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Does the UN have a future or is it rusty and dead?
Californian 10 September, 2008, 04:51 The UN's primary job is to prevent another World War, and on this issue they have clearly succeeded thus far. However they have failed on an enourmous amount of other issues, the most notable being Rwanda, and now the UN continues to fail on Darfur. These are the Epic Failures. The total death toll on the 2008 South Ossetian War is under 5,000 - most of the people being Russian Civvies. The total death toll in Rwanda is at least 500,000. Yet CNN/Fox News/Sky News et al. are giving way more time and effort to the 2008 South Ossetian War, while 200,000 to 400,000 men, women and CHILDREN are being killed in Darfur. US sends 1 billion dollars to Georgia, whereas that money is much more needed in Rwanda, in Darfur, or even in New Orleans. The failure of the UN is that most of its members just want to use it to their own ends, and that there's no armed forces strong enough to just go into Darfur, or into Rwanda and stop this crap.
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Birdie 11 September, 2008, 02:41 The UN will consider to have a useful and successful future as long as countries use it for it's primary purpose, the purpose being a place where world issues can be discussed and joint solutions can be made. As we have seen with the US, for example, the UN will lose it's purpose if countries go there only to state their own personal agenda with no consideration for what the rest of the world has to say about it.
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Aryna Indian 11 September, 2008, 09:41 Robert you said we BRIC is using US expertise? Let me explain- World biggest Bank, CITI Group has Indian CEO, Most of NASA and Microsoft engineers are Indians, So the largest Fund group CITI uses who's expertise? the Indian CEO, who runs the Largest group of company in the worlds largest economy. NASA had Kalpana Chawla who got killed in Columbia disaster, so who is using who's expertise? US uses brain all around the world (so called expertise) Indians, Japanese and Chinese to make NASA, Microsoft, CITI group work. Russia has their own PURELY their own scientist (may be few here or there are foreigners compared to US immigrants) and yet Russia is always on TOP in Space, Science, Research and everything else. Russian are smartest people on earth. We like it or not, but thats how it is. Your US wants the rest of the world Bankrupt and YOU know it and I know it how much US hates China, and you think US is HELPING china to overtake US, being worlds largest economy? You MUST BE KIDDING RIGHT? India, China, Russia, Brazil we all are using YOUR laid out GAME at our own benefit, We are becoming rich with not your help, We becoming rich by BEATING YOU AT YOUR OWN GAME. Talk about Russia got petro money, Gas money, then why not you talk about your money? where does your money comes from? Iron money, make weapons and Pentagon INC gets all kind of money, Dont talk about that but hate Russia, India and China (BRIC) getting richer. US is still right now trying to beat this BRIC to come into power but Nothing US or EU will able to do it, WE USING YOUR OWN GAME OF MONOPOLY TO BEAT YOU. Go hide in dirt somewhere US. BRIC is coming and Russia is rising, Nothing US could do about it, it is just better to take it as man right in the face, Sooner US/EU accepts the facts about BRIC and Russia rising, Better it will be on them, If they put little lubrication it would make it easier, it is their choice, Take it easier way or Harder way, YOU GONNA TAKE IT EITHER WAY. and we gonna give it real hard.
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Paul 11 September, 2008, 13:21 The UN has been pretty effective at preventing and ending conflicts, but there is room for improvement. The problem is that some countries disregard their obligations under the UN charter and this has lead to a more dangerous and unstable world. America's invasion of Iraq has set the UN back a lot.
