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When the Russian Orthodox Church permanently appoints a new head, will he change its relations with other world religions?
Rikard 8 December, 2008, 15:14 Religion is in relations.
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 8 December, 2008, 18:01 Correction: Rikard, indeed, "religion is in relations". As long as the Roman Catholic Church is still standing in Rome, her daughters will follow after her because "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH"(Revelation 17:5)-even the Catholic Church-also fulfills this:"And the woman(church)which you saw is that great city(Rome, spiritually Babylon), which reigns over the kings of the earth", just as it was to "king" Hitler(the Vatican supported and worked with Hitler)-even with Jesuit priest scientists-to this day) and presently king George at Washington Deceit- see bUSh's FBI "Faith Based Initiative": the bUSh policy pays Catholic priests from US tax dollars to cover the court costs from legal suits filed against their PEDOPHILE ABOMINATIONS; Catholic priests who torture little, helpless, innocent children marred for life-physically,mentally, and spiritually-because of filthy carnal-minded protected by actual Satan-cult policies of corruption while they blasphemously claim "christ"-all with conspiring USA confederacy of lies, deceit and murder to destabalize nations and peoples. That's why we're here. To expose them and to destroy them(soon, by the spoken word, believe or disbelieve) which will trigger the Creator's wrath-on schedule. Take a look at Psalm 149:7,8,9 The bUSh cronies didn't kidnap our 7 SEVEN minor children from us in 2004 for nothing-and are still captives because of the same lying, deviate Courts linked with the Executive Branch-the same thing they did to the Native tribes, slaves, and anyone who stood up against their oppression that they continue to exert over the poor-on reservations, slums- silently, systematically, strategically, because of the Creator-connection among their faithful chiefs. .But to no avail, because-no matter what they do- there comes(the same-secret-Roman empire's)FINAL end-in the days ahead. We guarantee it because Yahovah has sealed it, with his word. It is time for justice to be shown and for the Roman New World Order to be seen as to who they really aren't.
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Norman 8 December, 2008, 19:47 There should be reconciliation with-in Christianity. Other religions need to respect peaceful co-existence with Christianity.
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Vijay 9 December, 2008, 09:57 Religion is a personal affair, and should remain so, irrespective of who the pope, or the pundit or Mullah is? Efforts to politicise it should be condemmed as much as steps taken to nullify it. People should be free to practise their own faiths or not practise at all.as the case may be!! Hopefully, the new Head of the Russian Church will try and build new bridges with other faiths.which lead to peoples' hearts, not their purses or political purposes.!
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Kolya 9 December, 2008, 12:03 Religion is a presonal affair! Quite right. I happen to be a convert to Russian Orthodoxy, though I live far from Russia. I used to be a Protestant, but found it lacked "Substance" with me. I studied many Christian belifs before making up my mind. I believe that was the right choice for me. It does not imply I think I'm better than any other person's religion. Every religion has their rightful place in society if they are possitive and promote peaceful behavior and love and respect toward their fellow man. Peace. Memory Eternal Partiarch Aleksey II.
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john 9 December, 2008, 12:38 It sure would have been nice if RT actually broadcast the full service instead of dropping it when the Patriarch reached the Epiphany Cathedral and thus depriving us of seeing the full service and burial.
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john 9 December, 2008, 17:06 All religions are tools of oppression. Since ancient times, religious have been used to help the ruling classes to govern, to murder, eliminate opponents, to justify atrocities. Latest example Bush and Blair. Religious have more victims than all wars, all together!!!! Religious believes undermine civilization and human dignity. Religious obstruct science and human development. They are the sources of most of our problems on this planet, overpopulation, climate change, pollution, divisions and wars. And frankly all these fantastic stories are crap. Apply rational thinking here – if there is only one true than why do we have so many fantastic versions of that true. Over 3000 fantastic stories in the US alone.
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Larry 10 December, 2008, 09:16 The new head of the Russian Orthodox Church may find it interesting to promote a relationship change with other world religions. With the competitive mess these world religions have created for themselves, I'm sure he will do so with extreme caution and not be tempted to blend in or change core beliefs.
