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“Ban on Jehovah’s Witnesses is a counterproductive approach”

Published: 13 July, 2009, 15:10
Edited: 06 October, 2010, 12:38


There are at least tens of thousands of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia and, if banned, they will go into hiding and it will be a source of conflict, says Andrey Zolotov from magazine Russia Profile.

 
36 COMMENTS
Joseph Kasper July 13, 2009, 14:30 quote
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I find this report disturbing in that many activities of a religious nature are shown throughout the report. But these activities have nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. Come on! You show why Russia has such a reputation on the world scene when you completely distort peoples' perception of what we stand for. I thought RT was going to be fair and unbiased, but instead I find you slandering an innocent people with the weird behaviours of other groups. How can you claim to be journalists when what you publish is so irresponsible and inflammatory?

jill July 13, 2009, 15:20 quote
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jehovahs witness do nothing like what is in the video.....you have it all wrong they are peaceful people.

Gayle July 13, 2009, 16:20 quote
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Banning can seem like a quick fix, but for paranoia groups like Jehovah's Witnesses, it only 'fans' their fire of persecution complex. Like to a child, if you just 'ban' something you may just drive them to it. If you educate, inform that child fully, have him check the facts. There is so much literature and so much facts online now. Please INVESTIGATE thoroughly, independently before you dedicate your life at baptism to the Watchtower Society, the "spirit-directed (???) organization". No independent thinking is allowed thereafter. Then, all your thinking is done for you. The Watchtower Society at one time banned vaccinations, organ transplants, blood fractions and later okayed for their members without any apology for those that suffered and died needlessly. Could the Watchtower okay blood transfusion also some day? The threat of disfellowshipping, expelling, shunning holds their members abusively from using and stating any free thought.

Sergey Flores July 13, 2009, 16:30 quote
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I find that the "fear" of Jehovah's Witnesses for letting their loved one's die is an inaccurate description of JW's. Thanks to them, many advances in modern medecine have been developed in an effort to treat JW's in bloodless surgeries. In my experience I have seen more lives being saved and health restored than lost when treated with bloodless therapy. Do your homework and you'll see that more and more doctors are oppting to treat non_JW's patiens with bloodless surgeries because of the amazing recoveries from patiens gone through without transfussions. A cold and insensative portrait is not what I've seen from the patient loved one's, they worry and want the best medicine has to offer. They view 'death' as an enemy not as a friend, and plead for everything humanly possible to save their loved one's life. As far as being fanatics, anyone who has read the bible will be shocked to read that our lord Jesus Christ was brandded crazy, a fanatic, and so hated that he was put to death for doing exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing. Take a good look into the major religions of the world and compare them to the biblical gospels portrail of the apostles. Who then preaches the kingdom and the name of GOD? Who then refuses to take the sword-for war? People take pride when their youth's join the national military and quite possible die in battle claiming he died for his country and see nothing wrong with that, and yet the biggest of fuzz over a blood transfussion for obeying what the bible states to keep away from-blood! So it is more criminal to die for GOD than to die for your country? Who Did Jesus die for, his Father or his nation? Judge for yourself.

heinz thaler July 13, 2009, 17:31 quote
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...it doesn't really matter if they ban them. They will continue to inform people of what God's government will soon do. In 2007 there were 30 governments in the world who did not like this message, and consequently banned them. Yet, there were about 15000 proclaimers of God's kingdom in those countries. Powerful totalitarian regimes of the past, like Germany and Russia, have tried very hard to silence or even eliminate them, without success. In over 200 lands, however, they have freeness of speech to inform the population of God's government, which is part of their worship. In not even one of these lands have they been a threat to the incumbent rulership. One tactic of those who oppose them has been the spreading of lies through various propaganda channels. Sometimes the authorities will take an isolated case of someone claiming to be or knowing one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and use him/her as an example of what JW's teach or do. That's like pointing to Judas Iscariot and saying: "This is what Christianity is all about". There is a more honest way of finding out: Go talk to one of them or visit them at one of their meetings. As long as they have freedom of worship and assembly, their meetings are open to the public. Once they are banned, of course, they are held in secret. Jesus had prophesied the activity of two different groups of people during what he calls "the presence of the son of man". (Matt. 24:39) In Matt. 24:14 he saw a group of people making known the good news of God's kingdom to all the nations. On the other hand, he also foresaw another group of people, in Matt. 24:9, who are delivering these kingdom preachers up to tribulation, killing some of them, and making them "objects of hatred". By your activity, which group of people do you see yourself as? - Which group of people would you LIKE to see yourself as?