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 11 September, 2008, 22:49 US-controlled UN must held accountable for their compliance with - outlaw, unchecked, (free-to-go, free to kill) US surges of insurgent outlaw "private contrator" armies in Iraq, as well as in Afghanistan, and elsewhere - as in South Ossetia, where "70-day sessions"-trained Georgian special forces that wreaked havoc on innocent, defenseless children and women of South Ossetia - (and the same US-led criminal insanity, as well, around the world), have free ticket to kill, torture, torment, and destroy cities WITHOUT UN SANCTIONS OR JUSTICE served. US-controlled UN must be deemed an illegitimate organization. UN maintains Iraq to be an "outlaw country" so that US's "private contractors" who are under NO LAWS - not bound under domestic law nor under international law - therefore not responsible to comply to ANY LAWS and therefore the US contractor-killers - like the "Yoooooohooooo!! hyped (as evident in Georgian soldier's cell-phone video) - the machine-gun toting, MIND CONTROL DRUGGED US-trained Georgian forces - are allowed to RUN RAMPANT, spreading the warped gospel of war in Iraq, and worldwide, led by the self-acclaimed "war president" g.w. bUSh. Take note that the following includes references that ordinarily would be deemed by world opinion as "illegitimate" because they derive from the hated Holy Scriptures (long-banned from US schools) but since the UN proudly advertises itself to be the upholder of peace and justice, having chosen the theme in it's New York UN Headquarter's lobby - brandishing the words, in gold, from the Book of Isaiah, and with Russia's famous mural depicting the prophecy, from the Book of Isaiah"; let us continue to explore the UN/US participation in the "wrangles" that cast light on international laws purported to be governing the nations and what "God" the (US-controlled UN) really trust in and submit themselves. [Part of this post has been deleted by RT] The "wrangle" between Georgia-Russia proves the UN has not exercised its power to be the protector of sovereign nations. The international media wrangle regarding truth of South Ossetia's victimization of her people by US military-trained Georgian "special forces"; Georgian gov. (US-orchestrated) crimes upon South Ossetia's innocent civilians is again reason for a Red Alert attention by UN. Instead, as we know, it was Russia who recently has shown to uphold the UN dearly-displayed(UN lobby mural of Isaiah's "turn weapons into plowshares" theme of peace and security) "love your neighbor as yourself" doctrine; and it was and is USA government who again displays her blatant abhorring of law and order; while other prominent UN Member nations have chosen to hide under the skirts of the "lady of kingdoms" USA; having no regard for justice, truth, nor has taken a firm stand regarding the clear and undeniable evidence of mass criminally-insane US-led genocide upon citizens of South Osssetia, as well as upon much of the world. The US-led UN pattern of abuse and neglect of its power is clearly evident. Iraq and Afghanistan are prime examples that US must be held accountable by UN. US patterns of complete disregard for UN Charter makes clear that UN continues to favor "the well-favored harlot" that Isaiah declared centuries ago, would emerge. Read Isaiah 47; the chapter exposes the unmistakable nation of USA. Take a moment to examine U(S)N controller of the New World DisOrder in ongoing power private-contractor (insurgent) "surges" spreading her great eagle wings from nation to nation; outlined in Isaiah 14. How can we expect justice in South Ossetia when other nations are allowed to suffer under the same lame UN body. Look over the shoulder to Iraq and the present predicament at the UN: Because UN currently deems Iraq as an outlawed country (under current UN Charter's Chapter VII status for Iraq)); and as long as UN remains indifferent to removing Iraq from Chapter VII, UN is a defunct Organization under regime of bUSh and should be deemed ineffective, illegal, and having no authority to enforce it's U(S)N highly controversial and SINISTER US-Iraqi security pact Mandating US military presence in Iraq with many stipulations that would deem Iraq a subject of US aggression and compliance to regime control; continued ETHNIC CLEANSING of Iraqis, and continued US practice of EXPERIMENTAL WEAPONRY, MIND CONTROL; PRIVATE CONTRACTOR ARMIES of death and destruction upon the sovereign nation of Iraq; as also Afghanistan and other nations are subject to similar "Agreements" with US. The wrangle over South Ossetia will not be settled until the great eagle's head MedUSA, is broken, just like it was to Goliath, and just as it was to Haman in the days of Esther, at Shushan in Persia, today's Iran. The people of the nations will soon know that there is a "conspiracy" against the remnants of the ancient people who "seek peace and pursue it" in their daily lives - the greatest threat to the greatest nation that does not abhor evil, and instead promotes it, nation to nation. HaiYAH