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Dimitrie Cantemir 10 December, 2008, 11:01 Religion is designed to focus the people's attention and energy on a single, unchanging, uncompromising and invisible supreme being who allegedly created an inferior human race just for some extra companionship and love for himself and then supposedly foisted a set of oppressive and in some cases arbitrary rules on them, which if broken would be met with unimaginable punishment. This keeps the followers in a continuing state of fear and compliance. They are afraid to question the intentions of this invisible being and they are afraid of even expressing their own individuality in many cases. Christians and others are taught that they have virtually no power to do anything except pray, worship and do good deeds. They are taught to practice self denial and are told that their own will is totally irrelevant. Religious followers believe that they are yielding their will over to a benevolent cosmic individual who has single-handedly created the whole universe and has their best interests at heart when in fact they are handing over their will and freedoms to hidden groups of religious elites for the elites own personal gains. It appears that religion must constantly degrade and humiliate its followers in order to glorify and elevate its god. Unfortunately many people appear eager to give away their power to authority and seem to have a need and even a desire to be ruled and disciplined by it. Worshipping gods is futile and is nothing more than an ancient primitive custom practiced by weak minded and superstitious people. It has no place in the 21st century. The reason we have life in this world is to experience life in this world, not to spend our entire lives studying an old book, looking up to the sky and worshipping an invisible ruler in another realm. The main method by which Christians in particular are trapped and deceived is with the messiah or saviour story. This is linked to the 'original sin' story which is designed to impose a large amount of guilt onto the whole of humanity. The believers are then so grateful that they have been saved by the son of God nearly 2000 years before they were born that in some cases they abandon all reason, logic and good judgment to obey and worship this god and his son. Anyone who believes this story is indeed lost because to believe that a god would send his only son to help us, only to see his son get tortured and murdered, and then instead of unleashing all his wrath, simply absolve us from all crimes past and present, is pure madness to say the least. Where is the lesson for us in that? What has been achieved? There is no lesson or purpose because it's all about mass psychological enslavement and disempowerment. The so called god that we are expected to worship is undoubtedly just a dictator strawman concocted by the religious elites for the purpose of controlling the masses. If there is a Prime Creator in this universe then it is unlikely that he would interfere and impose on us by foisting his arbitrary laws, let alone need and demand our frivolous worship and blind obedience. Neither of those things requires any level of mental aptitude or creativity. The intelligence and skills that's been given to many has gone totally to waste. Many have lowered themselves to the pointless practice of hero worship. Furthermore, Christianity, Islam and a few other religions are polarized religions. They are polarized against each other. One is believed to be good and the other is seen as bad. The funny thing is, is that each one thinks that their's is good and the other's is bad. In most ways they're both bad. The only good kind of religion is a neutral and all loving one. Polarized religions have been devised by influential elite leaders to play the people off against each other. That way the elite can defeat and enslave the population practically without lifting a finger. Religion is like a drug to some. And they need a 2000 year old hero to save them - from themselves that is! The churches don't permit their followers to have any real truth and knowledge because that would empower the people too much so they spoon feed them kiddie stories, half truths, distortions and even lies and the followers value it highly even though they must spend the rest of their lives just making sense of it. The irony is that religion is pretty much man made, so mankind has really brought this onto themselves. The religious elites are not totally to blame because many people actually enjoy listening to mystical sounding stories, performing rituals, customs and traditions, playing polarity roles and dramas and waging battles against what they perceive to be a devil boogie man. They also have a secret fetish to be dominated and ruled with an iron fist by a supreme ruler or king. After all these centuries people still haven't learned to take back their power and start taking responsibility for themselves!
