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Will it work? German email companies adopt new encryption to foil NSA

09.08.2013 21:31

Communications sent between Germany’s two leading email providers will now be encrypted to provide better security against potential NSA surveillance. Experts say the move will do little to thwart well-equipped snoopers.

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Altered States 12.08.2013 11:13

Maybe someone ought to tell al Qaeda to encrypt their conference calls. That's how this latest "Alert" from the NSA was found out. al Qaeda was planning a major..."someth ing", "somewhere" ;.

Imagine that. al Qaeda used a plain old "conference call" to linkup with their "associates&quo t; from around the world. Dummies! They should have used "stealth carrier pigeons"!

 

nagyelme 12.08.2013 06:31

"I can't understand the fuss about 'secure' e-mail services......The minimum thing you can use is send important stuff in a 7z archive with a strong password (AES-256).... If you are too lazy to learn the basics of data protection, you don't deserve the protection"

You don't understand many things. How do you propose to send the password to the other party? You are an arrogant techkie, people who don't know much about computers need these services and your condescending patronization of them is not helping to solve anything. FYI i am computer guy.

 

Kyle Rose 11.08.2013 16:28

Orbiter 11.08.2013 11:17

I can't understand the fuss about 'secure' e-mail services. Who needs such a service, if you have tools to do the encryption on the client side?

  


Yeah, so unfortunately, client-side encryption cannot do anything about the "metadata" : the SMTP envelope information or email headers. Without SSL, that information is in the clear and will be vacuumed up by the NSA.

 

Orbiter 11.08.2013 11:17

I can't understand the fuss about 'secure' e-mail services. Who needs such a service, if you have tools to do the encryption on the client side? The minimum thing you can use is send important stuff in a 7z archive with a strong password (AES-256). You can also use GPG extensions for e-mail clients like Enigmail. If you are too lazy to learn the basics of data protection, you don't deserve the protection. The same about people who write every minute details about themselves on their Facebook pages. You rip what you sow. Ignorance and stupidity will be always punished or exploited.

 

TrulyMail Support 11.08.2013 04:37

There are other ways to have private email. While some US encrypted email carriers (Lavabit, Silent Mail) closed their doors recently, those of us who are not connected to the US are still up and running (and completely private). TrulyMail is just one of many providers out there. See what options are out there and keep your communications as private as you can. Of course, we'd love it if you use our services.

 

R B 10.08.2013 20:10

According to Steve Gibson, at Gibson Resarch Corporation (GRC), It has been determined that simpe inexpensive hardware devices can forge SSL certificates. The user would believe they were on a legitimate secure connection, when it fact it is not secure at all. Only "extended validation" certificates are immune, as their fingerprint would be changed by the forger. But most supposedly "secure" websites using SSL do not use "extended validation" certificates.

See the GRC website.

 

Lingam 10.08.2013 16:17

"Of course the NSA could still break in if they wanted to, but the mass encryption of emails would make it harder and more expensive for them to do so."

That's a joke! Like the NSA cares about 'cost' or the number of bodies they throw at the problem. This is pure PR by these German companies, to keep market share. Ironically enough, this will actually work, as most people are 'sheep' anyway.

 

John 10.08.2013 15:18

Anything to make it more difficult to "big brother". Are there any encrypted email services in UK?

 

Lahcen Oizaz 10.08.2013 14:52

There is no privacy, was never and will never be. Get used to it. Best chances for a better society is the end of rule by secrecy. People all over the world must form their own powerful intelligence agencies watching and documenting criminal behavior of state powered people, organizations an instances.

 

mrVynes 10.08.2013 11:54

pity startmail won't be free...

 

Paul 10.08.2013 09:17

With the size and power of those computers the NSA use, i would say they would be able to de-crypt anything and everything in a fraction of time from conventional computers/systems that we are all used to.

 

Solveigh Calderin 10.08.2013 09:15

Maybe they just try to sell their "De-email" , what has to be paid and nobody likes to buy it!

 

Alexandra 10.08.2013 07:21

Germans are deeply unsettled by the latest reports...really? No, they are brainwashed allready, otherwise the majority won't vote for Merkel even if she makes poor comments to survellience.

 

Bryce Sutherland 10.08.2013 01:30

@Ryan: wrong. NSA can crack most anything. True, not that easy. Large key sizes of 512 for example is not all that easy. Elliptic Curve cryptography (ECC) is most difficult. But, NSA mathematicians know the tricks to cracking it. Some tricks are simple algebraic methods. DES, 128-bit AES, RSA, and the joke crypto like Blowfish are all cracked codes. More difficult is 256 AES with temporal traffic keys (public key, private key exchange) but they can do it. Safe crypto is custom made and will take a lot of time for them. Laws will soon outlaw it. BTW, NSA crypto is not secure because it is very old and out of date.

 

Tyler Chester 10.08.2013 00:50

AnonAfrican 09.08.2013 23:19

The core of the internet should move to Europe, away from all the meddling. Let them spy on themselves.

  


Europe already spies on themselves. Ask France and Germany.

 

Ryan Hellyer 10.08.2013 00:39

The NSA most definitely do not have the ability to crack SSL. They simply have means to work around it in some situations, but cracking SSL is not viable for anyone right now and probably won't be viable within any of our lifetimes.

 

Momchil 10.08.2013 00:06

196 countries in the world are being held hostage by 2 rogue police states? Something is definitely wrong with this scenario..

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