Nuke rebuke: China urges ‘drastic’ nuclear cuts from Russia and USA
May 01, 2012 15:45
China is actively pushing the nuclear disarmament process forward, calling for the US and Russia, between them possessing the majority of the world's nuclear warheads, to “make drastic reductions in their nuclear arsenals.”
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A.Smith (unregistered)23.07.2012 04:49
China's been acting like it's locked in a dream of a fantasy world while goose stepping USA is marching to the orders of the Satanically evil Zionists leading Apartheid Israel and their spys infest the USA Pentagon and USA Gov.
What is literally certain is the world's stockpile of nuclear weapons is going to be serious depleated by impacting them across China, Russia, North America (including Canada of course), UK and tiny but utterly Luciferian evil Apartheid Israel whom much of the world hopes Russia will commit several of it's Topol 10 MIRV'd mobile ICBM's raining utter elimination to that synthetic UN Apartheid State.
While China's 3,000 deep underground tunnels will guarantee China is able to retain much of it's manfacturing and worker base unlike America which 95% had no such underground shelters and manufacturing plants and Russia's enormous bioweapons would likely then be filling the Jet Stream which sweeps across North America turning that entire landmass into a no-man's zone.
All the result of the Satanically evil Zionists actions, plans, schemes and agendas. Russia and China should be certain to reward them with rapture under huge mushroom clouds across all of Apartheid Israel
China wants a reduction in nuclear warheads held in by potential rivals? Lets get a clear picture of their inventory or military equipment and intentions for the future first, then consider what they are really saying. On another subject it would be good for the U.S. State Department to quit making high sounding noises to Chinese dissidents when they might show up at the gates of the Embassy and want a room for the night. Be careful what you ask for you just might get it. LOL
It seems to me, that China is getting nervous, because there has been a lot of pressure from the Zionist on Putin lately. Support for United Russia plummeted during the last election due to the catastrophic social impact of its policy on Russian population so they have to cheat to survive. Zionists used this raising opposition to the Putin's domestic policy to put pressure on him to gain concessions, in cooperation with the west. They Need to Get on Board the Putin Train, to completely isolate China. They stopped criticize Putin and Finally gets what they wanted. The Ulyanovsk and the joint military exercise are only the beginning. I cannot figure it out where this stroke of capitulation takes Russia, but it will make China more vulnerable.
@Donald.....Why are the Chinese self-righteously criticizing Russia when at the same time they are creating a $4 billion co-prosperity fund with Russia? The Chinese mostly definitely stand to gain from a Russian nuclear umbrella.
The Russians & Chinese have the same harsh historical reasons for stopping NATO neo colonialism as they did in WWII against the imperial Japanese & Nazi Germans............. ..So why are the Chinese posturing with the same old pompous pronounceme nts that the US & the UK are famous for?
To offer my opinion, China's efforts at 'noisy' diplomacy like the NATO hegemony are clumsy at best. The Chinese should do what they do best.....be quiet and remain enigmatic.
Negative Comments that came From M0rons02.05.2012 03:59
Obviously some of you people are simply mislead, so i will clarify. ("i hate mor0ns like slava btw") World can only sustain less than 100 nukes before the nuclear winter takes place. Right now Russia and US both got more than a thousand nukes, so even if they drastically reducing their nuke stockpile they would still have enough to act as aggression repellent. There is nothing wrong in China's argument in reducing nuke stockpile. There is absolutely no need for so many nukes on this planet. You don't need 4000 nukes to make all life on earth extinct, you only need around 1000 of them. Sending 100 nuclear missles and assume they hit all their targets and assume that we are not all dead at that point, a nuclear winter would ensur, which would put our entire planet back into near -20 celcius daily temperture, and that's not all. At that point, almost all animals will die. The ice age will last for more than 10 years. Those that survived, i don't know how they will, but humans are like cockroaches so some of them will, but i am sure if that happens and i am still alive and see a billionaire still alive and refuse to share i will kill him for his stuff. Ok. i digress, but the point still stands. there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to keep that many nukes. You don't even need that many to reduce everyone on this planet into microbs.
