. You are slurping all of this down rather shortsightedly in your delusional state and trying to feed others the same rubbish. You should be ashamed of yourself promoting the West as some example. I thought you had escaped from some sanatorium preaching your disgusting hatred and stupidly. You are "the Sky is falling" Mad Cow Chicken Little of Zion. Go join your haters "Losers Club."
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Regular_John 22 July, 2008, 11:20 I have become sick and tired of the Russian Governments relentless self righteous indignation over any outside criticism of any of its foreign policies. Again we witness their gross hypocrisy over Zimbabwe. All members of the G8 signed a statement of intent including the Russian president it was agreed at the summit that the members would back sanctions against Mugabe’s murderous regime. Within days of arriving back in Moscow Russia’s UN representative was instructed to agree to nothing, I get the feeling Medvedev got his legs slapped by big daddy Putin for having the audacity to act independently even though he is the elected President of his Nation with a mandate from the people to act on their behalf. Zimbabwe is in a mess they have gone from being a leading African economy the bread basket of Africa to a Nation who can no longer feed its people with 80% living in abject poverty. Already this year over 100 opposition members have been murdered and thousands beaten for daring to support the MDC opposition party its leader won the presidential election but has been denied his rightful place as Zimbabwe’s leader. The USA, Britain and all decent Governments with the exception of Russia and China are right to seek change within this tormented Nation which has a 2,000,000 % inflation rate and has just introduced a 1 billion dollar note which won’t even buy a loaf of bread. The reason they are right is because the Zimbabwean people are desperately crying out for change they want a safe decent life. So why does Russia and China object to sanctions to force change, well China supplies the Mugabe regime with all its weapons (a nice little earner) last year 76 tones of weapons bound for Zimbabwe was turned away from south African ports not by the south African government but by decent trade unionist, men with a conscience who knew these weapons would be used to wage war on the people of Zimbabwe by its own despicable government. And Russia why are they so reluctant to back sanctions they claim that it is not “right to interfere with the internal affairs of over nations” what a load of “bull crap” Russia has been sticking its nose into over countries internal affairs for years just look at Georgia and the Ukraine for example. Human rights are a low priority for Moscow, well what do you expect from a country with the worst human rights record in Europe. They wont let the suffering of the Zimbabwean people get in the way of a business deal only last year a famous Russian oligarch who owns a London football club was caught red handed trying to buy mineral rights in Zimbabwe breaking an existing UN sanction. Russia wants to show the world that it has its own separate international agenda but to prove its point it seems to be supporting the world’s worst regimes gathering around itself the scum of the earth people like Mugabe. The USA is right to ask if Russia should remain in the G8 how can you trust a partner when they say one thing and do another. Milliband called Russia’s actions incomprehensible an accurate statement given the evidence.
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