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Yahshuah Our Righteousness 10 December, 2008, 19:38 Correction: "Pure religion and undefiled before the Creator.is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself(herself)unspotted(uncorrupted) from the world(the evil influences presently ruling the world)." This above statement encompasses a very big charge- to be "religious" and "undefiled" in these terms, and to honestly claim to follow these tenets(while exposed to the CONFUSION of the Roman Catholic worldwide deceit), but "Pure religion and undefiled before the Creator.is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself(herself)unspotted(uncorrupted) from the world(the evil influences presently ruling the world)." This above statement encompasses a very big charge- to be "religious" and "undefiled" in these terms, and to honestly claim to follow these tenets(while exposed to the CONFUSION of the Roman Catholic worldwide deceit), but hear this: "the trying of your faith works patience. But let patience have her perfect work.(and) If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask(sincerely) of Yahovah, that gives to all men liberally, and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering.A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." James 1 Love is the reason for all genuine struggles. "Love suffers long(is long-suffering)" 1Cor. 13 You must understand, the Roman Catholic Church has made "religion" appear VERY UNPALATABLE and REPULSIVE, because the Roman C.C. is the "SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" warned of in Revelation 2:9 "They say they are Jews, (they claim to be representatives of the King of the Jews, they call themselves "Jesuits") and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." Revelation 2:9 This warning is REAL and ONGOING, the Cath. Ch. is GREATLY ENTRENCHED in the world, as we all should realize. See my previous post (the first one)and begin to try to understand the GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN man's religions and UNDENIABLE HISTORICAL FACTS that remain greatly esteemed and coveted(Russia's bloodline(through founder of Moscow Prince Dolgoruki) to Cyrus the Great WHO WAS SPOKEN TO BE OUR CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ALL ITS INHABITANTS, as recorded history PROVES, no matter how many deceived liars deny THIS FACT OF LIFE. WILL THE REAL Nation of Israel PLEASE STAND UP! (Anyone can make a claim) Nevertheless, USA does not covet the Holy Land for nothing; there is a great conflict going on that is millenia-old AND FULL OF GREAT SECRETS that USA cannot afford to tell; USA simply feeds Jerusalem with NUKES to hide her real desires TO FIGHT AGAINST THE CREATOR'S PEOPLE "SCATTERED AMONG ALL NATIONS" and TO FIGHT AGAINST THE CREATOR HIMSELF. laugh if you must Surely the present oppressors in Jerusalem are not that faithful nation; they are impostors hooked up with Nuke-King bUSh and all his corrupt cronies, from the oppressor-rulers of "Saudi" Arabia, to the sold-out props in the US-set up "Iraqi" government in Iraq to the US Capitol of Satan's Washington Deceit. First, understand that the centuries-old quack Catholic Church and all her new branches(evolved through the "Reformation")spelling the same word "quackery" - as fellers of the forest- cutting down all trees, great and small, in their path, to promote their agenda of deceit and genocide, from century to century. (Read Book of Isaiah, Chapter 14, if you will to see bUSh's "2020 Space Vision: on INTERNET: BUSH SAID, "yet we know this: Human beings are headed into the cosmos." .www.nasa.gov/missions/solarsystem/bush_vision.html)-NASA - President Bush Offers New Vision For NASA President Bush has unveiled a new vision for space exploration." Did Shuttle Columbia give bUSh better vision? WE SENT BUSH A FAX THROUGH NSA 9 (NINE) HOURS BEFORE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA WAS STREWN OVER BUSH'S HOME STATE OF TEXAS at 8:53 a.m. I had quoted Obadiah 4, days before -exactly 19 days earlier- at Bush's Anti-Inaugural, as I stood with my family, holding a sign, among the crowds, and spoke to bUSh, through his hovering helicopter sent to zoom in on us, so I said, that day of January 19, 2003: "Though you exalt yourself as the eagle, and though you set your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down, says YAHOVAH." Satan in bUSh is our arch-enemy; and therefore, "our weapons are not carnal, but MIGHTY" BECAUSE we trust in the Creator who sends HIS WRATH against his enemies, our enemies. Stepping back in history, since Constantine, the world has virtually witnessed only corrupt powers of "religion" hooked up DIRECTLY with world governments, conveniently, yet unfortunately