@truth Yes- ok, that's very true- life IS probably better than freedom.But what if China plans to do much the same as the colonial West or worse?There is much evidence to suggest that they indeed have plans, and the fact that they have not harmed another country for a while could be part of it- it makes them more trustworthy for one.Firstly, then, is the very real issue of China's need for 'living space'. Many websites contain an apparent speech by the Vice-Chairman of China's Military Commission, Chi Haotian addressing the issue- and in many words, telling of his plans for conquest, mainly of the USA, but most likely closer countries, like Australia and Russia. He explains the reasons he believes Nazi Germany failed in their similar quest, and offers solutions for how China shall perform better. Secondly, regarding Russia, A new Chinese bestselling book suggesting that Beijing will dominate the Russian Far East in the coming decades titled 'China Gets Angry' had sold 700,000 copies in three months in China, leading many to be concerned about how far the ideas expressed in the book reflect the views of the Chinese public in general. Written by five Chinese intellectuals, the book’s basic message is that China is destined be the leader of the world and does not need to kowtow to anyone. In discussing Russia, the book talks about it as “a living space” for the still growing Chinese people, and it pointedly suggests that “sober-thinking Chinese need to get rid of any doubt on this point: sooner or later we will be” in Siberia and the Russian Far East developing the vast areas that Moscow has not. I won't go into much detail on them- you ought to research it for yourselves- google searching for any issue on Chi Haotian's speech or the issue of chinese living space will lead you to answers. And according to these answers, China's plans are very cruel indeed. Never trust an embittered nation, with a harsh political system.
I only wanted to say China's is the voice of reason. However, with this country and its 3 allies, this cry may fall on deaf ears until it is too late. However, I must also add I haven't seen a thread with so many negative comments.
@Yellow Submarine. I agree with you on some point but you should think China is only taking Freedom but US is taking millions of innocent lives. If you lose your life then how will you ever enjoy Freedom. Thinks about millions of Iraqis mainly children who lost their lives due to US imposed sanctions and later after US invasion in 2003 to replace his former friend Saddam with new fully obidient puppet. Will million dead Iraqis ever taste the fake US freedom they are promoting for their " One World Order" for the Bankers and Rothschild family.Thinks about millions who were totured and murdered during coloniaism and their countries entire wealth being looted by tiny colonial powers of Europe like UK and France who committed far more crimes than China who I remember has not invaded any countries in last ten years but US, UK and France have not stopped in their Invasion and Colonialism under the name of fake Freedom. American population is now realizing the truth.
Slava and Whose: You both seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of China. The Chinese Communist Party is the first to admit that China is still a relatively poor country, but given their starting point 63 years ago from an impoverished state flat on its back after centuries of imperialist exploitation, forced drug addiction etc. they have made great progress. The Chinese were the victims, not the perpetrators of the horrific acts of torture and extermination that you write of, primarily at the hands of the Japanese. I would suggest you learn some history as to what happened in Nanking, Mukden and other cities. China threatens no one; it is simply determined that the times of colonialism are permanently over. As for the Chinese people being primarily atheist, this is a positive aspect of Chinese society that indicates an enlightened, scientific populati on that has been raised out of the dark ages of superstitious religious belief by the wise guidance of the Communist Party. Would you rather have it that people remain in the dark ages as in the US? And Slava, I don`t know where you get the notion that Russians couldn`t care less about China. The last statistics I saw showed that Russian citizens made 2.5 million trips to China last year; far more than to any other country. I also note that there are now over 10,000 Russian university students undertaking the difficult task of learning the Chinese language. It seems that more and more, the two countries are realizing that they have much to gain by working together as allies.
Why so much support for China, seriously? Just people looking to antagonise the West, even when they live there themselves... China is not a nice place to live, where human rights are much more abused than simply, in America, signing a bill to remove certain internet freedoms. The way of life there and in other Eastern countries is horribly cruel (in my Western ideological view I know!- though I'm sure morality is universal as in most countries, you don't just go round hurting people and animals etc.). IF there was to be a war against China (and that is an IF), I'm worried that many of you 'NWO/satanist haters' will NOT stand up to the threat of communist (authoritarian) Chinese rule and allow all that your forefathers fought for in the two terrible, terrible world wars, to go to waste. You will oppose the west till the end- the end being brutal death and torture by merciless Chinese- and it will serve you right. Yes, what America is doing is bad, but so is China and N Korea and all the other dictatorships. Make sure you make a conscientious decision, regarding whose side you are on, if world war comes to be. Maybe you will end up protecting your childrens' freedom- or maybe you will condemn it to Chinese 'communist' authoritarianism.
God Bless China. God willing China will end US, UK, France and Israeli Tyranny and eliminate this threat from this world forever. Billions of America's and Europe's victim will support China with open heart and help them destroy ugly face of Colonialism and Emirialism from this world.
Donald wrote in #20
The anti-Chinese posters like Slava et al are either knowingly serving the interests of the US/NATO/Israel axis, or they are simply and truly ignorant of some basic principles of geopolitics. The greatest fear of this axis is an entente between Russia and China, since this is the only potential entity which can ruin their plans for global supremacy. They will do anything in an attempt to sow animosity and mistrust between the two but they will not succeed. Russia and China are both smart enough to realize that, as co-rulers of the Eurasian Landmass (the Global Island), it makes eminent sense for them to ally with each other economically, diplomatically, and militarily. This process is already underway and will inevitably gather pace. Some recent manifestations are the co-operation between the two in the UNSC votes on Syria, and recent joint military exercises in the Yellow Sea. Such an entente will also inevitably bring in the Central Asian states and others as well. This would represent the best hope for a world free from the threat of the endless wars now being planned and carried out by the US/NATO/Israel axis. It appears then, that you would like to risk Chinese/Russian aggression towards the West. Going on the horrific stories of torture and death performed by those in the East during WW2 and at present, I think I would prefer a rule, authoritarian or not, by the Western powers than by the east. No death and conflict would be best, but I fear the thought of an even more ruthless invasion by the Chinese- their people are all atheist and notoriously cruel- so no chance of mercy if that happens. There is no hard evidence of satanists/NWO etc.- maybe America is trying to act for greater good, however terribly bad that may be.
