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What do Russia and the U.S. stand to win or lose by confronting each other?
arnoldo 9 October, 2008, 23:34 yes,it is reliable but thats not the reason they still use it its cost effective. simple question simple answer they are cheap. wealther nations tend to buy american arms while less wealthy nations goto russia because they cant afford top of the line goods. yes russia has the largest nuclear arsenal, but there is really no point in having that many especially when they cant even keep track of them both russia and usa have been plundering some for some time now.
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Sam 10 October, 2008, 08:11 Well Rex first of all I have nothing to be proud of as Russia is not my Country. But I will give praise where it is due. Secondly my friend if you bothered to read the comment of arnoldo you will see what my comment is about and not open your mouth and make a senseless gibberish. arnoldo commented that Russian weapons are sub standard and I was pointing out that if a country is the second main exporter of military hardware in the world then obviously their weapons cant be sub standard in any way. Had that explain it for you or do I have to make it simpler for you to understand? If there is a nuclear exchange my small minded friend,you will find that the whole world will be depopulated no matter were you live. How did you know I am from the UK? Changing your name does not fool anyone:) Have the Guts to post using your regular name. Then again you do need to hide your ignorance. But taking your insulting way of communication, I have a feeling of who you are. Careful your Social class is showing. Arnoldo you will find that South Korea, China and Saudi Arabia to name a few are not poor nations but they still buy Russian do they not? You augment therefore on the price tag does not hold water. Name a weapon system and let’s compare them. Let’s start with SAMs Export models Russian S-300PMU against American MIM-104 Patriot (same generation) S-300PMU: Range 150-200KM, Patriot 70-160KM,S-300 can intercept targets at mach 8.5, Patriot mach 5.0 Kill ratio S-300 is 0.8 to 9.3, Patriot figure vary widely based on Saudi data its 0.8,Israeli data its between 0.4 and 0.7. The Truth is that each country had its own traditional buyers and the only thing that changes that is a better or same weapon at a better price. No matter how rich a country is, it will not pay more out of loyalty.
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sunnyukmarky 10 October, 2008, 17:03 Tony dont let these Russia soviet expansionist get to you on here. They have a hatred of anything from the west. They are from the Putin "the greatest global tragedy of the 20th century was the fall of the soviet empire" cabal, its a pretty big cabal of communist loving , Anti Uk, USA EU groups who come on here not to hold their own favoutite empire to account for its deeds but to attack the countries who dare to support Russia neighbours against its imperialistic tendencies. To use your words "they dont want to get along".
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David 10 October, 2008, 21:14 arnoldo : Face fact. The coalition forces in Afghanistan, like Iraq, are having their asses given to them on a plate. You will never succeed in these countries, even though the West has voiced brovado. Vietnam - you still lost the war. You lost public opinion/support because the public knew you were losing that war. As for the AK47 - I think Sam says it all, regarding this weapon and other Russian made weapons.
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Democracy Sceptic 11 October, 2008, 12:29 Tony, being much older than you, and having travelled through much of Europe and beyond, I can assure you that the everyday man in the street has the capacity to get along just fine. We are of course frustrated by the issue of language, but happily for me, younger people are increasingly learning English, enabling me to communicate with them more readily. If there are noticeable cultural differences it is more likely to be age related than a strong bias of political agenda. There is no doubt in my mind that the greatest division amongst people is the political environments to which they have allowed themselves to be subjugated. The leading developed nations are under the control of self serving career politicians who are motivated by their own dogma, or often that of their financial backer’s vested interests. They often act in a manner that is not in their own citizen’s best interests and often act contrary to the will of the people who elected them. As you are an American citizen, I must say that I was dismayed when your country elected George Bush as your President. The quality of this man is so removed from some of your earlier Presidents and I guess is reflects poorly on your current politics, where money dictates the ability of a candidate to succeed. I sincerely hope America will choose better next time. Looking to Russia, well you have Vladimir Putin (and his puppet Medvedev). This ex KGB individual is determined to ensure a minimum level of amicability between Russia and the West. His actions of late are designed to assure that European citizens cannot put behind them those divisive Soviet years. That progress in world business will remain frustrated and that poorer people throughout much of Russia will endure a slower progress towards increased living standards. The coming together of soldiers, who left their World War 1 trenches, to exchange cigarettes and photographs of their families on a Christmas Eve, before being ordered back to war by their officers, says much about the environment in which we all still live.