so. Nevertheless, if anyone is to be accurate and truthful, then searching ancient history of Cyrus the Great is the key to understanding where the nations are today. Cyrus the Great is critically important to today BECAUSE-history recorded that Cyrus the Great was directly influenced and directed BY THE CREATOR OF ABRAHAM THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, as records prove. A written decree was drawn by Cyrus that Jerusalem should be rebuilt-INSPIRED and CHARGED-according to viable documents-BY THE CREATOR OF ABRAHAM-THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ITS INHABITANTS. To ignorant skeptics influenced by lying "historians" who trust in inaccurate denials of worldly "knowledge"(laced with gross lies)WRITTEN BY CATHOLIC JESUITS AND THEIR AGENTS, these our witnesses are therefore rejected as folly and insignificant. But to those who have knowledge of what truthful history records- even that the CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH APPEARED AND SPOKE DIRECTLY to his servants, and to the high priest in the Temple when the nation of Israel was (during Israel's glory days, and even to his feeble, persecuted servants to this day! yes, we claim to be among Yahovah's prophets-bUSh knows, as do his cronies, as Nixon knew and succumbed to judgments and words we speak)- hence- the activities of Abraham, Moshe(Moses)- the crossing of the Red Sea, the record of the 10 Commandments given to all mankind to uphold and cherish FOREVER; with phenomenal happenings; documentation of young David who overcame Goliath and later led the nation of Israel to fame, as did Solomon in his flourishing days' of Daniel survived hungry lions in his confinement, who later became second in command of the Persian Empire- and other "unexplainable" witnesses in ancient documents recording events that reflect the "faith of Abraham" that is so revered to this day- ARE WORKING TOWARD A CERTAIN DAY when ALL lies and their liars are "quenched as tow". As history records, Cyrus the Great(of Persia-since 1923-Iran) expanded the Medo-Persian Empire and set forth a human rights declaration(Cyrus Cylinder-Wikipedia) -these are not little proofs; but are pillars of witnesses; AS IS THE WHOLE CREATION, ITSELF- that YAH LIVES "HaiYAH" no matter how much the devil convinces the world otherwise.to this day, that things like Katrina upon the once proud "Voodoo Capitol of the World" is merely coincidence and not "an act of YAHOVAH". The whole earth will soon swallow the fact that The Creator of Cyrus lives! HaiYah! It will be sweet to some and bitter to the remainder; Yahovah's government will be established on the earth and his righteousness will prevail.FOREVER. If that's "religion" to you, then I say, "you speak truth" but don't throw our religion in your bag of man's religion, you will fail in the end, just like bUSh's Vatican't (be Christ's).hear this: "the trying of your faith works patience. But let patience have her perfect work.(and) If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask(sincerely) of Yahovah, that gives to all men liberally, and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering.A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." James 1 Love is the reason for all genuine struggles. "Love suffers long(is long-suffering)" 1Cor. 13 You must understand, the Roman Catholic Church has made "religion" appear VERY UNPALATABLE and REPULSIVE, because the Roman C.C. is the "SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" warned of in Revelation 2:9 "They say they are Jews, (they claim to be representatives of the King of the Jews, they call themselves "Jesuits") and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." Revelation 2:9 This warning is REAL and ONGOING, the Cath. Ch. is GREATLY ENTRENCHED in the world, as we all should realize. See my previous post (the first one)and begin to try to understand the GREAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN man's religions and UNDENIABLE HISTORICAL FACTS that remain greatly esteemed and coveted(Russia's bloodline(through founder of Moscow Prince Dolgoruki) to Cyrus the Great WHO WAS SPOKEN TO BY OUR CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ALL ITS INHABITANTS, as recorded history PROVES, no matter how many deceived liars deny THIS FACT OF LIFE. WILL THE REAL Nation of Israel PLEASE STAND UP! (Anyone can make a claim) Nevertheless, USA does not covet the Holy Land for nothing; there is a great conflict going on that is millenia-old AND FULL OF GREAT SECRETS that USA cannot afford to tell; USA simply feeds Jerusalem with NUKES to hide her real desires TO FIGHT AGAINST THE CREATOR'S PEOPLE "SCATTERED AMONG ALL NATIONS" and TO FIGHT AGAINST THE CREATOR HIMSELF. laugh if you must Surely the