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Do you think the death of Badri Patarkatsishvili was natural?
External 13 February, 2008, 12:14 British police have said they are treating as "suspicious" the death of Georgian tycoon and opposition politician Badri Patarkatsishvili. - Well, if the Bush's Ballast Corporation is saying this, you can be rest assured its 110% assured that there is something.vely.vely.fishy.about the whole thing! Just wonder if Misha is sending less fish and G.wine to WH these days,considering he has enough to spare!
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Shuga 13 February, 2008, 13:51 No way!!! He was killed!!! killed by Saakashvili, and everyone knows that, after killing Jvania several years ago, I think there is no single georgian, who would believe that Patarkatsishvili's death was natural.
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Sevodnya_Net 13 February, 2008, 14:08 All sudden deaths are treated as "suspicious" by the British police pending a post mortem. And given Mr Patarkatsishvili's high profile this would be even more the case. I don't know what the collective noun for a group of conspiracy theories is but I'm looking forward to meeting one shortly - RT has kindly lit the blue touch paper :-)
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fred 13 February, 2008, 17:10 not really the most important is "if" but curious to see what is going to be the western media coverage about the topic . at the same time , London is really a great place to be an opposant to anything . ;-))
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Sevodnya_Net 13 February, 2008, 18:10 "London is really a great place to be an opposant to anything . ;-)) " Not if your name is Litvinenko it isn't :-) :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Apparently they are also going to carry out toxicology tests on Mr P's body -guess they don't want to leave anything to chance this time.
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sam 13 February, 2008, 19:37 Now it is not unheard of that even a 25year old fit guy dropping dead from sudden onset of Cardiac Arrhythmia.After all a footballer died from it in a match just last month.So not having a history of heart problem as his doctor said does not mean he could not just drop dead anyway. However it is not true that the british police treat all deaths "suspicious" before a post mortem.That not true with medical cases but true with say a man lying in a back street in a pool of blood. Medical cases can only be ruled suspicious after a post mortem is carried out and by the coroner,not the police. The only explanation for them doing it, is if they found something at the scene suspicious or simply jumping the gun cos of who he was. However its a nice story to have all kinds of theories about. Who I feel sorry for is Berezovsky,people arround him just keep dying:) Cannt wait for Putin to be pulled into this affair as well.
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Sevodnya_Net 13 February, 2008, 21:34 "However it is not true that the british police treat all deaths "suspicious" before a post mortem" That's not what I said - the police treat sudden deaths as suspicious when there is no obvious natural cause - Mr P was, allegedly, fit and healthy. Also, given the intrigue surrounding his affairs, the police, pending any evidence to the contrary, are even more likely to be suspicious. It doesn't necessarily mean they have any positive evidence as yet. Some of the reporting of this has been a bit hysterical, I fear, and not very respectful to Mr P, who risks being turned into a plaything after his death. If it turns out to have been foul play then fair enough, let rip, but a lot of people are jumping the gun a little. I'm not sure what Mr Okruashvili means when he says that it's funny how people keep dying in February. I wasn't aware that February held out more hopeful prospects of defying the grim reaper than any other month.
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Sanjay 14 February, 2008, 00:27 It seems Russia has been checkmated again. Within 15 years, Georgia has transformed itself into one of the most anti-russian states with active involvement of anglo-americans. Badri a former one time associate of berezovsky who later perhaps fell out with him, dies in london, of all the places in the world. There is reason to believe anglo-americans would like to eliminate all opposition to Sakashvili regime. If this is all a prelude to georgia joining NATO, which it looks like it will, the financing, arming, training and penetration of terrorist groups inside Russia will attain a new level of sophistication and effectiveness. Anglo-american financiers are very smart and cunning. They always use small puppet states in the vicinity of large states to keep them unstable and bleeding. Whether its taiwan-China, Pakistan-India, Georgia-Russia, it is a classic Sun-Tzu strategy. Badri's assasination eliminates perhaps one of the last major figures which could have challenged Saakashvilli's regime. With this, the internal stability with in georgia has dramatically increased and Russia's ability to influence Georgia's anglo-american obsessions have been almost eliminated. Russia has been chekmated brilliantly for the last 15 years. Anglo-americans are now at the borders of Russia from all directions. From the East through Japan and Korea, from the west through NATO and from South through Turkey Georgia and Central Asian States. Badri's death also highlights how determined Anglo-americans are to encircle and annihilate Russia. Neoliberal Medvedev-Kudrin axis will further exacerbate the poverty inside Russia, leading to mass exodus of Russian women for sexual exploitation and Suicidal upsurge of Russian Males. Life will not be easy for Russia.