The anti-Chinese posters like Slava et al are either knowingly serving the interests of the US/NATO/Israel axis, or they are simply and truly ignorant of some basic principles of geopolitics. The greatest fear of this axis is an entente between Russia and China, since this is the only potential entity which can ruin their plans for global supremacy. They will do anything in an attempt to sow animosity and mistrust between the two but they will not succeed. Russia and China are both smart enough to realize that, as co-rulers of the Eurasian Landmass (the Global Island), it makes eminent sense for them to ally with each other economically, diplomatically, and militarily. This process is already underway and will inevitably gather pace. Some recent manifestations are the co-operation between the two in the UNSC votes on Syria, and recent joint military exercises in the Yellow Sea. Such an entente will also inevitably bring in the Central Asian states and others as well. This would represent the best hope for a world free from the threat of the endless wars now being planned and carried out by the US/NATO/Israel axis.
Until the Satanically Evil Zionist led US Pentagon Operation Anaconda is dead and gone along with Israel/US attempts to steal all of the Middle East and African nations Oil, Gas and natural resources, CHINA should be building clone knock-off's of the deadly Russian mobile solid boosted 'Satan' class ICBM's equipped with 10 MIRV'd warheads each on a 24/7 assembly line bases and storing in the immense Chinese deep underground tunnel complexes.
Ch ina should be building and pouring out those mobile ICBM's like vehicles on a Ford Assembly Plant. The chances are extremely high that China will be expected to stand beside Russia as a warrior, not as a bean-counter. WW3 is going to be largely waged and won by wave after wave of ICBM's. The nations with the most ICBM's and MIRV'd warheads impacting their targets is going to win. WW3 isn't about surface ships which China barely has anyway. Russian and Chinese submarines will play some role in WW3 certainly but far and away it's the ICBM's that make or lose the day.
IF China sits back like they did in Libya and lose the Iranian Oil Fields, then USA/West will have the extortion of vitally needed Oil exports to China over China's head for the next 50 years. No way in hell should China allow that to happen.
It is utterly moronic for China to expect Libya, Iran to continue honoring the massive Chinese Oil contracts after both nations are attacked, invaded and their governments destroyed by the USA/Israel/West. Libya lost at least 10 Billion in contracts and infra-structure in Libya alone. It would be far worse if China lost Iran however as China cannot make up for the Oil Export loss of both Iran and Libya regardless of the faux Saudi Oil ministers pledges.
Buil d ICBM's like your very life depended on them China and do everything you possibly can to prevent the fall of Syria and Iran to the West and the hands of the Satanically evil Zionists leading Israel.
Tens of millions of Chinese are needed in the USA to replace slow thinkers. The average Chinese IQ is 20 points higher than most Americans. Quick minded managers are essential for solving the problems of mentally challenged cash register workers.
China has the worlds 3rd largest nuclear stockpile, dont belive the '240 warheads' lies. The Second Artillery Corps has never released accurate info or statistics about its inventory or capabilities.
amer ica iran and.russia are working together against china and want to slice up africa. when china says this it means give it up poptart cat point one at us and 50,000 right back.at you.
what you seriously think the drone saga is an accident? its like.watching friends the tv show. ok if you havent figured out everyone wants to contain china.
who the hell cant.blame them.
but question.
whe n government.changes sometimes it is not for.the better.
From the Article: He also called for all nuclear-armed countries tied by the Non-Proliferation Treaty to “publicly undertake not to seek permanent possession of nuclear weapons.”
B oth the USA and Russia (As the Soviet Union) have ratified the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. China has some valid say here as they have aceeded to it over 20 years later. The nations you want to look out for are North Korea, who withdrew themselves from the treaty. And India and Pakistan, as both of them have refused to be signatories to it.
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A.Smith (unregistered) 23.07.2012 04:49
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eli (unregistered) 02.05.2012 11:47
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truth 02.05.2012 02:51
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Donald 02.05.2012 02:49
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God bless China 02.05.2012 01:35
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Whose side are you on though? 02.05.2012 01:23
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IT WILL ALL SOON END WITH A BANG ANYWAY 02.05.2012 01:17
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Donald 01.05.2012 23:04
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