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M E 11 October, 2008, 15:52 Tony, in addition to what Sunnyukmarky said, there is another perspective. Check out your USA history again; we don’t always “walk the talk” when it comes to human rights and democracy and imperialism. So, outside observers conclude we’re just hypocrites. Since we also have had, for the past century, the ability to force our views on other countries, they resented it and therefore us. Add to that: many in the current administration, and with both presidential candidates, still think of Russia as “those dirty commies” and that we have to do our utmost to cage the bear before we are all murdered in our beds. I agree with you; US and Russia should be able to just get along. I really don’t want to see missiles flying through the air, either, unless it is maybe part of a joint effort to reach Mars.
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 11 October, 2008, 18:57 How can Russia stand by while US "families" snatch Russian orphans and abuse them! This is what US "democracy" comes down to: tear a nation to shreds; take their most valuable resources; hoard them; abuse them; and show the world they do whatever comes to their deranged minds and no one can stop them - so USA thinks - eventually there is an end to USA treacherous works! Whether is it a single darling Russian child put in the hands of a wretched American; or a nation such as South Ossetia, Cuba, or elsewhere - forced under the hand of a wretched abuser (USA) feeding another wretched abuser (Saakashvili) with US dollars and terror training armies - what can Russia do but defend her people and her neighbors, and show responsibility before the nations! What has NATO done for South Ossetia? Has NATO taken a responsible stand for the people of South Ossetia who have suffered US aggression, US coaxing characters like Saakashvili who is litterally "all tied up" in insane delusions of new power and wealth because USA waves a golden carrot before his eyes? Russia should investigate NATO and see that, in the case of drug trade, NATO is secretly interested only to take better control of THEIR drug trade to insure that their elite get their stash ON TIME in these uncertain and unstable economic crisis when the elite fear for their fortunes; and are contemplating suicide or better opium treatments to see them through their hard times (wracking their brains as how to better bilk the poor to cover for the rich's lavish spending - what next bailout plan for the GREEDY and powerful controllers of global securities turned insecurities. Russia must gain momentum and alliance with Venezuela, ME, other South American countries, .wherever in Europe or elsewhere.India, Pakistan, everywhere that nations are beginning to see the treacherous nature of the USA claw that once they called their friend - now they see more clearly the fiend! Take control. Don't fear the beast. Go like Cyrus the Great. Darius. Artexerxes. David. Jehoshaphat. (2 Chronicles 20! - great reading!!) See how that when the Creator is with you, WHO CAN BE AGAINST YOU! Time has proven these words.
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Huskyfan1982 13 October, 2008, 17:40 Let us hope this nuke war coming up will be just brush wars. For instance, if we nuke Iran, How could I blame Russia for nuking Israel? They have a secret nuke program and crying about Iran is hypocrisy. Then we(Russia and the land of the sodomite damned) can stand down and come to an understanding. I am guessing it will start around November 11th. Our government has been seized by Bilderberg, CFR and other entities bent on destroying our sovereignty and one day your sovereignty to bring on the one world government. I like the Russians on youtube. They are pro Christ and anti fag.
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 15 October, 2008, 01:15 RUSSIA!.CONFRONT UNITED STATES!.at the Geneva talks!. Russia! Wake up! Confront at Geneva (on Wednesday - today!) the reason WHY United States felt compelled to lead Saakashvilli into the villiany against South Ossetia!.with US-trained 70 day sessions for special forces SIMPLY TO TEST THEIR MUSCLE MIND CONTROLLED TEAMS on innocent South Ossetian CHILDREN! and their helpless MOTHERS and GRANDMOTHERS! Stop beating around the SATANIC bUSh! by quoting what NONSENSE the USA BLABBERS about their big NOSE.big LONG nose! full of LIES!.while US acts like big WATCHMAN of ALL NATIONS with a big righteous STIFF NECK over Russia! UGH! It makes me SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Russia! Lift up your voice and declare the UNRIGHTEOUS FILTH of the USA before the EU and before the Geneva Convention! This is your chance to put bUSh in his place! (Guantanamo, at least) Stop quoting bUSh's SATANIC mouthpieces McCormack and co.! They are full of deceit and falsehood! Stop feeding into US claws! Stop stooping to US POWER! Show the nations it is time to TELL THE TRUTH AND STAND FOR THE TRUTH! DON'T FEAR GOLIATH! (Russia, your slingshot is your word!) Take a stand for the people of the nations! Like Cyrus the Great did. Like Artexerxes did! Like Darius did! Like David did! Like you, Russia, must! for the good of all mankind! If Cuba and Venezuela can, so can you! Remember what the Creator of Cyrus says, "Fear not, neither be dismayed, if you be with me, I will be with you."