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Timothy Paul Walsh 12 September, 2008, 10:34 The United Nations has never really been an affective body. Most of her decisions in recent times at least, are moreover extremely flawed. The desperate and terrible war in the Balkans favoured the Albanians and punished and bombed Serbia, using the excuse that the UN was using its reason d'etre of ending the war. This world body, basically became a weapon for British and American aggression. Similarly the foundation of ending war in Europe is spurious to say the least. I would rather say a new body including Russia and Eastern Europe, the Baltic countries and the Far esst should be formed, similar to the "Shanghai Agreements" shown a week ago on RT. The very existence of a body which co-operated with Nato over Yugoslavia; its dissolution and the recent naming of Kosovo-strengthening the 'business weapon' that these bodies have become. Membership of the European Union and Nato seems to justify some invasions, such as the bombing of Sarejevo as a means to rebuild in the Marshall plan sense of Japan and Germany after World War Two. It is certainly interesting how quickly cities and lands (GM foods and crops)become geographic and physical spaces of the once powerful United States and Britain. Once the Rupert Murdoch Empire is brought down, then America would find it hard to maintain and prop up governments in Eastern Europe. Media has forgotten its philosophy does not represent "roughshod" propaganda, it is anti-intellectual, wars by social polarity. It is this involvement and close biased analysis (read banalysis)of the war fought in South Ossetia put Russia own more to the fore. We can argue the rights and wrongs. Essentially we saw Nato and UN as the "sign and seal" of U.S. Imperialism. American citizens themselves have spoken up for the world's need for a more humane Washington with Senator Barack Obama. Russia leads Europe and the weakness of the UN is a sign of this change. It is interesting about the silence of politions in the West and Nato when the Netherlands troops stood by in the terrible massacre of Srevrenica. I myself wrote a poem about the other great display of morality about Rwanda where Nato and UN stood by. A more balanced Europe necessitates Russia in its strong, involuble role is a manificent coup. British Arrogance espoused by Miliband is impotent and a sham of the art of diplomacy. Mr Medvedev is correct to hold the slavic line is superb, check and the Moscow Interzonal is one. May his legacy life long in the minds of Russians and the world as Putin showed the world the master of real champions of people. Yes, the United Nations must desolve. It lost it's neutrality in the 1980's with the invasion of Dominican republic, the Vietnam tragedy and Iraq. Remember Allende killed a day ago in 1973 by the U.S.!
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qualla3stfiqui 12 September, 2008, 16:54 Briefly restated, US foreign policy, whether under George H.W. Bush, guided by Kissinger, or under Clinton or under George W. Bush, has followed the Mackinder outline suggested in the Brzezinski statement—divide and rule, balance of power politics. Preventing any ‘rival power’ or groups of powers on Eurasia from ‘challenging’ American sole Superpower dominance was codified in the official National Security Strategy of the United States, published in September, 2002, a year after September 11. [4] That Bush Doctrine policy went so far as to justify for the first time ‘pre-emptive’ war, such as the attack on Iraq in 2003, to depose foreign regimes that represented a threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate. That doctrine ended definitively for much of the civilized world the American legitimacy in foreign affairs. Since 2002 Washington has pushed relentlessly with an agenda of covert regime change, most exemplified by its covert organizing of pro-NATO regime changes in Georgia and Ukraine in 2003-2004. Washington has organized, in violation of the agreement it had pledged when James Baker III met with Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, namely that the US would not extend the borders of NATO eastwards in return for Moscow allowing a united Germany be as well a member of NATO.[5] Washington conveniently suffered a case of diplomatic amnesia as people like John McCain’s foreign policy guru, Randy Scheunemann , a leading neo-conservative hawk, led the campaign after 1991 to bring Poland, the Baltic States, the Czech Republic and other former Warsaw Pact states into NATO. Moscow, not surprisingly, became alarmed at the pattern. Understandably so. Finally when Washington announced in early 2007 that it planned to station its missile ‘defense’ array in Poland, including US missiles, and in the Czech Republic, then-President Putin reactzed loudly. His remarks were largely censored by the ever-watchful US media, and only the comments of US officials expressing ‘shock’ at the hostile reaction of Russia to the US missile defense plans, were reported. Washington made the ludicrous argument that the Polish and Czech installations were necessary to defend US security interests in event of a potential nuclear missile attack by Iran. When Putin exposed the fraud of the Bush Administration’s Iran defense argument by proposing an alternative site for US interceptor radar far closer to Teheran in Azerbaijan, a surprised Bush was left speechless. Washington simply ignored the Azeri option and rammed ahead with Poland and the Czech sites.[6] What few people outside military strategy circles know, is that missile defense, even primitive, is as one leading American missile defense strategist put it, “the missing link to a nuclear first strike capability.” [7] If the United States is able to deploy missile defense on Russia’s borders and Russia has none, the US has won World War III and is in a position to dictate terms of unconditional surrender to Russia, its dismemberment as a viable nation, its entire dismantlement. Little wonder that Putin reacted. Moscow strategists know full well what US military adventures have been since the 1940’s.
