Was Einstein right after all?

February 23, 2012 18:13

The CERN laboratory in Switzerland has found a flaw in an experiment that was set to prove Albert Einstein's social theory of relativity wrong. It will be carried out again in May 2012.

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Martha (unregistered) 02.03.2012 17:58

As ever, John very interesting. The tlricae I linked to does refer to your point, that the field was much more wide-open and undiscovered at the time of Einstein's breakthrough: It also helped that he was struggling with these problems at a very propitious time. Stephen Jay Gould has pointed out that the reason it's so hard to hit .400 in major league baseball today is that the whole level of play has been raised. In the 1920s and 1930s there were many weak teams, against which it was easy for top hitters to pump up their averages. Today though, there are fewer consistently weak teams. Batters have a higher standard against which to try to stand out.Einstein was like one of those old-time batters. Today there are thousands of physicists in the world, but when Einstein was at the patent office there were scarcely any 97 perhaps six full-time physicists in Switzerland and at most a few hundred in other major countries. He could take the time he needed for quiet mulling without too much worry that anyone would catch up to him. Oh, and I love the Albert, don't tell God what to do quote. Classic!!

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Larry (unregistered) 24.02.2012 03:21

Well....If Eins tein is wrong, they'll all just blame his Serbian wife Mileva Maric who planted the 'relativity' idea in his head in the first place. 

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More than likely 23.02.2012 23:34

the Bible and Koran God don't exist. 

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3rdbasegeorge (unregistered) 23.02.2012 23:17

All this rubbish is designed to deaden the hearts and minds of mankind.  Like the agent of disease, fools believe that with the power of information voodoo they can control historiography, through peer group pressure and the false security of assimilation and social relations.   Yet you will learn eventually to spend ones' time efficiently it is necessary to spend it on truth.Time travel forwards and backwards is a reality fro the armies of God.  Yet even time travel is relative to the independent volition of objects one can never omnipresently subsume.   Thus travel from points backward in time arrives in the  context of the independently occurring values of other parts of creation.   Thus the first vanguard of the armies of God arrives from a past time into a particular and independently volitive world.   Time travel is similar to the travel of the soul, in that so far one's departure and arrival occurs navigably along the space/time generated by one's own distribution of firmament generating people's.  Or else you slip off or crush through the indetermination of extremely similar objects insisting they are each others' exactitude.  Once established you can begin the process of acquiring all, re the wars of the Pacific People's which never risked capture of Gods' technology through relative inexperience of their indigineous footprint cultures.   Wars which raised the aesthetic ontology of the people's of the world and affirmed the worthiness of their acquisition into heaven,  Satan has never established sanctuary for the souls of mankind.  Satan is more likely to bodysurf through lunar collision  based on parasitic attachment to the agent of creation than to travel vast distances of time.

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Vlada (unregistered) 23.02.2012 23:16

Nobody likes banker Jews, Zio-Jews, Cabalists, etc., but Einstein surely was not anything of that. For example, Einstein openly disliked Menahem Begin when he appeared in US searching for support. The main bulk of ordinary Jews are also far from being delighted with bankers, zionists,...

1) Einstein derived the equation of motion with mass being dependent upon velocity from a theory in which light velocity appears to be (or, appears as if it really is) one and the same in all moving (inertial) reference frames.

2) Einstein set foundation for Quantum Mechanics (QM) in his Planck constant times frequency equation for energy of light quanta.

3) Einstein created general theory of relativity.

4) Even Einstein's opposition to the Copenhagen Quantum Mechanics (wave function collapse) is a manifestation of his greatness. He was stranded away last 30 years of his life because of that, almost isolated from the mainstream physics community. He paid a very high price for his opposing official QM, and shared the same fate together with two other greats of QM (Schrodinger and Prince Louis de Broglie). Einstein has never accepted the concepts that were not logical (for example, non-locality) whatever the price. He fought till the last breath even when his position seemed desperate. 

For all these reasons we must love Einstein. We must respect him. He went far beyond being a mere Jew, as he now belongs to the whole world.

Einstein is one and only, en pair with Sir Isaac Newton and just a handful of other guys. It is not his fault because some do make an icon of him (its because of their careers).

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David762 23.02.2012 22:58

From the article:  /-- snip --/  And it looks like they were a bit too fast to count the nanoseconds.  The institute has admitted that the speed reached could have been overestimated.
Ph ysicists say incorrect speed measurements could have been taken due to a loose cable connected to one of the speed-measuring devices, meaning Einstein may well have been right after all.  CERN will try to check that again in May this year./-- snip --/================= ==================== =============Oops!
I suppose that these scientists aren't actually using time-tuned fiber optics to connect various measuring devices, but (perhaps?) USB instead?  --  I don't think I ever used the excuse "that my dog ate my homework" any time during my education, and this excuse sounds equally lame.  ------------  Of course Einstein got it wrong -- faster-than-light speed AND time-travel are both possible.  Even I have time-traveled (, if I remember correctly)!    ;-)
I'm CERNtain that this preeminent science laboratory will get all the "bugs" ironed out, and then with the higher energy level of the May 2012 test may finally discover evidence of that elusive "God particle".  Breaking the speed of light might take longer, but the human race needs the promise of faster than light travel if we are ever travel to the stars ...