lea July 13, 2009, 18:03 quote
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July 13, 2009, 16:20, Gayle wrote > Banning can seem like a quick fix, but for paranoia groups like Jehovah's Witnesses, it only 'fans' their fire of persecution complex. Like to a child, if you just 'ban' something you may just drive them to it. If you educate, inform that child fully, have him check the facts. There is so much literature and so much facts online now. > Please INVESTIGATE thoroughly, independently before you dedicate your life at baptism to the Watchtower Society, the "spirit-directed (???) organization". No independent thinking is allowed thereafter. Then, all your thinking is done for you. > The Watchtower Society at one time banned vaccinations, organ transplants, blood fractions and later okayed for their members without any apology for those that suffered and died needlessly. Could the Watchtower okay blood transfusion also some day? > The threat of disfellowshipping, expelling, shunning holds their members abusively from using and stating any free thought.

John Wadsworth July 13, 2009, 22:45 quote
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The background video to the interview, showing individuals beating themselves with sticks, fighting in boxing gloves and gatherings where individuals shake and howl in some sort of religious ecstasy have nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses. For example, Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept as members anyone who boxes, because it is a damaging and potentially lethal activity, disrespectful of the value of life, so images showing fighting and boxing certainly are a misrepresentation. Jehovah's Witnesses do not practice such things, and having these images as background to the story is grossly misleading.

Shaun July 14, 2009, 05:13 quote
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Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult and they do none of the things shown in this video. In fact they would flee in fear from any of the situations depicted in this footage. This 'report' obviously had zero research behind it. And the guy interviewed was clueless. His wife got a Manicure and the Jehovah's Witness annoyed her with her talking her faith. How terrible.

Tomas July 14, 2009, 09:12 quote
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Ive had enough experience with Jehovas. About half of my class were them. Independent thinking is a big no no. They laughed at me being a Christian - interesting. (now they were majority so they could do what they wanted- according to their parents...) Once the brainwash is done, its really bad. World without their sect would fall apart, so they have to remain there. They also cant drink alcohol btw- one good thing. (not that drinking into unconsciousness is not a grave sin) As far as I know the base for their´faith´ is in Arian heresy which spread around 4-5th century and there were more heretics than those in true faith. What I love is when they claim that even when an atomic bomb would fall on them, they would be shielded as those ´chosen´, when real life proves them fall victim to even less deadly stuff. What I hate is when 2 of them come to your door and try to make you fool with what their masters teached them. When you look at their eyes their like automats thy start´´blablabla´. They are effectively dead. Because without free will they are either controlled or schizofrenic, when their sect tells them that if they trespass, theyll be expelled. When thery are taught that without it the world will fall, they remain between rock and a hard place, until they get somehow tired of it and see that this sect is not for them but for the sect and those who rule it. Basically theyre heretics and need to be brought back. They dont know it though. This however is the case with most of the sects.

Dan July 15, 2009, 00:35 quote
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Part 1: Watch Tower is a cult. Members do not know their history and are not encouraged to look at their history. Their history as is presented to them by Watch Tower is white washed and is made appear in a very sanitized manner. "Jehovah's Witnesses" are made to believe that their leaders - Governing Body - are chosen by God and are directed by God which is furthest from the truth. When facts are presented to followers of the Watch Tower these deny it, they may claim that was old understanding or that it's a lie. Most "Jehovah's Witnesses" blindly take their leaders word and will listen to these strangers rather than even give a hearing ear to their children or family member that have left this cult due to realizing the facts about it. Not to be totally negative I will say that many practices they have a good and moral but there are destructive mind control factors of this religion which make it a cult or cult like organization. When new interested person comes to their church (kingdom hall) the members make the individual feel like these are great people - many are good people but so are many other church goers. Now this new individual will study their doctrine and any new doctrine that the individual may not understand will be told to put faith (blindly) that things will clear up. New member doesn't know the religion's history as most members don't, but seeing how friendly most are and many good teaching which are from the bible the new individual decides to get baptized. Throughout the process the individual is encouraged to associate with witnesses and is also discouraged from associating with that individuals friends as they don't value the "bible" or they don't value "God's standards" and are therefore bad associate. So this new individual slowly leaves his/hers old friends and possibly family members who obviously are opposed to this individual leaving their religion of birth.