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Alexander sergeyevich 15 October, 2008, 13:18 Reading all the comments, it seems to me that one point is missed: it is not the relation between USA and Russia who is important but between Russia and the West. And the question is more about: does Russia wants to be come part of the West? USA+Canada and Europe are allied. They have differences between them but for the present and the future they are allies. You, Russians, are very proud of the action of your government in Georgia. Everybody in the West understands why you are proud of it, why you support your government, why you deeply believe that it was the right thing to do, why you are deeply convinced of all what your government has told you during this event. Because in the West everybody ( at least the great majority) understands why you , Russians, have this patriotic ( nationalist is a better word) feeling and we, in the West, respect it, you become for the West immediately our enemies and we absolutely need to prepare ourself ( all the West) to be ready to defend ourself against your next agression and , if necessary, to attack you when you will start a new war because we are convinced that you will start a nea one. Of course the West has done a lot of mistakes in our relation with you- but you too. Now we see that you are in the same mood as the Germans were in 1933-39 with Hitler as their leader: you are full of nationalistic passion, full of idea of grandeur - to built the new Russian empire, etc etc. You accept a total corrupt and authoritarian regime as the one of Hitler. You accept without any critic the crimes of your regime without any critic. And more you prepare yourself to war against the West with the goal first to reconquest ex-soviet territories, then to dominate part of Europe. Of course it is easy to understand - because of the lessons of the past - that in the West a great hate against Russians and his political regime is growning up. This hate is based on the fact that we will have a nea war in Europe in the decade to come against Russia - in case you don't change regime and attitude. Of course in the West we love Russians and Russia who have been since more than thousand years be a part of Western civilization. But it was the same for Germany in 1930's. Our ultimated goal in the West is to make you, Russians, be part of the West - in a respectful way, with all our differences which means sometimes we could be angry against each other. In the present situation, we need to prepare the war against you in a way that the casualties will be as much low as possible. Su Tzu teachs the rules of war in a broader way than Machiavelli or von Clausewitz. The best way to win is to have no battle, to make the other side to desire the peace. It will be during the next two decades at least the way that the West will define his strategy against Russia and Russians. We will renew the concept of containment defined by G Kennan in 1947. The difference from this time is that Russia today is not all Soviet Union, it is close to Germany with Hitler. Of course in 1930's a lot of West big industries made business with Germany - like IBM with Hitler. It will be the same now with Russia. Of course the West will be please to help with Russians who will be obliged to escape from Russia. BUt for those who support this criminal regime of V Poutine, they will be treated in every aspect of their life in the Wezst as our enemies until they change this political regime. And we will build our armies to be ready to defend ourselves and to attack Russia if necessary. Russia now is quite small and is totally isolated as the recognition of Abkazia and of South Osetia demonstrated. Russia has no part in the resolution of World crisis. China,Japan,South Korea, Taiwan, India , Brazil , Mexico and most of the countries of the World are in partnership with the West. China , by example, will never be an ally with Russia in a war between the West and Russia. Then it is time for the West to prepare this war against Russia because in the West we think that it will be the best way to have peace with Russia, to erase the level of hate that in the West exist against Russians who are creating the new conditions of a war in Europe.
