Democratic triumph: Islamists grab new Egyptian parliament
January 21, 2012 17:04
Islamists parties of all stripes have won over two thirds of seats in Egypt’s People Assembly, the lower house of parliament. The Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party alone will occupy almost half.
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Fools23.01.2012 02:43
Sladjan Pantic wrote in #2
I am really happy for the Egyptian people that they are finally electing somebody that will serve the Egyptian people and Egypt and not Israeli and American interests. God bless them. I hope this revolution spreads all across the middle east and people world wide oust their american puppet dictators and elect a real leader.
Als o, as a response to Vlado. Vlado, you must be Serbian and have some grudge against Muslim people. Well let me englighten you, you shouldn't. Islam and Muslims are not bad people, the people that were fighting Serbs in the 90's Yugoslavia war and the Kosovo war were not Muslims, but they were CIA appointed Al-Qaida personnel brought into Yugoslavia to destabilize it and so they can then build bases all over that region. Sel fless people you are................. .Cut off ties to the west and your aid goes bye-bye. You think living conditions are tough now in Egypt? Enjoy eating dirt and sand forever!
The problem with democracy is that even in a country with a high standard of education he who owns the media decides who will govern the country and what that ruler will do. In US election after US election the Israelis fund the winning candidate and then tell people like Bush and Obama what their CIA and NATO will do in the Middle East. How is America or Europe "democratic" when the voters have NO real say in what "their" leader does while people in the USA who they have never voted for call the tune?
HOW TO END ALL WARS --- ONLY ONE WAY
DARKNESS
Ben_C
“ I think it’s extremely foolish, even ruinous, to view
the world from a perspective which assumes away
"human nature"—in all its beauty and ugliness alike.”
LIGHT
Wars are the ultimate conclusion of what happens when people desire to enrich themselves upon the misery of another, which is evil, a crime in any fair and just society.
For example, grade school kids of migrant workers labor long hours in a hot dusty field earning less then minimum which enables everyone in America to enrich themselves by lower food costs. And while their eating the food, while their enriching themselves upon the misery of helpless kids, not one in a million feels a qualm of guilt.
So, before we can stop all wars, everyone has to have a desire to do only good, in essence give up our freewill and be a slave to good. Surely a thing Ben_C in his current frame of mind would never agree to do, for in his words it would be “even ruinous to... human nature—in all its beauty and ugliness alike.”
And so, either Ben_C of the intelligent middle-class is walking in the light, or me of the slow of thought laboring class is trying to get him to see the light.
DARKNESS
Jim Evans
“Why don’t we sit down as a human race and
come up with a better way of running the world?”
LIGHT
Above is darkness because it is an illusion of good hiding misery. For it is the illusion that the human race has the capacity to come up with a better way, which enables the 51% most wealthy to be the voting majority and under the cover of such darkness, establish a monopoly on the voting process, to hoard all the wealth and to impoverish the lower half of society.
For the job of we who walk in the light is not to run the world, but to change the hearts and minds of people so that they see the root cause of why everyone feels they deserve to enrich themselves upon the misery of the world.
For life is a free gift from nature,
which means that no one deserves to live,
which means that we own nothing,
which means that everything we have belongs to those who have less then us,
which means that most guilty are we if ever fail to give all we can give.
And if Saayid Qutb and Mubarak get the death sentence why aren`t the American and British governments for the past sixty years facing firing squads? We all know the west has been running Egypt and bankrolling its military ........so why are we now acting as judge and sanctimonious jury?
Why don`t we sit down as a human race and come up with a better way of running the world?
The City of London financed the Russian Revolution and I suspect Wall Street was involved in prompting the Arab Spring.......and it`s like the joke elections in the western world....
... a crude attempt to impose global capitalism and its crooked market forces dictatorship on the entire world!
It CANNOT work because it`s really just casino capitalism and disorganised crime ........and the whole of humanity is rejecting it wherever they get the chance!
Who or what are NATO and the CIA REALLY working for.... and DO WE WANT WHAT THEY ARE IMPOSING UPON US?
Democratic dreams come true...under MB flag. It is the choice of people, sure, but wasn't it the same "choice of people" in Russia of October, 1917, under Lenin's flag? "Russia needs Prohkorov now more than it ever has"-interesting idea. While the bandit-style "privatization" in Russia Prokhorov (+Potanin) swallowed in 1997 the metallurgical giant "Nornikel"(~US$ 7bln market price at those times) for US$ 220mln. Now he's ready to swallow the whole Russia. But it seems that Russia and Russians are not ready ...Those Russians...