Dan July 15, 2009, 00:52 quote
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part 2 Upon being under this mind control it's very difficult to look objectively at anything that may not be positive in regard the leaders and actions by this religion. All the changes that the leaders (governing body) did in the past was for a reason as 1914 which they claim that Christ returned. Originally they taught that Christ returned invisibly in 1874 and that teaching was taught until the 1930s when they decided to change it to 1914 since 1874 was long gone and didn't fit with their sales pitch at the time thus 1914 became the new date of Christ's return. Today the leaders make it appear that initially early followers thought it was 1874 and were corrected, they whitewash the facts that the religion taught 1874 for some 50 years and that 1914 was to be the "end of the world". As this new individual let's say finds this out some time later he no longer has his old friends, possibly many of his family have been pushed to the sidelines for years by now and he questions these teachings which are of course lies by the leaders. The elder (church leader) will most likely tell him that these are old views and don't matter or that these are lies by apostates (opposers) which the members are not to ever speak (many still do) to even if these are their family. The individual learns more facts and realizes that the Watch Tower leaders are deceivers and doesn't believe that those men are guided by God - this is a big no no and the elders pull this aside and with a group of 3 elders question this individual. If the individual doesn't agree that these Watch Tower leaders (governing body) are guided by God this person is excommunicated and all the friends and possible family members who may have become witnesses since his joining now are shunning that person. They are not to say even hello to him, they view him as dead and an evil slave. Many children will disown their parents or parents will disown their children for taking such a stand.

Dan July 15, 2009, 01:08 quote
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part 3 If that's not a cult mentality I don't know what is. Here are some facts about them - btw the video above was wrong while discussing witnesses as the background video had nothing to do with this religion. original teaching 1799 - start of last day 1874- christ returned invisible 1878 - christ became king 1914 - end of the world ok none of these came true so.... 1925 - more biblical than 1914 will see return of Abraham, David and other bible faithful to earth that was wrong, but in 1930 a mansion *beth sarim) is build for these bible men and mansion is deeded to them but the president of the watch tower lives in that mansion while driving a top of the line cadillac, all this during great depression. 1930s - watch tower president struggles with control of groups so takes on name Jehovah's Witnesses to separate those who follow him and those that don't agree with him. Distances his followers from what the original president taught and merges all nonsense dates to 1914 as world war occurred and is a good enough excuse to keep 1914 and claim that end is imminent. 1969 - growth slows so 1975 is claimed to be end of 6000th year of human history and a very possible end of the world, many persuaded to view 1975 as special year, many sold their possession to preach more in similar manner to those prior to 1914 and 1925. 1960s - Malawi witnesses endure persecution, rape, murder because they don't buy political membership card in a country with one political party. Same time frame Mexican witnesses bribe political officials to obtain a military card showing they went to military with approval by Watch Tower - Why?? Mexican constitution forbid religions from owning property, Watch Tower claimed to be cultural organization before finally gaining religious status in 1989 right before government allowed religions to own property.

CC July 15, 2009, 18:55 quote
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Any one who lives by the principals taught in the Holy Bible will be a person who is a neighbor worth having around, so by wanting them gone, you are pushing away the best neighbor's, friends and law abiding citizens in your midst, those who actually live by the "Golden rule". From what I have read from the "haters" in this comment section, you "haters" are not following this basic "rule" so you are not proving by your attitudes to be followers of Christ, who would have never treated innocent people in such a way, or used such harsh, hateful words. Perhaps the old adage that when you point a finger at someone, there are three fingers pointing back at you, ought to make you re-evaluate your opinion, or at least keep your hateful opinion to your self! If not wanting to follow Jesus yourself, then at the least didn't your mothers ever teach you to have that common human decency? Stop being "disgruntled haters"! It just makes you look bad. Remember Saul of Tarsus who later became more widely known as the apostle Paul. He was at first working against Jesus thinking he was doing what was right.Your attitude shows you have a measure of zeal, but you are working against Jesus by your condemnation of those who are actually doing the work that he commaded his followers to continue all the days till his return.Who else is doing this work all over the world? You? Really? I think you'll find more JW's at doors all over the world than you. Look up the scriptures and think about it and stop putting so much negative energy into working against the Lord's work. Matt 28:19,20 Matt 24:14, Mark 13:9