present oppressors in Jerusalem are not that faithful nation; they are impostors hooked up with Nuke-King bUSh and all his corrupt cronies, from the oppressor-rulers of "Saudi" Arabia, to the sold-out props in the US-set up "Iraqi" government in Iraq to the US Capitol of Satan's Washington Deceit. First, understand that the centuries-old quack Catholic Church and all her new branches(evolved through the "Reformation")spelling the same word "quackery" - as fellers of the forest- cutting down all trees, great and small, in their path, to promote their agenda of deceit and genocide, from century to century. (Read Book of Isaiah, Chapter 14, if you will to see bUSh's "2020 Space Vision: on INTERNET: BUSH SAID, "yet we know this: Human beings are headed into the cosmos." .www.nasa.gov/missions/solarsystem/bush_vision.html)-NASA - President Bush Offers New Vision For NASA President Bush has unveiled a new vision for space exploration." Did Shuttle Columbia give bUSh better vision? WE SENT BUSH A FAX THROUGH NSA 9 (NINE) HOURS BEFORE SHUTTLE COLUMBIA WAS STREWN OVER BUSH'S HOME STATE OF TEXAS at 8:53 a.m. I had quoted Obadiah 4, days before -exactly 19 days earlier- at Bush's Anti-Inaugural, as I stood with my family, holding a sign, among the crowds, and spoke to bUSh, through his hovering helicopter sent to zoom in on us, so I said, that day of January 19, 2003: "Though you exalt yourself as the eagle, and though you set your nest among the stars, from there I will bring you down, says YAHOVAH." Satan in bUSh is our arch-enemy; and therefore, "our weapons are not carnal, but MIGHTY" BECAUSE we trust in the Creator who sends HIS WRATH against his enemies, our enemies. Stepping back in history, since Constantine, the world has virtually witnessed only corrupt powers of "religion" hooked up DIRECTLY with world governments, conveniently, yet unfortunately so. Nevertheless, if anyone is to be accurate and truthful, then searching ancient history of Cyrus the Great is the key to understanding where the nations are today. Cyrus the Great is critically important to today BECAUSE-history recorded that Cyrus the Great was directly influenced and directed BY THE CREATOR OF ABRAHAM THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, as records prove. A written decree was drawn by Cyrus that Jerusalem should be rebuilt-INSPIRED and CHARGED-according to viable documents-BY THE CREATOR OF ABRAHAM-THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND ITS INHABITANTS. To ignorant skeptics influenced by lying "historians" who trust in inaccurate denials of worldly "knowledge"(laced with gross lies)WRITTEN BY CATHOLIC JESUITS AND THEIR AGENTS, these our witnesses are therefore rejected as folly and insignificant. But to those who have knowledge of what truthful history records- even that the CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH APPEARED AND SPOKE DIRECTLY to his servants, and to the high priest in the Temple when the nation of Israel was (during Israel's glory days, and even to his feeble, persecuted servants to this day! yes, we claim to be among Yahovah's prophets-bUSh knows, as do his cronies, as Nixon knew and succumbed to judgments and words we speak)- hence- the activities of Abraham, Moshe(Moses)- the crossing of the Red Sea, the record of the 10 Commandments given to all mankind to uphold and cherish FOREVER; with phenomenal happenings; documentation of young David who overcame Goliath and later led the nation of Israel to fame, as did Solomon in his flourishing days' of Daniel survived hungry lions in his confinement, who later became second in command of the Persian Empire- and other "unexplainable" witnesses in ancient documents recording events that reflect the "faith of Abraham" that is so revered to this day- ARE WORKING TOWARD A CERTAIN DAY when ALL lies and their liars are "quenched as tow". As history records, Cyrus the Great(of Persia-since 1923-Iran) expanded the Medo-Persian Empire and set forth a human rights declaration(Cyrus Cylinder-Wikipedia) -these are not little proofs; but are pillars of witnesses; AS IS THE WHOLE CREATION, ITSELF- that YAH LIVES "HaiYAH" no matter how much the devil convinces the world otherwise.to this day, that things like Katrina upon the once proud "Voodoo Capitol of the World" is merely coincidence and not "an act of YAHOVAH". The whole earth will soon swallow the fact that The Creator of Cyrus lives! HaiYah! It will be sweet to some and bitter to the remainder; Yahovah's government will be established on the earth and his righteousness will prevail.FOREVER. If that's "religion" to you, then I say, "you speak truth" but don't throw our religion in your bag of man's religion, you will fail in the end, just like bUSh's Vatican't (be Christ's).