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qualla3stfiqui 12 September, 2008, 17:22 This all leads us back to the consequences of the Russian response in Georgia after 8.8.08. What Russia has done by swiftly responding with military force, followed by the announcement by President Medvedev of Russia’s Five Points of Russian foreign policy which some western commentators have dubbed the Medvedev Doctrine. The five points include, in addition to Russia’s reaffirmation of its commitment to the principles of international law, a simple statement that ‘the world should be multipolar.’ Medvedev notes, ‘A single-pole world is unacceptable. Domination is something we cannot allow. We cannot accept a world order in which one country makes all the decisions, even as serious and influential a country as the United States of America. Such a world is unstable and threatened by conflict.’ Then after stating its wish to have peaceful friendly relations with Europe the USA and others, and its intent to protect its citizens ‘wherever they may be,’ Medvedev comes to the decisive fifth point: ‘as is the case of other countries, there are regions in which Russia has privileged interests. These regions are home to countries with which we share special historical relations and are bound together as friends and good neighbors. We will pay particular attention to our work in these regions and build friendly ties with these countries, our close neighbors.’[8] If we follow the latest Russian foreign policy moves with the recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as sovereign independent states, Russia’s August 29 agreement with Tajikistan that allows Russia to expand its presence at Tajikstan’s Gissar Airport. The fact of that agreement was a potentially devastating blow to Washington’s Eurasia geopolitical strategy. Tajikistan, a remote central Asian country with dependence on Russia for export of its uranium and dependent on heroin for much of its income, was drawing closer to a strategic link with Washington after 2005. In the wake of the Russian reaction in Georgia, Tajikistan’s dictator President, Emomali Rakhmon clearly decided his best security guarantee lay in closer ties with Moscow not Washington. The government of pro-NATO ‘Orange Revolution’ President Viktor Yushchenko in Ukraine collapsed on September 3 when Yushchenko pulled out of the ruling coalition over the refusal of Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko to back the president in his support for Georgia and condemnation of Russia in the recent conflict over South Ossetia. Yushchenko accused Tymoshenko of ‘treason and political corruption,’ over her failure to back a pro-US stand. He also withdrew over new laws passed by Tymoshenko’s party in de facto coalition, stripping the President of his veto on prime ministerial candidates, and facilitating a procedure for impeaching the president. According to Russia’s RAI Novosti, Ukraine's pro-Russian former prime minister, Viktor Yanukovich, who heads the Party of Regions, has said that he does not rule out the possibility of forming a parliamentary majority with the Yulia Tymoshenko Bloc. Such a move would likely remove from the discussion the entire issue of a Ukrainian application to join NATO. American global strategy is in crisis, and this is clearly what Moscow has sensed. The United States has insufficient power to cope with the war in Iraq and increasingly in Afghanistan. Both were to have been an essential part of a US policy to militarily control Eurasian rivals, especially Russia and China. However, to act militarily beyond sabre rattling against Russia in Georgia has now been exposed for all Georgia’s neighbor states as essentially a US bluff. Continuing the current US strategy means dealing with the war on Islam rather than the Russian one. The confluence of US Presidential political posturing, a devastating US economic and financial crisis that is worsening by the day and the loss of credibility for US foreign policy around the world since the Bush Administration came to Washington in 2001, have created the opening for other powers to begin to act on what would be Halford Mackinder’s worst nightmare: A Russian Heartland that is vital and that is able to forge strategic relationships, primarily not through guns as during the Cold War, but through economic and trade cooperation, with China, Kazakhstan and other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Washington has made devastating strategic miscalculations, but not merely in Georgia. They began back in 1990 when there had been a beautiful opportunity to build bridges of peaceful economic cooperation between the OECD and Russia. Instead, George Bush senior and the US sent NATO and the IMF east to create economic chaos, looting and instability, evidently thinking that a better option. The next President will bear the consequences of having lost that opportunity.
