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Moscow in no rush to respond to Donetsk People's Republic plea for accession

12.05.2014 22:27

Russia is taking its time before reacting to Donetsk People's Republic’s plea to consider its accession into Russia while calling for dialogue between Kiev and the eastern regions.

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Victor Yeung 14.05.2014 18:57

The grand plan is in motion. Look on Eastern Europe, this will be your fate if you entrust your finances and economy to the crooks/fascist/nazi' s in Washington and the EU. The Eurasian trade zone will be next page in global commerce which is built upon a better and open platform for all the countries to participate in. Welcome to the New World.

 

Raymond Dillon 14.05.2014 15:48

Great move Russia, let the junta in Kiev stew in it's own fat, Putin and the Duma is already six steps ahead of the fools in Kiev.
Russia has bigger Fish to fry, the fact that Russia hasn't responded officialy to recent events is actually bad news for the junta , it means that Russia intends to take them all down, and the tool Russia will use? Well of course the IMF austerity programs, Russia is waiting for the bailout money to run out and the IMF programs to chip in , then it will be good bye Fascismo.

 

Regula 14.05.2014 13:09

The referendum was a vote for independence, which the people want to get away from the crooks in Kiev. Independence makes the Kiev military and other militia troops invaders and occupiers. Donbass region has a right to chase them out - if they can. The fear is that Kiev will by force prevent independence. In this dilemma Donbass appealed to join Russia. Any doing so would result in extreme sanctions on Russia at this point. However, if Kiev remains intransigent to negotiations and federalization of Ukraine, it will be another matter and Kiev's military can be chased out by Russia without US intervention.

 

Wonron Kukumbachi 14.05.2014 12:16

OutOfSight 14.05.2014 05:30



Hav e it actually occurred to you, that Putin is just fair in what he does? Donbas didn't vote on joining Russia, so they are not joining it, for now at least. It's a 0/1 problem. They can run another referendum on the matter, but I doubt the outcome would be positive. Atm, Donbas is friendly with Russia, but independent.

  



It is also not possible to take in so many people and territory over night. Russia wants first to create peace and talks then discuss future. Economy and military defence could be weakened.

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 08:46

OutOfSight 14.05.2014 05:18


I think this so called crisis is totally US (neocon) work. Using vast network of their agents of influence present in EU governments and media they have talked the EU to join a quarrel that's totally in the interest of USA only, and against both Russia and the EU.

  


Yup, NATO and the EU just aquired an expense that they don't have the money for and that isn't going to repay it's debt.

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 08:43

Alex 14.05.2014 02:50



St ill haven't countered my point, which makes me think you're avoiding it. Putin praised the Crimean referendum for being a way for the people to clearly voice support for joining Russia. Donetsk/Lugansk were confusing, and at most the people supported self-rule. But secessionist leaders are calling for Russia to annex. They aren't for the people

  


Yes I did, you just don't like the answer. It depends on how things play out from here, and what NATO and your nazi junta crook buddies do. NATO has acquired a very expensive dependent that they can't afford.

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 08:37

[quote name='Terry Ross' time='14.05.2014 02:54']

Wit h the US funding 75% of NATO (up from 67%) it is debateable as to how long the charade can continue. There is decreasing appetite at home in US and in the EU for military spending in such austere times. Rather than increasing expenditure countries are curtailing it. US also wants to commit itself to Asia , but it still has its costly Ukraine mess to deal with.

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I agree completely, most of NATO is going down from here economically before it bottems. There isn't going to be the money to pursue the types of military adventures that they have been.

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 08:33

[quote name='Terry Ross' time='14.05.2014 03:18']

Be cause it is. There is almost no difference between the GDP of Russia and Germany. You would classify Germany as leading economy (largest in Europe) , so why not Russia?
Trends are stated simply because Russia has moved from 35th in early 90's to 6th within roughly two decades.
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Of course it is, Russia has a space program and nukes galore. This Protsiv guy doesn't want to know what the truth is or deal with reality, he just wants to live in his own little fantasy world and pretend that his fiction is fact. And irritate a lot of people in the process.

 

Blue 14.05.2014 06:52

Regarding US economy, might want to read Paul Craig Roberts' recent article
The Fed Is The Great Deceiver — Paul Craig Roberts and Dave Kranzler
May 12, 2014

Probab ly knows a thing or two:

" Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week,..."