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MihalMihalich 10 December, 2008, 22:56 Nothing will change, we are not Catholics to change policies every new Pop. Best Regards
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Susanna 13 December, 2008, 01:52 "Changing relations with other world religions" is a separate subject, it is in no way related to the doctrines of the Russian Orthodox Church. Obviously, the Church has differences with the Roman Catholic Church, and also with Protestantism. Not to mention, as a Christian faith, Orthodoxy differs greatly from Judaism or Islam. These facts are not debatable. HOWEVER, that said, Western Europe is overwhelmingly secular. Clergy, like Bishop Hillarion Afeyev, have spoken about the need for cooperation between Catholics and Orthodox Christians, when both faiths are under attack. Also, Islam is viewed as one of the traditional faiths of Russia. This is a different position than Muslims in France or Belgium or Sweden, where they are more recent immigrants, without a traditional, historical presence. Patriarch Alexy, in a time of incredible political change, was right to protect Russia from the intrusions of various religious groups into Russia. My own godmother had a friend, a Russian in Argentina, who was promised US sponsorship by the Mormons. Years later, she confessed and received the sacraments from an Orthodox priest before she died. The Mormons insisted on taking the icons out of her casket and throwing them away. Many of these groups were no better than Gogols "buyer of souls." Except rather than "dead souls'." they wanted to buy the souls of live Russians. Of course, the Russian Orthodox Church understand that it must deal with the world, and a variety of beliefs, but Russia should NOT allow missionaries. The secularization that exists in the West is the worst thing that could happen to Russia. No one, or course, should ever be forced to believe. And the rights of religious minorities, like Jews and Muslims should be respected, but Russia is Orthodox. If you don't like, move to Belgium.
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Bob 14 December, 2008, 03:32 This depends on the Orthodox Church as a whole. As for Rome. Remember they were once part of the pentarchy and the Pope was once considered the first among equals. So relations with Rome should continue for historical reasons. But ponder this!. There is a schism already beginning in the Roman Catholic Church among the traditionalists, who prefer the traditional ways, like the old Latin Mass and rubrics. and those who prefer to be protestant like in their faith and worship. This will be very interesting to watch!. Even for us Orthodox christians.
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Mikhail 15 December, 2008, 02:17 The new Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church should (and, I believe will) continue to remain true to the Orthodox faith. We are not Roman Catholics, nor, are we Protestants. The Russian Orthodox Church must, and will, continue to defend the Eastern Orthodox faith against the enemies of Christianity.
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John Warren 22 December, 2008, 17:01 Consider this- The great Baltic-German historian and theologian Walter Schubart (Western Man and Russia) predicted that Russian spirituality "will become Europe's salvation"! How you ask? Sobornisty which comes from the bottom-up. What are we waiting for? Putin embraces the idea as expressed by Sergei Ivanov!
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Mikhail 24 December, 2008, 23:45 Mr. Warren's belief in "Russian spirituality becoming Europe's salvation" is a nice thought, but a complete impossibility. Western Europe has become so secular that spirituality has little meaning there. Despite its diatribes about religious freedom and how important religion is, the United States is even more removed from any true spirituality than Western Europe. The populations of both are brought up on materialism and consumerism, especially the people of the United States. Just on this basis, I don't see any hope of the realization of Mr. Warren's belief. And, quite frankly, Russian spirituality is something that one really has to be born into and raised in. It is not something that is acquired. It also goes beyond strict religion and delves deep into the Russian psyche involving an almost mystical love of the Russian Motherland and her history, traditions, culture, and special place in the world. This existed in pre-Tsarist, Tsarist, and Soviet times. I realize that what I have said is vague and is open to attack from all sides. Unfortunately, I cannot explain it better with words. It is a feeling and belief that the Western mind and soul cannot comprehend. Probably, reading Dostoyevsky would help the Westerner understand what I have not been able to convey. (The Brothers Karamazov would be a good start.) In any case, even if one dismisses my above premise as babble, the fact is that the Roman Catholic Church has been an avowed enemy of Eastern Orthodoxy for a millenium. The Protestant sects are even more far removed from Orthodoxy than Roman Catholicism from a canonical point of view. The former has shown that it has been historically more interested in creating an empire on earth rather than preparing for the kingdom of heaven. The latter is no more than a "businessman's religion" that twisted Christ's teachings to fit in with the mentality of the mercantile society of capitalist Western Europe. No, I can't see Russian spirituality saving Europe or America. Especially, when the Russian Orthodox Church is looked upon as an enemy by the political forces of those regions. Mikhail