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Sevodnya_Net 12 September, 2008, 18:19 Timothy Paul Walsh wrote: "It lost it's neutrality in the 1980's with the invasion of Dominican republic, " I don't think the Dominican Republic was invaded in the 1980's was it? Perhaps you mean Grenada, invaded allegedly at the behest of Dominica (a separate state) The UN has many shortcomings but I shudder to think of what might happen if it "desolved" without some form of replacement.
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Aryan Indian 13 September, 2008, 04:33 US is saying now that it will stop being NICE to venezuela in recent developments. That is a joke that US gonna stop being nice, WHEN DOES US IS NICE TO ANYONE? some should question that first of all. Venezuela or Russia or in fact anything outside of continent USA, US was never and will never be nice to anyone. What a joke, saying US will stop being nice, Matter of Laugh to me.
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Vijay Singh 13 September, 2008, 09:57 That Bush Doctrine policy went so far as to justify for the first time ‘pre-emptive’ war, such as the attack on Iraq in 2003, to depose foreign regimes that represented a threat to the security of the United States, even if that threat was not immediate. That doctrine ended definitively for much of the civilized world the American legitimacy in foreign affairs. - In that case isn't it time for all countries within the periphery of US as well as not so much within the periphery to have adequate missile defense. Unless, there is a moratorium on the "Bush Doctrine" by the present and future leaders of the US shamocracy! The only answer to such doctrines is a revamped UN control on all Nuclear stockpiles.!
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J 13 September, 2008, 22:42 A very important thing to realize is that The U.S. uses privatized military and contracts. Such as Russia Saw in the conflict in Georgia Ossetian Conflict. They also pool hardware from diffrent supplyers. The basic premise is to finance predictable warfare to destablize a country or region for the self gain and Agenda Of the United States. If you also become aware that the United States Backs Pro Arian or Arian european countries. Russia reguardless of skin color hair or eyes has been classified as something foriegn. Most Russians have note woken up to the fact I belive. your are still held and classified as something diffrent even If you have blonde hair and blue eyes. Let's take into account how washington endorses Georgia, in turn what did Georgia do it attacked The Ossetian people. What about the war games with the Ukraine that washington was more than happy to particpate in. Stock piles of Ukraine miltary hard ware found in Georgia. Why did it take so long to respond to the massacre of thousands of Bosnian people by the Serbs / Serbia? It is because the Bosnian's are considerd to be slightly ethnic. To top that Milosavich helped to destabilize the region allowing the N.A.T.O and washington to come and secure the situation for British Petroleum to gain access to the oil reserve's and to finish the trans continetal pipe line. The United States Is in so much turmoil domestically that it has no choice to be a destructive entity. Predectable war is a big buisness backed by major oil company's. It generates revenue by literaly creating pre programed genocide. This machine keeps running global in order for it not to consume it's self domestically. In this manner it keeps society in the United States from collapsing while exploting it's citizen's will to survive. It is instituionalized slavery on a grand scale. Some say the less of two evil's. "However I would say it is the people in the dwelling of the instituion and the doctrine that are evil".
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Pawel 24 September, 2008, 17:32 The main flaw in the UN system is the security council veto. A lot more conflicts would be resolved much quicker if the General Assembly would decide matters instead of just a handful of nations. Too often world powers use their veto to override very important resolutions. But on the other hand, if world powers did not have a veto and would be at the mercy of the general assembly, then the US would probably go broke in a week trying to bribe every country to vote its way. The UN has nevertheless been effective in some areas and has prevented some conflicts or significantly reduced the duration and fallout of others. But there is simply too much self-interest in the world right now for the UN system to be truly effective. Individual countries can easily influence other nations to do their bidding and override the UN.