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Aryan_Indian 15 October, 2008, 14:18 Yahshuah Our Righteousness you are absolutely right, American hates Russians, even if it is 14 month old child, 14 month old, Had fractured SKULL, and while that another American MOTHER FUCKER put Russian kid in the 120 degree F car for whole day while he was working and that Kid died in the car, BUCKLED in the seat, THIS is the real AMERICANS, as we saw in Abu Ghraib, I watched the movie, HOSTEL, Texas Chain saw massacare, and Saw I, Saw II, whatever HORROR they show, in those movies, AMERICAN been doing this to real humans, In Abu Ghraib, In Gitmo and now, OPENLY ANYWHERE IN USA, like NY city against defenseless FEW months old Russian Kids,. American hate Russians so much that they openly talk about it, forget the Rice and Bush, recently that AMERICAN BITCH was soo rude to Russian Athlete in Olympic that I was wondering why that American Bitch had to open her Ugly Pee Hole and try to prove that she is Bitch, WE all knew she is AMERICAN, she dont have to prove to be Bitch, She is American and that is ENOUGH to know that SHE MUST be a bitch, (BTW elena kicked her AMERICAN butt for MILES then what she was talking about kicking Russian Butts) Another example in Syncronized Swimming, there were 8 judges from 8 countries, and Russian girls got 10 out of 10 from 9 judges, while GUESS WHO, had to give 9 out of 10, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEIR UGLY FACED EGO, Ofcourse no guess that it was American Judge, looking at that event, NO one could have done any better then that, that show deserved more then 10 out of 10, while that American Judge should have killed some other judge who would have given 9 out of 10, if this was performed by some american team or may by that judge itself. So there we are, WHY AMERICANS trying to prove and show their REAL ugly faces to this world, WE know you are American and that is enough, THERE wont be any pretty about your face, it will be ugly so STOP trying to PROVE that your are REAL AMERICAN. NO Russian Politician OR sport person or scientist talks about AMERICA this bad, openly in Public, while AMERICANS sure does never miss a chance to SHOW their real face and proving the WORLD about their own impression that WHO THEY REALLY ARE, they are the same son, husband, wives, daughters of the people who are sent to Abu Ghraib and Gitmo and now we see them in rest of American cities too, not just in military.
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Johnny 15 October, 2008, 21:06 Russia and the USA can disagree on everything. but not this http://coolharbor.100free.com/debt/usadebt.htm Right now this is more serious than nukes in your back garden. Bush has broken the world's money. we need to fix that else there WILL BE WAR. Right now we need to save the planet, then we can go back to seeing has the biggest dick.
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Dave 16 October, 2008, 01:25 HELLO !! As written before. Immigrants from Russia to the USA are VERY welcome here and on the whole become great Americans. It is not America or Americans Russia has to take notice and consider with pause. LOOK South to the 1.4 BILLION human beings that reside there with their need for FOOD, WATER, LAND FOR CULVATING CROPS and space to pro-create themselves. This will not be spoken again. Take Care, Take Heed Kindly
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 16 October, 2008, 18:36 Correction: Aryan - my anger is mainly directed toward the ruling SHADOW US gov. The people of the US are mostly afraid and/or ignorant of the monster that lurks even in the air waves. Fear and oppression is over the land of USA; always has been (McCarthyism, racism, CIA, FBI covert, overt operations - LSD druggings, mental institutionalization of strong citizens who voice their grief.the list goes on and on. One thing I do not condone is the foul expressions that deride and detract from the dignity of the voice of the people. Mankind was formed in the image and likeness of the Creator; even called to be THE TEMPLE OF the CREATOR, HIMSELF! Mankind called even to be sons and daughters of the KING OF KINGS! This implies that mankind are called to be PRINCES AND PRINCESSES! Our anger never should CAUSE OUR MOUTH to sin; nor our hearts to be dragged down to the pits where the wicked rejoice. It behooves us to encourage one another with words of hope; words of wisdom; words "out of a clean heart". I myself do make errors to allow my own feelings to override the honor and the responsibility to express with the grace that the Creator has purposed us to reflect his HOLINESS. This is a daily challenge and we should always be a good example for the new generations. Abraham was an example we can follow (He is Hebrew, by faith). In response to the US of A Today: Don't believe A WORD these warmongers say!