cc July 15, 2009, 19:22 quote
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If I gave you your choice of fruit from several different boxes, say they were all peaches, and one box had peaches that were loaded with maggots, still another box had brown spots all over them and were dripping juices from the bruises and another box had firm sweet smelling fruit with no spots and no maggots etc. They question is, would you have a hard time deciding which box of fruit you would prefer to eat from? It's not rocket science, Jesus told his followers to stand back and really look at a persons' fruitage (or actions) before deciding who were the ones actually doing God's will. Read it in Matt 7:15-20 then ask yourself who acts like rotten fruit? Of course it's evident that Jesus wanted each of us to examine ourselves too. Because of all of the people who would claim to really be serving God, there would be many who would think they were but be wrong that's why you have to look at actions, because there would be some who actually were. Something to seriously think about, what kind of fruitage do we want to produce? Old adage: Actions speak louder than words! Matt 7:21,22

phyillis July 27, 2009, 05:30 quote
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Jehovah's witnesses don't have the truth, they deny the fact that Jesus is God. However the answer is not to ban their religion its for those of us who have the truth to start living a true life of obedience and really learn the scriptures so we could be like the bible says ready to defend the faith. The reason the Jehovah's witnesses are so successful is that the people they win over are not familiar with the scriptures so therefore its like the blind leading the blind.

Danny Haszard August 24, 2009, 18:39 quote
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Lifelong Jehovah's Witnesses dissident speaks out on JW belief system . A) They are at your door to recruit you for their watchtower society corporation,they will say that "we are just here to share a message from the Bible" this is deception right off. B) Their 'message' creed is a false Gospel that Jesus had his second coming in 1914.The problem with this is it's not just a cute fairy tale,Jesus warned of the false prophets who would claim "..look he is here in the wilderness,or see here he is at the temple." C) Their anti-blood transfusion ban against *whole blood* has killed thousands. D) once they recruit you they will "love bomb" you in cult fashion to also recruit your family & friends or cut them off. ---- Danny Haszard Jehovah's Witness X 33 years

Katrina August 24, 2009, 20:38 quote
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Jehovah's Witnesses are considered a dangerous cult in many European countries and definitely under investigation because governments are concerned by the mind manipulation, child molestation cover-ups, breaking up of families due to shunning, as well as other atrocities taking place within the religion. Victims of Watchtower hard-line organizational policies are speaking up to government officials about their experiences and they are responding with assistance.

Danman September 02, 2009, 04:18 quote
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I live in on an island of some 80,000 people. I know many JW's. They are not the sort of bad people the commenters portray them to be. I have no family like a brother, sister, mother or father, uncle who are JW's. These people are surely good people. If the world had only people like these, the world would be a much better place. Note to Danny Haszard..........."with people like you around, who needs more enemies. I can see a hatred for JW's in your comments. What have they done to you? Disfellowshiped you? No wonder you call yourself an "X".

Oresam September 17, 2009, 00:01 quote
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Do not believe that video... Jehovah's witnesses do not act like those people you see in the video. I am sure that video is product of False Region to discredit Jehovah's Witnesses in the beautiful Russia. Get a Bible study with them so you can see. :)

André Melo December 05, 2009, 10:04 quote
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The real big question is about freedom. Everyone can refuse the Jeohova's Witnesses beliefs or door to door job. It's really simple, just do not pay attention if you don't like it. Like everyone can refuse to see football on television, for example. When we talk about passion, love, beliefs, personnal values, nobody can tell to the others what do they could or not do. If you are concerned about the results and focus of our divulgation job, well, think about it when you see your favorite football team lose an important game. Can you ignore it? Can the government consider you and your favorite sport banned because you are very 'involved' with them? Will this be right? Respect, peace, love, bible study is everything that we do. Sorry if we try to talk to you and you don't like it. But think: must we be banned or arrested for it? Is it right?

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