I do not believe that the Islamist are stupid enough to bring in an extremist agenda that allies itself with outside anti-american forces to consolidate a Sunni Islamist extremist coalition. They may have some influence on certain social constructs that govern the everyday lives of some parts of the Eygptian culture, but one must give the Muslim Brotherhood some credit for their stadfastness, social, medical hospitals, clinics and education institutions, which are some of the best in the world.
This group is global and has adapted to a wide range of international ideas and has adapted well in a variety of circumstances. So, these people are not stupid or they would not have had the political foundations in place to capture such a majority of votes in a country of 70 million souls.
Yes, they may have a strict or should I say a disciplined outlook and world view, but what's wrong with being serious about one's mannerism, health, religous observance and work ethic. I, believe they will lead and lead smartly with a social program that may show the world how its done from a leadership point of view.
And, as far as getting ride of alchol, tobaco and drugs; so what's, the harm in that given the medical and physical damage these habits are causing the rest of the free world? Yet, in being realistic I, can not envision no group being able to stop something if the people want to do, no matter how powerful they believe this group may be.
They will adapt or be sweapt away like the previous regime, and again I applaud their achievements and hope they be more inclusive and international in their governance: their not stupid sheep herders blind to the outside world!
No boogieman here, so stop with the fear tactics and read more on their history before becoming an armchair geopoliticcal professor.
Democracy? This is a backward step for this and other countries. In reality though this must happen as the bible mentions for surrounding Middle Eastern Countries to attack Israel. Egypt was a stronghold and now the doors will be wide open for WWIII! Russia will join in the attack as the bear form the north then the red dragon for the east with it's 200 million man army! Obama's dream is coming true. A false Christian here to change times and laws as the Antichrist steps up to the plate. A traitor infused into the presidency of america and then setting countries in the middle east on the course to Islam the evil axis and enemy of the worlds today!
John Ellis:You said the early "Greek Church" was 99% Jews...it was not. Yes, the "Early Church" was 99% Jews. You need to upgrade from that cheap Chinese translating program whick makes most of what you say come out as translated english alarm clock instructions.
I'm guessing the Egytian massess relate liberalism to the western capitalistic notion that the tent is wide enough for any ideology to share. Given that Israel is welcome into the tent would make anyone worry while the extremists Zionist party has completly taken over the entire country of Israel as extreme pay as you go capitalism has smothered true capitalism in the good ole U.S.
DARKNESS
The Monk
“Islam was started in the 7th century...the
Crusades were in the 11th and 12th century...”
LIGHT
Up until the forth century all Christian churches taught a pacifist religion.
“You have read that it was spoken by Moses,
‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ I now say to
you, Do not use force to overcome evil. Instead,
whenever you are slapped on the right cheek...”
Matthew 5:38 IGV
Then in AD 381 the Emperor of Rome published the first Bible, which so corrupted the New Testament that all Christian churches started teaching the heresy that Christians must bear the sword for government, and kill in the name of God for government.
“A timeline of the conflict between Muslim and Christian / Western powers between 632 and 1924 does not tell the whole story of the relationship between Muslims and Christians. Yet, as can easily be seen from the actual timeline presented below, conflicts do play an important role due to the expansive drive of the Muslim empires. However, as can also be seen, neither the Muslim nor the Christian camp was always monolithic in their mutual antagonism: there were alliances between those who believed differently against those who professed the same religion, much like during the Thirty-Years War in 17th-century Europe.”
lutheran wiki.org Timeline_of_Conflict _between_Muslim_and_ Christian
DARKNESS
The Monk
“The early Greek church was made up of converted pagans not 99% Jews.”
LIGHT
Quite the reverse, for until the second century over 99% of all Christians were converted Jews who agreed to become pacifists. A short lived situation, for by the time the Emperor of Rome published the first Bible a full 70% of Christians were converted pagans. That is why the Christians stopped being pacifists, that is how the heresy of an eternal burning hell came into the church.
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Fools 23.01.2012 02:43
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Jim Evans 22.01.2012 19:49
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John Ellis 22.01.2012 16:05
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John Ellis 22.01.2012 13:20
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Jim Evans 22.01.2012 09:04
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Jim Evans 22.01.2012 08:57
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sa-sha 22.01.2012 08:22
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dyke davis 22.01.2012 04:57
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Amedeo Bianchi 22.01.2012 03:02
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I think the Muslims in Egypt will do good 22.01.2012 02:53
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Nay Lin Maung 22.01.2012 01:40
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The Monk 22.01.2012 01:25
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Bob (unregistered) 22.01.2012 00:31
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Russia needs Prohkorov now more 21.01.2012 23:40
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RT why do you promote pro liberal movement in Egypt 21.01.2012 23:26
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John Ellis 21.01.2012 23:07
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