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George. D. 14 February, 2008, 01:27 Maybe Putin did it.
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Daniel 14 February, 2008, 01:59 Several media outlets have implicated Putin and Lugovoi in Patarkatsishvili's death
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Misha 14 February, 2008, 04:57 Of course the untimely death of the Georgian government critic and Fox-News billionaire Badri Patarkatsishvili is extremely suspicious. That explains why the British police are treating his death as suspicious. I have nothing but admiration for the professionalism of British police, and I am sure they will get to the bottom of this (even if the CIA is a whole lot more sophisticated than the polonium-wielding Russians are). Is it possible that the US CIA has something even more sophisticated than Polonium, where every trace can literally be erased? Well, we shall see. It's Scotland Yard vs. the Yanks and their Georgian puppets in a genuine three ring circus! But what about Georgia? Georgia itself is a 3rd rate country, surrounded by culturally and religiously hostile powers on all sides (with the possible exception of Russia, which is not naturally hostile to Georgia, but which has only become hostile in recent years, since the US-CIA installed puppet Saakashvili has been installed in power in Georgia). Long ago the mighty Russian empire pressed south to the Caucus Mountain range, and even further to the southern slopes of those mountains, to Georgia and the surrounding regions. Russia extended her control and influence over the disparate savage tribes that lived in the region which we today call "Georgia." It is fair to say that whatever culture and civlilization modern Georgia has today is due in large part to the strong Russian influence over the caucuses over the past 250 years. If the civilizing influence of Russia and her culture were to disappear tomorrow in Georgia, it would only be a matter of time before the "nation" of Georgia would unwind and degenerate back into that natural state which Russia first found her in. Russia is intuitively aware of this reality in a way that escapes Western consciousness. Russia need only keep up its trade sanctions and restrictions on travel with Georgia, etc. This will inevitably choke Georgia off from the only natural market and natural source of cultural values which it has ever known. This will destroy Georgia as surely as pulling a cactus out of the dessert earth by its roots and laying it out in the sun to dry chokes it off. The West and NATO can give the corrupt and anti-democratic Georgian tribal chieftains, such as "Misha (sic) Saakashvili" all sorts of shiny new weapons, and even troops and missiles and whatnot. But what the West cannot give Georgia is a culture that will replace the irreplaceable influence of 300 years of Russian culture on Georgia. Over time Georgia can only descend to the same cultural level as her neighbors, which after all is the pit from whence she first came before Russia found her. In the long run the United States will even lose interest in Georgia for whatever it might be worth to the US now. The US has no particular affinity for Georgians and the US would just as happily bomb and kill a million or ten million Georgians as they now bomb Iraqis or Afghans. But Georgia has temporary value to the US, because it offers a narrow stretch of land which enables Caspian energy resources to be shipped to Europe via a route that bypasses Russia. It is likely that not one molecule of oil or gas will transit to Europe via this route without a heavy subsidy from the US and/or other Western governments. Over time the level of this subsidy will need to increase, not decrease. Therefore the Western abandonment and betrayal of Georgia is only a matter of time. Georgia is destined to be abandoned by her current lovers. Will Russia take Georgia back again once her current lovers have abandoned her? Probably. Mir, Misha [Parts of this post were removed. RT kindly suggests being more respectful to subject(s) of your criticism]
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sanjay 14 February, 2008, 05:38 Misha I am shocked and amazed at this rant you just posted. Georgia must never be again acquired by Russia. The only thing Russia has to oppose is the influence of outsiders such as anglo-americans who are promoting anti-russian hysteria. NATO is obviously an existential threat to Russians, but trashing georgian culture and claiming it all derived from Russia is not correct. Badri's death will give ammo to russophobes who will again blame Putin for everything.