(Petreus says today that he will step back and consider the US war stategies) All the US wants to do is to get another foot under the table and trip up every sincere diplomat; every sincere thinker! It is time for the nations to lift up the voice and declare the US as criminals and US should be EXPELLED from every nation she has INVADED AND destroyed MANY with it. I say.continue to FLOOD the media with investigative reports, photos, interviews with authorities, civilians, and witnesses, journalists, cameramen, photos of South Ossetian ATROCITIES, Iraq ATROCITIES, Afghan ATROCITIES, Palestinina, ATROCITIES, and elsewhere, carried out BY U-N-I-T-E-D S-T-A-T-E-S O-F A-M-E-R-I-C-A, with their pathetic PROPS, like famous Georgian puppet, Tongue-Tied Saak-ed. The Georgian people WOULD NEVER have condoned the USA attack on South Ossetia. Iraqis,.and the whole Middle East.even the people within the Holy Land of Israel (with exception of Nazi generation) do not want the US curse in the ME! The nations are neighbors and brothers! It is only the propoganda machine that is polluting the air waves. Don't let up! Don't wait for the US PROPOGANDA MACHINE to INFEST the Georgian people and world opinion; the EU, the UN, and other bodies (though ineffective ultimately in key ways."unenforceable" justice, as the sadly powerless Geneva meeting concluded).in fact.don't believe their words that there is no enforceablility of justice toward the afflicted South Ossetians (Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians.) .believe the IMPOSSIBLE! You will be effective! .if you believe! The tragic events in August in So. Ossetia exemplifies how rampant is the power of lies and propoganda that US has mastered to accomplish their conquest of many nations; subduing many nations. But this is the time for leaders to challenge Goliath and to trust in the THE STONE that surely is HURLED into Goliath's temple! This time THE STONE is THE TRUTH! .And the STONE will FILL THE EARTH! Don't know about it?. "You saw till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and broke them to pieces (the EU "ten toes" CANNOT AGREE and cannot be melded together because they are so different of opinion - some side with US; others side with THE TRUTH, some are undecided). "Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together ("the [New World Order] kingdom is divided.partly strong and partly broken", and became like the chaff of the summer threshing-floors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and THE STONE THAT SMOTE THE IMAGE became A GREAT MOUNTAIN, AND FILLED THE WHOLE EARTH." Daniel 2:34, 35, 41, 42, 44, 45. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?!!!! (these things are for THIS time!!) If you have just a desire for these good and wonderful things.its a start in the right direction.JUST LIKE THE STONE hurled between the eyes of Goliath - the stone sent into the air waves with perfect precision! (David did not need the suit of armour given him, did he?!) "Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith." Habakkuk 2:4 HaiYAH And stop saying that David was MUSLIM! Stop saying YAHSHUAH is a prophet! He is who SENDS THE PROPHETS! Stop believing the Catholic Crusaders spreading "jesus" (zeus)lies. There is NO TRINITY! Yahshuah is ONE (Creator who came to the world in the flesh, to lay down his life as an example of the perfect Adam - HE created for his glory.in His image and likeness)! See Matthew, Chapter 1 geneology "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carryng away into Babylon are fourteen generations: and from the carring away into Babylon unto YAHSHUAH (Christ, the Messiah) are fourteen generations." Matthew 1:17 HAIYAH Believe and you shall be established. If you do not believe, you shall not be established." Holy Scriptures See DANnow.com for Days Ahead News confirmations.even Brother Sun is now flaring again to begin the glorious weapons of YAHOVAH's indignation upon the secret, vile US Dept. of Defense Sats with SECRET HORROR AGENDAS.but Brother Sun has been prepared for WMD AMD systems of PROMINENCES, SOLAR FLARES, SOLAR WIND, SOLAR CME's (read DaysAheadNews) to counter-attack with UNMATCHED ELECTRO-MAGNETIC SOLAR POWER! On schedule, according to Luke 21: 25,26 "signs in the sun" at the time of the end (the end of the wicked's secret technologically-advanced weaponry aimed at every nation). Brother Sun is our shining warrior that GREETS US EVERY DAY with LIGHT (from our merciful Creator who is WORTHY TO BE MENTIONED AND TO BE EXALTED.among the nations!!!!!!!!!!) YAHOVAH REIGNS!