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Tomáš 4 January, 2009, 01:19 although Im a bit late, Id express myself a bit about the´west´and the Roman Catholic Church. I am a Slovak, we are mostly catholics. We view Russia as a friendly country. So being a catholic doesnt mean I hate orthodoxy and so on. I believe our country is the last quite living catholic nation. The media attack any kind of religion & nationalism (or for todays standards better said patriotism) (except islam :S) They promote anything perversive as a living standard. This is what makes many become empty people- empty-headed consumerists - parents of today´s children are stupid enough to believe that without focusing on raising of their children they will become good people, or I dont know if its just that they are satisfied, that they will give them food, cloth and nothing spiritually. Negatives come from all sides, internet comes in hand- full of lies, porn and so on. How can that affect positively a kid? Catholicism is growing weaker, because is is hard to be a practicing catholic (going to church itself is nothing). So it is easier, to say God doesnt exist.(or create a personal religion) Then when situation becomes grave, nonbelievers either jump out of windows or hang themselves. Those who believe will survive and it will make them and their faith stronger. Ive been to western Europe for some little time, including Vatican, what impression did I get? The faith is expressed by WORDS, singing and so on. Deeds...much harder to do.(usually something weird, as you are to do everything for yourself, not othewrs :-)) Simply said I believe western Europe is lost for a long time to come- if the crisis wont make them think about something beyond consumerism. Now Id say Ive heard some people had some visions of warnings that if we dont turn back to God, there will be coming something very negative. I guess its because we are last of the original Church and goodness wants its church to continue not only through orthodox one. The Church in the west imo is a shell of what it ment and is to be. People are fooled into believing into nonsense, this is why we today have the moral- as well as the financial,,.crises. Now that I finally go to work I see many people misguided and influenced its the Church that lied to them hundreds of years and so on. Now because satan´s US wants them to be nothing than an economical tool they dont understand, they only believe it is truth that comes from the west, which is something they have to get over.(which hopefully they will, once) Another point to be made: Slavic peoples are different to others, have feelings that the westerners dont understand and even if one is western and other eastern Slav, there is always something that makes us understand each other. (sometimes not suddenly, but there are truly things that western soul cant understand) Dostojevsky´s work would help, although I read only some stuff out of his works, he really makes sense about Slavs and Russia in the greater scheme of things. And yes at least I did not lose my identity and am overfed with the´european democratic, liberal´....´values´. Once in many years to come after I finish a university I will get to politics and make necessary changes if the world we know today will have something to do with world by then, that is cca 20 years :). And to all Russian friends, I send you my best wishes of peaceful New Year, hopefully remembering you and we believe and pray to the same Triple-One and that your faith (mine too) will be visible not only in Church but in everyday life. Hopefully meeting in heaven once or sooner :D
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Panos 8 January, 2009, 11:44 From my short experience in Middle East, i have seen that there are religions that cannot be mixed in any way. Mixing the religion in the foreign affairs of a country is something that not only has been proven useless but hypocritical and dangerous too, as long as the private sector is globalized in this extend and is acting as a "part of a country's strategic expansion". Internally, by embracing parts of the society with religions that differentiate a lot, in conceptual and practicing way, directly you lose the ability to homogenize them with the basic population, so any religious differences should be kept in a level of easy absorption and equalizing from the society itself. Again the head of the church should not interfere as it is strictly an issue of administration. It is unfair (and constant policy of the USA) to disrupt a country's character for a religious minority, with pseudo-democratic arguments, as I believe it is a minority's obligation to adapt and mix smoothly. A head of a church should stick to the roots and traditions. Everything else is against true democracy. To understand the two faces of democracy i give the following... From Isocrates: "For those who directed the state in the time of Solon and Cleisthenes, they did not establish a polity, which in name merely was hailed as the most impartial and the mildest of governments, while in practice showing itself the opposite to those who lived under it, nor one which trained the citizens in such fashion that they looked upon insolence as democracy, lawlessness as liberty, impudence of speech as equality, and power as prosperity, but rather a polity which detested and punished such men and by so doing made all the citizens better and wiser."
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joseph 8 January, 2009, 19:55 They are christains, that is all that matters.Christ said"In my fathers house ,there are many mansion"or a house divided against itself will fall"
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Stan 1 February, 2009, 21:01 There is an opportunity for the new head of the Russian Churrch to say Eauropean People how much they owe to the Russian People. It was not NATO but Russian People, who dismantled the Soviet Union on peacefull way. The alternative could be the war, who would destroy the whole Europe! I am thankfull them for it and so should be all European. By the way, Germans were not able to get rid off the Nazis .
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