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Was Russia right to develop an alternative to America's GPS sat nav system?
sam 24 January, 2008, 08:44 See why not.after all Business is business. Monopoly is never a good think for the consumer.
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Sevodnya_Net 24 January, 2008, 11:13 Personally speaking I'd rather have Sergei Lavrov in my car than a satnav system(!), but yes, absolutely - of course Russia should develop an alternative. Russia/Soviet Union has a long history of expertise in navigation satellite systems.
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The Locator 24 January, 2008, 17:12 Was China right to develop an alternative sat nav, was EUROPE right in trying to develop an alternative? This is a million-dollar question, and the whole human race delights and revels in developing alternatives. Right now, almost everybody is trying to find an alternative for Fossil-fuels, for launch vehicles etc etc. However, the moot point is that SECURITY, EGO and NATIONAL PRIDE all are drivers and if a nation/country values that, it is 110% right in trying to find an alternative to a monopolistic, militarised system such as GPS.The Iraq war is proof enough.
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Sambu 25 January, 2008, 00:14 the question in the first place is wrong in principle.ask why not? We should appreciate Russia's effort in achieving this.perhaps only Russia can alternate this.after all every one can benefit from this like we all do now from GPS.
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Terry 26 January, 2008, 04:06 Sounds like a waist of money for national pride. The cold war is over. Russia can use our system for free. Please do. It works great!
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sj 26 January, 2008, 06:19 Russia was 'right' to develop alternative to American's GPS SAT Nav system. Why? U.S-'Russian policy' is military aggressive, hostile. Its 'Encirclement via Containment' using the ex-Soviet republics 'so-called' revelations. Example: Georgia president is U.S. dictator sponsored by U.S. President Bush $USD billions spread to others as well. Russia will harm no country, but has every right to 'defend' its sovereignty-boarders aa a matter of natural security of its citizens.U.S. is 'coveting' Russians oil, gas wealth and fact it will not impose UNSC sanctions when Iran is not a threat to anyone. Iran president did not say Iran will wipe Israel off map. First of all they don't experress themselves like that. But, as we the wowrld knows, the Israelis and U.S. does for sympathy for their client-welfare state, Israel.
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sam 26 January, 2008, 10:16 Never knew that the GPS was free.Had the impression that companies paid for its use.Am just assuming since nothing is free but I maybe wrong. Also the GPS system has military application.Do not think the USA would feel very safe if the tables are turn,cold war or no cold war.
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John 26 January, 2008, 12:16 It's not a case of being right or wrong, Russia as a soverign nation can do what it likes within the confines of the it's own and internation law.
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Russ from Berlin 26 January, 2008, 13:56 I remember reading somewhere that the US switched off GPS access during the initial phase of its attack on Iraq. Imagine what would happen to international air and other traffic if the US decided to use the GPS as a "pressure tool" in international politics. If for no other reason, it would be good to know that alternative systems are available in such an eventuality.
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Gregory 26 January, 2008, 17:47 Russia also invented the computer game Tetris I believe. This was then used in Nintendo Gamesboys in the West during the end of the 80's/early 90's and made some people a lot of money. At least Russia is INVENTING things. This shows their great skills and genius. Unlike Asia which invents nothing but copies everything. Almost all modern scientific and military breakthroughs have come from Northern (cebep) and Western nations. This is a fact. And further progress should be encouraged. Then the Israeli's can get it for free and sell it to the Chinese, who then give it to the Iranians,Koreans etc etc
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David 27 January, 2008, 09:27 Yes - Russia must carry on developing its own and not reply on products from the West which are controlled by the West and the prices that one pays (if you want) are absolutely scandelous. By the way, my Sat Nav is an old fashioned map. I just wonder how many people can still read an old fashioned map 'cause the day will come when that will happen
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sam 27 January, 2008, 20:27 Tetris is nothing Before the USSR had no need for patent.So many inventions were stolen by the west.Some of the inventors are still alive but are getting nothing. Advice you check out Prof.Ilazorov and his External fixator ( Ilazorov splint) still bears his name,they did not even bother to change it.Very interesting history.A western company behind his back registered it.It sells £500 each.and hundreds used daily.