 

Gabriel Acobian 14.05.2014 04:16

Russia should accept the accession plea; the people of the region believe that if the west wishes to join EU without asking them, then they can join Russia without asking Kiev; particularly when Kiev has no legitimacy to act. If Russia lets the people down, then what is the point?

 

penelope powell 14.05.2014 04:06

Not everythihg is being manufactured in China. Germany has an industrial base. Germany has 6000! companies in Russia.

Re: Donetsk referendum. The original plan was to have a second one to decide whether to join Russia.

 

Terry Ross 14.05.2014 03:18

Myroslav Protsiv 14.05.2014 02:54

why people are trying to say that russia is leading economy,

  


Be cause it is. There is almost no difference between the GDP of Russia and Germany. You would classify Germany as leading economy (largest in Europe) , so why not Russia?
Trends are stated simply because Russia has moved from 35th in early 90's to 6th within roughly two decades.

 

Terry Ross 14.05.2014 02:54

RichardD 14.05.2014 02:43

NATO bought itself a very expensive pig in the poke to add to the EU's collection that's for sure, and may end up the big loser in the long run. That's what I think.

  


With the US funding 75% of NATO (up from 67%) it is debateable as to how long the charade can continue. There is decreasing appetite at home in US and in the EU for military spending in such austere times. Rather than increasing expenditure countries are curtailing it. US also wants to commit itself to Asia , but it still has its costly Ukraine mess to deal with.

 

Alex 14.05.2014 02:50

RichardD 14.05.2014 02:43



I think NATO threw a shovel full of manure in the fan pointed Russia's way. And Russia is trying to clean up the mess that these neocon idiots created the best that it can. Crimea solves a permanent military problem.

  


St ill haven't countered my point, which makes me think you're avoiding it. Putin praised the Crimean referendum for being a way for the people to clearly voice support for joining Russia. Donetsk/Lugansk were confusing, and at most the people supported self-rule. But secessionist leaders are calling for Russia to annex. They aren't for the people

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 02:49

Terry Ross 14.05.2014 02:44



My point was Russias ranking which you placed at 9 and which as I have shown is comparable with Germany , and once these shenanigans are finished, will overtake it to be at 5.

For some reason you keep quoting the trading block of EU. Surely if you do that, you must include BRICS, which I imagine would be Num. 1.

Anyway as I have said in a separate post th

  


Russia is also the nation on the planet capable of obliterating the US in 30 minutes. And NATO backed down in the eastern Mediterranean when Russia stood up to them. So there's more to it than economics.

 

Terry Ross 14.05.2014 02:44

Myroslav Protsiv 14.05.2014 02:16

ev en by ppp, ranking remains the same, EU, US, China. your point

  


My point was Russias ranking which you placed at 9 and which as I have shown is comparable with Germany , and once these shenanigans are finished, will overtake it to be at 5.

For some reason you keep quoting the trading block of EU. Surely if you do that, you must include BRICS, which I imagine would be Num. 1.

Anyway as I have said in a separate post the trends are important. See Mexico and its rise to the top 10.

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 02:43

Alex 14.05.2014 02:32



Wel l, not exactly the comment I was looking for. I'm not sure if there will

  


I think NATO threw a shovel full of manure in the fan pointed Russia's way. And Russia is trying to clean up the mess that these neocon idiots created the best that it can. Crimea solves a permanent military problem. East Ukraine was part of Russia and may be again, it all depends on how things play out, the situation is fluid. NATO bought itself a very expensive pig in the poke to add to the EU's collection that's for sure, and may end up the big loser in the long run. That's what I think.

 

Alex 14.05.2014 02:41

Putin praised the Crimean referendum for having a clear question (Ukraine or Russia) so that the people could clearly express their voice. Donetsk and Lugansk didn't have that. The question for their referendums was "Do you support the act of state self-reliance of the Donetsk People's Republic?" Very confusing, and people who voted for it did not vote to join Russia. But Pushilin and the other leaders knew that these "republics" ; couldn't survive economically on their own, so probably for them this was about joining Russia all along.

 

RichardD 14.05.2014 02:35

[quote name='Myroslav Protsiv' time='14.05.2014 02:28']

Do you eat gold? What matters is how much goods and services you produce.

[/ quote]

That 's very funny, last time I checked most EU and US manufacturing was done in China. Do you eat depreciating fiat currency? Gold will be worth something when dollars and euros aren't.

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