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 16 October, 2008, 19:12 Alexander Servievich, How can you say that Russia is the aggressor who threatens the world with war!? Are you in solitary confinement? with US CIA bloggers? Do you not read the news? The nations saw how Russia, with minimal confrontation against US's Saakashvilli armies, stabalized the region after US-led Georgian specially US-trained mind- controlled experimental armies atacked South Ossetia in August 08. Russia is showing restraint. Neither did Russia do the 2006 Polonium attack, either, by the way. USA did, with help of mafia figures (well known leaders in Europe). It was US that led false-Prophecy campaign in 2006 to say that Russia must and will be destroyed just at the time of the Polonium "breach" (the supposed "righteous" reason to attack and destroy Russia, according to their CIA lying pastors of deceit, working with the Bush Administration.are you among them?). It was not USSR that dismantled USA in the 80 and 90s. It was USA that dismantled USSR behind "big brother" "democracy" curtain - staged only for the purpose to infiltrate and saturate USSR with CIA, etc. poisonous venom with promises to greedy politicians of wealth and power. But the spirit of the Russians lives on in the hearts of the people of Russia. That is why they prevail today, no matter how much they must suffer; as do all the Middle East and the area - because the spirit of the majority of the world's people is BROTHERHOOD AND PEACE.not the minority of SOLD OUT TO USA wickedness that USA has done to Iraq, and surrounding nations JUST LIKE THE ROMANS did to every nation, just as the ancient GREEK Empire polluted and subdued EVEN the Holy Place of the Sanctuary of the Most Holy around 301 BC.to "prove" their power".yet, what happened to them? The Romans adopted the Greek hatred for respect of sovereignty, yet the people, forced by their leaders, were not in compliance with the wicked leaders and they expressed their moral convictions! and neither are the majority of the people in the world today in agreement with the US-led Crusade TO RULE THE WORLD. It is that the USA cannot bear to see the meek nature of the Russian people; their abundant cultural roots that reach to many nations that surround the mammoth nation of Russia today. They love their children! They love their land! They love their neighbors! ( I am speaking of the majority of traditional people of Russia, as it is to most nations, outside of the USA grip). The corruption that happens to Russia and all nations - the USA is still ultimately responsible for! You know it was and is the USA that brought Hitler to power; who reflects and impersonates HITLER to this day; if you read the facts. It was USA and Britain that supported Hitler. It was Russia who lost the most people of any nation behind WW2; as they suffered unthinkable horrors in the effort to squash Hitler and his regime of terror - Hitler's legacy ALIVE TODAY IN USA! Read DANnow.com and "prove all things"
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Toney 17 October, 2008, 03:22 I would like to say that I agree very much with the comment made that the average man in the street has the ability to get along just fine with his world community neighbours. I myseld live in Louisiana, USA, but I have visited Russia twice and have a real genuine warmth toward her and her people. I have a good friend who lives in St. Petersburg and who I have known now almost twenty years. It is very sad to me that our leaders (USA leaders) are inept, arrogant, self promoters. I myself hope that the ordinary Russian and American citizen can look past all the propaganda and realize that we are all the same. We want to live in peace with our wives and children and desire a secure future. It remains to be seen if the powers that be will allow us to do so. warm regards.Toney
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 17 October, 2008, 14:25 Aryan, I did not say that - as you say, "Americans hate Russians". "Aryan" - Your vulgar comments are deliberate in that you take the Holy Name of the Creator that I publish and then you proceed, in your same comment, to speak with gross disrespect and defiance deliberately knowing that you have typed out the Holy Name of the Creator and (purposely?) attempt to include me in your ranting disgusting, vile expressions. I know the vile works of the US shadow gov. They have been using these vile tactics (their filthy smear campaigns) against our precious Hebrew Christian family for 40+ years. "There is nothing new under the sun", as Solomon wisely observed. When I refer to USA I am generally speaking of the leaders who perpetrate an exact agenda to promote a mentality through media and "education" (or miseducation) so as to accomplish to steer a mass American mindset (through mind control?) - to cause the American mind set to be numb, apathetic, complacent, DEAD-headed, or ignorantly incensed against other nations THEY KNOW LITTLE (truth) ABOUT. When I refer to botched American adoptions and abuse of Russian children - it reflects the prevelant American abuse of foreign peoples such as the Iraq nation Massacres of MILLIONS of civilians that drags on while USA remains entertained with sports, sports.sports (just as THE ROMANS did at the Coleseum!) .certainly there is reason for criticism of the "American Way" (to boast how great America is, while US gov is drunk with the blood of innocent civilians, victims of the EXPANSIONISM policies of the US gov, from their youth (1776, 1620.) when the USA "pilgrims," opportunists, and occupiers (newly named Americans) not only disregarded the Natives who were well established on the land - but they shoved and slaughtered the Natives (much like the "Shock and Awe" Storm Operations of the Iraq Massacres, Afghan Massacres, and in many other nations - that continue and shed rivers of innocent blood.all while the USA struts carefree along the boulevards like the Washington Monument, proud as a peacock because the stars and stripes forever is flying high like some CONTROL TOWER much like the days of Hitler MASS MIND CONTROL MADNESS. Aryan - remember, if you will, how the Romans, etc. derided and smeared Yahshuah as he hung, covered in his precious blood, on the filthy, Roman cross (the cross, like the electric chair - is not holy, like the filthy Catholic church secretly promotes their murder machinery, even as they did behind Hitler, and today - behind bUSh.)
