Could have been a drone.! It,s 2012 it,s not beyond capibility, or possibility. Remember the plans for Cuba.included shooting down civilian airliners. The use of decoy aircraft and drones. That was in 1962, Kennedy would,nt sign the idea off, it was a plan drawn up by the National Security Council and signed by L.L. Leminster. Its called the Northwoods Document and its in the public domain. As is "Operation Ajax" and "Operation Clyclops". It,s what America does.!!!

'TEST' FAIL

red fang (unregistered) wrote in #8mmmmm....it was shot upon leaving the syrian air space....it was shot in international air space....mmm...last i heard is that it fell some 10km away from a vilage in syria. And syrian air space extend about 12-24km from the shore to waters. Yup, it was defelinly shot ''inside'' syrian air space. Please mr FM, dont manipulate the data, we not stupid!......FM trying to cook up justifications...ofc os, he wont say ''yes, it was spying in syria,yes, uncle sam sent me''. Testing a domesticaly produced radar system? No, u were testing the recently installed Russian radars in syria. Now you got results of your tests. Bye mr FM.well said, if Russia goes to WAR we going as well

From what I read: Plan A; use F4 drones to test airdefense for a friendly NATO visit later, Plan B, use Turkey as the legit front to beg for NATO help, so NATO has option to avenge the pain of a ‘muslim’ ally.  (not likely NATO will, timing isn’t right); Plan C – US and Brits to shape global media to show how crazy Syria is (and the more intelligent NATO keep mumb, China advise calm, Russia tells US not to try).  Plan D – NATO pressure for arms embargo (Russian equipment were used), to prepare for next Libya re-play.

So what about the two pilots - the Turks are VERY SILENT?!!  So it was a deliberate drone after all. Good, the devils are coming out into the open light, very soon we will get a chance to put a finger up a jews and turks a** , and once the devils are in the open light, they wont be able to do anything about it.

Its really sad to see these many war freaks and retarded people here. In 2012, Turkey's airspace violated over than 100 times so is it right to shoot down them all? First you are obligated to use radio to tell the intruders leave the airspace. Did they use radio? NO! Anyway, What Syria is doing a classic Baas provacation.

Just chill out guys. War could not bring any happiness to us.

Saying things for the media to make it seem that there is some sort of autonomy and freedom of opinion in the Western US dominated hemisphere is one thing, acting accordingly and resolutely to what you say is another. Fake crocodile tears never imprsessed me. Under US puppet Erdogan, Turkey tries to depict itself as the defender of Palestine and the Arab cause, but it never imposed any sanctions against Israel, still retaines diplomatic relations with the Zionist state and it still has not recognised Palestinian independence. On the other hand it joined the "effort" of its western  masters in the US/NATO military aggression and occupation of Libya after pretending to be opposed. When Turkey will start meaning what it says and doing what it says I may be convinced at its good intentions. For the rest it can just as welkl go to hell with its evil US master.  Sadi (unregistered) wrote in #12 Turk (unregistered) wrote in #6 The very same Turkish government opposed military intervention to Libya, gave up only after French jets attacked Libyan territory. Turkish Congress did not pass proposals authorizing use of its soil by US army for logistics necessary for Iraq invasion in 2003. Turkish Government was the only Muslim country opposing to sanctions against Iran on United Nations despite facing scrutiny fr om Western Allies. Now, everyone blames Turkey for being a puppet of West. Even some of you blame Turkey for being Zionist although 9 of its citizens just murdered by IAF in international waters just 1 year ago.  I respect your facts. But if NATO didn't respect TURKEY's suggestions for not invading IRAQ or LIBYA  then i think TURKEY should withdraw its name from NATO members. Why join such a group who doesnt respect you. And why do consult with them who don't hear your suggestions. ITs such a shame for TURKEY. And why they are helping the SYRIAN rebels ? You know that ISRAEL has been trying to destroy SYRIA for many years. By helping the SYRIAN rebels they are fulfilling the wishes of ISRAEL.  Thats why TURKEY is called ZIONIST puppets. 

Kwame made a very good point here. To tell you the truth this thing of Turkey still using a clumsy old relic of the cold war like the F4 was confusing me even because I know that the Turkish military has just bought a batch of the latest  version of the US F16 fighter jets. But now there is an explanation thanks to Kwame and a very sensible one. Why haven't the Turkish government published the named and photos of the missing pilots yet? Something stinks here and it apppears that the origin of the stench points as usual to the US.

Richard (unregistered) wrote in #15

If you want peace then you have to behave accordingly. 
If you want war then NATO artticle 5 applies.
You seem to want war when it is convenient and peace when it is not.  Life doesn't work that way.