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Daniel 14 February, 2008, 05:55 Wow, what a charming post Misha, you really like Georgia and the fact that it prefers to be Western orientated rather then Russian orientated.
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fred 14 February, 2008, 08:22 misha . a few comments : i have been living in Israel for some times , one of the guy i know there was always making cross-over joke ( between french , english and hebrew ) . he was always asking " in the word CIA , what the i stand for ?" (in french = intelligence mean cleverness .! ;-)) ) "In the long run the United States will even lose interest in Georgia for whatever it might be worth to the US now. The US has no particular affinity for Georgians and the US would just as happily bomb and kill a million or ten million Georgians as they now bomb Iraqis or Afghans." well , it is a matter of opinion !! i am not so sure about that .!! at least not directly , as in Iraq US soldiers are not the main problem , more all the "soldiers of fortune" hired to be be "happily trigger frenzy" at the same time , i feel Bush administration (not american peoples , they would only been lied to as the reasons.) is the type to bomb ANYONE if it serves its interests .! will georgia be betrayed ? yes off-course, as soon as needed .! sevodnya : it was only a (bad) joke .! ;-)) is that because all "grey" oligarch took shelter in london or just a matter of unluck ? who cares anyway . not the deads !!
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fred 14 February, 2008, 08:30 yes , sanjay . russia IS responsible for everything and anything . if my coffee was too cold , this morning , i can detect FSB tracks there . ;-))
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David 14 February, 2008, 13:08 Hell, Fred, let's go the whole hog - Russia is to blame for the so-called decline in house prices in the UK, the so called 'credit crunch in USA, the world recession about to hit us all, the fog we have experienced in the UK of late and cold temperatures to with it, the increase in vehicle charges when entering London to line the Mayor of London's pocket - any more ideas?
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sam 14 February, 2008, 16:26 Really if Georgia does not want to be pulling into his death over and over again.They should ask a team of UN pathologists to examine the body preferably none western ones.Even Britian should swollow their pride and request a second autopsy by such a team or the case will never come to rest.
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Norman 14 February, 2008, 18:14 An independent autopsy should be performed. Mr. Patarkatsishvili could have been killed by one of his own security team, someone who had easy access to him, like in the case of Indira Ghandi ( former Indian P.M.).
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fred 14 February, 2008, 19:28 david . yes exactly .! this . is widely known to be BECAUSE of russia and that . as well ! (just fill up the blank with any fantasies ) but as an economist , i must add = the recession is no action from Russia , it has for origins the almighty greed and mad lust from USA and to some extents UK ( could you really believe houses prices would always go-up as said by the ones lending the money thu making good interets and comissions ?) for them (the ones fools enough to get caught in the process ) sorry , i have NO pity , i would say , i hope they get a good lesson from being stripped off theirs belongings. as for others it should be a good idea to start to learn what is B.R.I.C. ! sam . the fuss and noise made around litvinenko , make it almost impossible to believe anything coming from london on this death . if the police say "no murder" it suspicious . some will say "double standarts" . if the police say "murder" then sakashvilli is going to make a lot of noise and probably joined by bush's team . it is the story of the liar : when you keep on saying lies for a while ( mass destruction weapons , irak , yellow cake , etc. ) peoples don't believe you anymore . even when you're saying the truth .! so it's all about loss of image .!
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Sanjay 14 February, 2008, 19:45 As more information pours in it is clear that British have hastily declared the death to be natural which itself is highly suspicious. The more we analyze the more we find that over the last 80 years the savage wars ango-americans have launched under the garb of freedom, democracy, human rights or against communism etc are really colonial wars. It is a pity that almost no major country is exposing this evil-empire of anglo-americans. Under some pretext or the other free nations are being invaded and subjugated. Zhvania and now Badri's death clearly indicate that anglo-americans are prepared to go to any extent to annihilate Russia and as a result keep Europe Russia and India weak and isolated. Europe-Russia-India are Indo european peoples with the same ancient cultural roots and the same language origins. These three regions, if the conditions are right have always had natural affinity and natural desire to cooperate with each other. What the anglo-american financiers in colaboration with traitors in eurasia have brilliantly succeeded in doing will have to be reversed if we ever expect to see any peace in eurasia. European puppet states will continue their assault on Russia and against each other in the forseeable future.
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