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sam 25 September, 2008, 21:09 What gets me is when the US and EU stands up and says "The whole world supports us" or that "The world world is against Russia" As if the USA,EU and NATO constitutes the whole world and no one else matters. In a report of Sept.21st it seems that the whole world begs to differ. Support for EU stance in the UN has dropped from 70% to 50% Support for the US resolutions dropped from 77% to 30% Resolutions put forward by China on the other hand raise from 50% to 74% and that of Russia to 76%. Do you think the real world is trying to tell the west something? Its no wonder the USA has done everything to undermine the UN. The UN is the only place any country can speak for themselves.Yet as Bush said,the UN holds no importance.Sure why let the majority of the people of this world have a voice? The USA had repeatedly blocked the affairs of the UN,sometime using obvious tactics like blocking Visas to people who are supposed to address the UN but do not come on the US friends list. Take for example them denying visas to representatives of separatist areas like South Ossetia and Abkhazia.Yet freely giving visas to those of Kosovo even before they recognized them.It was so obvious that even the British representative who was the Chairman then protested. All this does not go unobserved by other countries. It seems that the USA is the one isolating itself from the real world community and not Russia. I feel its time to move the UN headquarters to some isolated island in the middle of the ocean where no visas are needed. Remove all Veto powers and make the UN a true democracy with one nation,one vote. Anyone who is not happy is free to leave but will face a cold shoulder from member states.
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Lavy 26 September, 2008, 10:09 Its no wonder the USA has done everything to undermine the UN. - politically. On the other hand all General Assembly sessions are treated as training grounds by those aspiring to be the VP's of USA.and those that haven't a iota of experience in International affairs. I mean it's pathetic.the treating of an UN General Assembly as a Domestic political training institute. It means that all other countries have experienced up and coming politicians
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tony 9 October, 2008, 23:55 this does not require a great deal of thought because the fact that the un building is in the united states and not on neutral ground already tells us that the game is rigged from the off,the only man who was willing to something about it was one of the earlier secretary general's and that was DAG HAMERSCHOLD and he was murdered when they blew up his plane,since then most of those members on the council have been bought and paid for the conclusion is that it is dead in the water and always was.
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Pauline 13 October, 2008, 01:58 I think the post World War II paridigm, of which the UN has been a big part, is dead. However, the global economy needs international institutions like the UN but they must be just and fair.the UN seems still to be controlled at the top by Bush/NATO despite the overwhelming opposition of its members. That will not do. Meantime, the morphing of Cold War institutions, like NATO, into petty policy instruments of George Bush does not work, so I'm not sure the UN can be morphed into something appropriate for this new world either??? I think the way the "west" handled Kosovo, and then South Ossetia and Akhbasia shows how very unfair and selfish the whole shebang is. I'm afraid for all of us.
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Elizabeth 6 November, 2008, 04:56 With the discord in the world, there is no possibility of usfulness of the UN. It's all talk and no walk.
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Aryan_Indian 6 November, 2008, 16:44 As I said in another post, UN (67 nations agreed to sends 6 billion to Georgian refuges and what about S.Ossetians? they freeze in cold this winter while Georgia buys weapon with 6 billion and plans another attack, sitting in their warm, cozy houses and S.Ossetian ONLY gets help from Russia, NO US,EU or UN helps Ossetians.
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 7 November, 2008, 03:55 Look all over the world - as usual - in Africa, for instance, you will find the USA behind the massacre(s). However the US must manipulate for gain or distract the world from focus upon US secret global agendas - the world's citizens are to US shadow gov only "collateral damage"; that is why the US/UN fake "democratic bodies" must be sacked, burned, and destroyed - just as Biblical prophecy promises upon "Babylon" USA "at the time of the end" of all their control, their power and their constant murders they have accomplished under their STAR-SPANGLED BANNER - the US flag OF TERROR... ...while the UN sits pretty in her front yard - Manhattan - her "other" Project.
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