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sam 27 January, 2008, 22:03 To clearify my last post,Ilazorov splints are used it orthopeadic surgery for limb lenghting surgery. The story behind it is fantastic example of a great man.He was an engineer who can up with the idea.But the USSR academy of sciences refused to hear him out cos he was not a doctor.So he went to medical school and now they heard him.USSR kept it secret for years till an italian deplomat had an accident.Woke up with a strang device round his leg ,paniced and ran home with the device round his leg.Thats how the world came to know about it.USSR got a telling off for this secret as it did not have anything to do with the cold war.Prof.Ilazorov in return became famous and device which has remained unchanged in 50years was stolen from him.If he just got 1% royalities,he would be making like 2-3k a day(pounds) Well happy that Russians now know the way of business and this disgrace can not happen again.Or can it?
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Gregory 28 January, 2008, 17:48 It is a well known fact that inventors are not "business smart". This is code for ideas being stolen and used by someone else. I worked in export and watched how an average unmodified hearing aid device changed hands in a business three times and still sold well globally despite no PR, no R & D, no marketing. Many ideas are announced as new and innovative but are in fact already used years beforehand. E-mail is but one example. If you truly want to understand technology and manufacturing trends then follow the export leads and trade missions. This will show who invents, who steals and who manufacturs items we use everyday. I wish Russia the best of luck. The UK has zero manufacturing capability. Do not go down that same route. The UK is famous for promoting "cottage shed industries" as barrier-breaking innovation. At least in France they have "poles de recherches" and German manufacturing is world reknowned. Yeah.like when ever we stop reminding them about AH we complement them occasionally on engineering. We are all so nice.
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Al 30 January, 2008, 10:45 "Terry January 26, 2008, 07:06 Sounds like a waist of money for national pride. The cold war is over. Russia can use our system for free. Please do. It works great! " - The cold war never ended in either Washington or London. - Once a person or country becomes dependent on others it loses its freedom and independence. Russia has no intention of becoming a US dependent or another dumbed down by the West country fit mostly for providing it with cheap labour, resources and NATO cannonfodder. That prestigious role has already been eagerly accepted by many Eastern European countries.
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Edgar 2 February, 2008, 03:53 I think Russia must have it's own navigation system. First of all, it will work more accurate in northern width. Second, it will be available every time(commercial GPS was blocked by US army during DESERT STORM operation) Third, gadgets will give possibility to choose which signal you want to receive(GLONAS or GPS). Russia will break up a monopoly of US GPS!
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Adam 3 February, 2008, 13:51 The probability is that Rassia may have no better choice than to develope cutting age technologies
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SepheronX 8 February, 2008, 03:20 I think it is perfect. Instead of monopolizing a market, which USA is good at doing (Microsoft, apple, etc), and it will provide alternatives, that MAY actually work. Russia's previous nav system sucked for the average person, as it did not work as well. But this should bring much better results, and no need to be stuck with American technology, when Russia is good on their own with their own technology.
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Baliso 8 February, 2008, 12:37 Russia should have done this long time ago. When you start begging and/or depending upon other "DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES" you wind up in their stomachs. It will send a signal to those thinking that they can monopolize space that there are good, bold and smart guys who can do it at 1/10 th the price. Go ahead, RUSSIA, take what is due to you and claim all first things in the world. For sure other countries will follow you.
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Rakesh 11 February, 2008, 20:46 If Russian science and technology is a '10', then the rest of the world combined is '6'. Russian achievements are amazing, and incredibly they have done it alone while the US efforts are mainly due to immigrants from Europe, India and China. Russia should throw open its institutions to foreigners so there can be more immigration and then they can kick the crap out of the rest of the world. If they dissolved the Soveit Union gradually and slowly, today Russians would have landed on Mars. But the mess caused by the unruly break-up has put them 20 years back. The resurgence in all walks of life in Russia will take it right back to the top. There's a saying in India - a fallen elephant is still taller than a donkey. Russia should go ahead with GLONASS and rope in Europe, China and India to share costs. Viva Russia
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