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Harry 18 October, 2008, 01:07 First off, I should say that I'm an American, and that I'm a pagan. By "pagan," it simply means that I'm not a follower of any of the world's major religions--I'm an "indepedent." I, for about half of my life, was orignally a protestant Christian, until I became aware of how many people, through the ages, had been severely persecuted and murdered by "well-meaning" Christians. In all fairness, I should add that there are a number of other religions where the same basic stuff has happened, and continues to happen. I should also add that a great majority of us pagans admire Jesus.it's his followers that have been the problem. I also wish to say that we pagans make a point of defending all people of all faiths, including those who possess no faith ( atheists ), from persecution. That includes the Jewish people. As far as Russia and America are concerned, I believe that we have one of two basic choices: We can go on and on with verbally assaulting and attacking one another, and sowing the seeds of hate, thereby increasing the chances of our eventually getting into a war, in which the chances of thermonuclear weapons will be quite likely, which will end the lives of hundreds of millions of innocent people, including our beloved children and babies, or. We can forgive and forget each other's past transgressions, and start focusing on what we all can do to try to, for starters, get our respective leaders to find a way to making nice with each other. I, for one, as an inquisitive american, have made a point, early on in my life, to understand Russia's history--starting with the Bolshevik Revolution--as well as to understand Russia's culture, her world-view, and of course, her leaders. I must say, I'm deeply impressed by your new president, Medvedev. The fact that he's actually started his own video blog just added to my admiration for the guy. He strikes me as very forward-thinking, and even reminds me a lot of how our (hopefully future president) Barack Obama is. By the way, I know that many Europeans and Russians believe that we Americans are far too racist to elect an african-american to be our president, but really, we really have improved in that area. Why not do the same, and stop it with that "zionist" garbage, hmm? Anyways, I believe that in terms of their relaxed style of leadership, and their intellect ( Obama's I.Q. is 171 ), their charisma, their open-mindedness, and most of all, in their desire to somehow make this both a safer and more peaceful world, that, provided that Obama DOES become president, should provide the opening for our two great countries to finally make peace with one another. Should we be so lucky.!
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Robin 18 October, 2008, 15:56 Aryan you are not thinking with you head. Not all of use americans are against the rest of the nations and we all or not some dead heads as you put it. I have friends from all over the world and I respect, them very highly and guess what some are Hebrew Christians and I am Catholic. some of these people I meet while in the Military and we stood side by side. I know our Gov is messed up most all the people in world know that, but other Gov are also messed up, we just do not choice are leaders very well, but do not judge all of use for what or Gov does. And were do you get that americans "if I understand right)kill Russian childern in the US please get a grip. I know most of these comments come from men why do you not ask your women what they think, oh I forgot women in other parts of the world can not give there opinion because there leadrs and men do not let them, so what do you call that.
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The RABBIT 18 October, 2008, 18:56 We already have, have we not. Who put us in this fiscal situation? It shows the hyprocacy of the Imperalist Method of Free Trade which profits by explotition of the poor by transition of responsibility by the proposed representive Government that represents Democracy and Freedom who gave control of all finances to the Elite. If this happened in Russia, they'd be in prison with their profits given to the Federation. Americans are sheep, as Mr. Hammer used to say, just sheep who are fed better than most the world. Sheep none the less. Proff is in the pudding: Russia Won the Economic Confrontation and if it sides with the European Union, the USA is sunk. Currency won't be worth the paper its on.
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