Si nce you people seem to be best at fighting your wars in peacetime and crawl into somebodies kitchen cupboard (before selling them out )  when things get rough, it might be unwise to accept your concept of war and peace on face value.Your peace probably means something quite different to the people of Houla than it does to the average parasitic economical criminal.I think you just have to accept that no matter what NATO  tells you.

Tony (unregistered) wrote in #13
With out a warning and just to openfire is against the rule like it or not.They shouted three times "Go back" before they fired.What rule applies to tranning and arming psychopaths to ritually slaughter Syrian women and children for television coverage?Let's first make a rule for that and then bother about provocateurs trying to steer up war.

Geronimo O.K. wrote in #14
Koos (unregistered) wrote in #3
Russian military planes are a common site in Baltic and Scandinavian airspace. It happens ~20 times a year. How would you Russia fanboys react if the Estonians shoot one of them down? Why would the Estonians should down a plane of a country they are not actually at war with. That would be silly. If Russia was actually at war with Estonia, like Syria is with Turkey, it would be quite a different matter, I am sure.You keep forgetting Syria and Turkey are engaged in a fighting war. Do you suffer from dementia?

If you want peace then you have to behave accordingly. 
If you want war then NATO artticle 5 applies.
You seem to want war when it is convenient and peace when it is not.  Life doesn't work that way.

Koos (unregistered) wrote in #3
Russian military planes are a common site in Baltic and Scandinavian airspace. It happens ~20 times a year. How would you Russia fanboys react if the Estonians shoot one of them down? Why would the Estonians should down a plane of a country they are not actually at war with. That would be silly. If Russia was actually at war with Estonia, like Syria is with Turkey, it would be quite a different matter, I am sure.You keep forgetting Syria and Turkey are engaged in a fighting war. Do you suffer from dementia?

wesley (unregistered) wrote in #4
"the attack happened without warning in violation of international law" In times of war you don't sent warnings to enemy planes that enter your air space and Turkey choose to be at war with Syria.They are to treacherous to declare it but they most definitely are.

Ye,s more rats have deserted the sinking ship and defected to Turkey. This is becoming a serious embarressment to Syria.

Over 33,000 Syrian solders have fled to Turkey now. Bravo! Assad is finished. Well done!

Indian Muslim (unregistered) wrote in #16
Hey Richard, are you working for Zionist Saudi monarch to mislead Muslims or non-Muslims here? The poster from Iran is right about Illuminati secret society who use the policy of "divide and rule" on humanity, what is your point?
Your post drips with paranoia and totalitarian syndrome.  Dictators and secret societies draw there power from people.  Even a corrupt thug like Maher can not kill 20,000 people by himself.  Your secret society is a paranoid delusion because it lacks sufficiently broad support to have a meaningful effect.  It may as well be a secret meeting of hand puppets in your basement.  or maybe it already is.

23 ofcos, and thats not all as i have noted... Including an army general, leutenant... Remember the other one that defected with the MIG25 a week ago? Thats a big blow to Assad. And, dont look at 23 as a smal number, any idea how many are in the FSA that defected from the syrian army,,,,thats a lot of soldiers. With that said, im guessing Assad is left with just a hand full army...say 1000. Or even les. As for iraq, nah, they cnt even see a fly pass on their face, so count them off. Iran...maybe. But iran cnt do a thing when Assad has already 0 soldiers....its a waste of time. Army generals gone, they have taken a lots of informmation with them to the FSA...that wil be used to counter Assad's assault. I wil stick to my first words; Bashar Al assad is FÙ*keD!..... And my comments arent ''useles and self serving''. dont bother answer me if thing my saying is any of that nature!

I have seen your useless and self serving comment on the blog about the newly discovered British torture camp inside Iraq. Now, 23 soldiers means little to Syria. The country has strong army. Turkey is sowing the seeds of its own destruction. Iran, Iraq are watching closely what Turkey is doing to Syria. Turkey itself is an ethnic power cake. Do you think the evil it sends across the border to Syria will come to visit Turkey? Turkey will pay its evil ways by other means such as lost tourism. Turkey is going to be affected by the very destabilizing agenda it so early seeks to ignite in Syria. Turkey is working with Israel and the U.S to destroy a strong Arab country and this is the basic point.

Bashar Al Assad is really £ucked! I heard an army general, two majors and some 23 soldiers and leutenants defected to Turkey yesterday. Look on the news-bulletin. Im guesing that the saudi's pay cheque has has something to do with it. Generals realised being payd in euros and dolars must be yummy....then threw a towel in Assad's face. I think assad wont win this one. Its getting out of control. Libya 2.0. Lots of defectors. Im starting to think that u really cnt trust military people as a defender of a country.