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art 23.02.2012 22:16

Einstein is another hoax, like Holocaust, that if you challenge in a professional setting, you will get your pink slip in two weeks. Einstein is another example of Judaized Khazarians sucking up gentiles' accomplishments, package it anew, sell it under their name, and benefit from it.
//Why would Einstein, with his training as a patent clerk, not recognise the need to cite references in his article on special relativity? One would think that Einstein, as a neophyte, would overreference rathe r than underreference. Einstein's act of stealing almost the entire body of literature by Lorentz and Poincaré to write his document raised the bar for plagiarism. In the information age, this kind of plagiarism could never be perpetrated indefinitely, yet the physics community has still not set the record straight. In his 1907 paper, Einstein spelled out his views on plagiarism: "It appears to me that it is the nature of the business that what follows has already been partly solved by other authors. Despite that fact, since the issues of concern are here addressed from a new point of view, I am entitled to leave out a thoroughly pedantic survey of the literature..."
With this statement, Einstein declared that plagiarism, suitably packaged, is an acceptable research tool.//-by Richard Moody, Jr © 2003.

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wayne rowland 23.02.2012 22:09

flaws like this open a pandoras box for time travel theories if the theory of einstein is to to be found with error could we then open our minds to understandings other than atoms and light bound by restrictions of laws.i think its ironic that a jew made the laws of science and also the laws of spirit (mosses) so concluding i think open your mind to things like the vrill society and buddhist theorys becouse there more likley to be limitless to physics .

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tom 23.02.2012 21:53

The speed of light is only the limit for the Archons, whom are Non-Organic creatures. Albert Einstein was introduced& nbsp;to the World attention  with the purpose to suppress and derail Nikola's Tesla Electric& nbsp;Universe who not only proved that Cosmic energy (Dark matter) travels from one point of the Universe to the other in an instance, which will take many billions of years for light to reach, but he also experimented with time travel assisting with the Philadelphi a project. Albert Einstein was a Zionist Jew who did not have the knowledge&n bsp;of what is claimed to be his inventions but the dark cabal published it using his name. Afterwards he was given a crash course of the theory to support it in conferences.  

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3rdbasegeorge (unregistered) 23.02.2012 21:51

The ability to produce thought is as much a volition as light, light is the outward expression of the activity of real souls in a particular aspect of evolution.  Therefore all volition is not explicated by the speed of light.  However, this does not mean that the theory of relativity with light as a measure will ever become redundant, either to speeds lesser or greater than light.  Probably another example of the inadequate stability of anti-semitic euro-centrism designed to waylay all other people of the earth, as flabbergastingly ulterior in motivation as the disgusting theory of Gondwanaland supported by glassy eyed Australian adolescents is all this hubbub.   Right along the scale of Hitlers' assertion that Jews have never contributed to human culture...

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art 23.02.2012 21:36

Why do they call Einstein "Plagiarist of the Century":
//Propo nents of Einstein have acted in a way that appears to corrupt the historical record. Albert Einstein.. wrote a long treatise on special relativity theory (it was actually called "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies", 1905a), without listing any references. Many of the key ideas it presented were known to Lorentz (for example, the Lorentz transformat ion) and Poincaré before Einstein wrote the famous 1905 paper. As was typical of Einstein, he did not discover theories; he merely commandeered them. He took an existing body of knowledge, picked and chose the ideas he liked, then wove them into a tale about his contribution to special relativity. This was done with the full knowledge and consent of many of his peers, such as the editors at Annalen der Physik. The most recognisable equation of all time is E = mc2. It is attributed by convention to be the sole province of Albert Einstein (1905). However, the conversion of matter into energy and energy into matter was known to Sir Isaac Newton ("Gross bodies and light are convertible into one another...", 1704). The equation can be attributed to S. Tolver Preston (1875), to Jules Henri Poincaré (1900; according to Brown, 1967) and to Olinto De Pretto (1904) before Einstein. Since Einstein never correctly derived E = mc2, there appears nothing to connect the equation with anything original by Einstein. Arthur Eddington's selecti ve presentation of data from the 1919 Eclipse so that it supposedly supported "Einstein's" general relativity theory is surely one of the biggest scientific hoaxes of the 20th century. His lavish support of Einstein corrupted the course of history. Eddington was less interested in testing a theory than he was in crowning Einstein the king of science. The physics community, unwittingly perhaps, has engaged in a kind of fraud and silent conspiracy; this is the byproduct of simply being bystanders as the hyperinflation of Einstein's record and reputation took place. This silence benefited anyone supporting Einstein.//-by Richard Moody, Jr © 2003.

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Alex K 23.02.2012 21:24

"social theory of relativity" sounfs funny. But, at the end, even the special relitivity theory has nothing to do with the subject. The invariance of the speed of light was experimentally proved by Michelson while before that.  

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3rdbasegeorge (unregistered) 23.02.2012 21:09

Should Einstein's primitivist assertion that nothing can travel faster than light be allowed to overshadow the technologically specific usefulness of his formulae?   I think not.  When you can travel in time, you still won't ignore the speed of light.   And the relative stillness of objects in volition through time will continue to develop the theory of relativity.   When scientific rhetoric escapes the dominant (male) 'show and tell' mentality it will be a lot better off.   Massive travel through time is the only non-satanic way to traverse geological reformation and lunar collision.

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Tim (unregistered) 23.02.2012 19:45

"Albert Einstein's social theory of relativity wrong"
Really? And there was me thinking it was the special theory of relativity.  Honestly, editorial quality has been plunging down hill at RT so fast its like articles aren't even checked.  RT articles used to hold their ground compared to the BBC, but now one can see who's articles are more thoroughly checked.

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