What was the tile, maybe 'Greece a model for Russia! or 'Go Russia, down the pan, flush with EU strategy'

EC economy are in very bad shape, EC certainly no qualify to teach Moscow

Yes they shouldn`t - if they do Russia would have higher income per person than Poland - unacceptable :p

So, "European Commission therefore suggests that Russia should first reform its legal system, ensuring the rule of law, curb corruption, improve the investment climate, get NGOs engaged in the modernization process and then, with help from the EU, Russia should be brought closer to European technological and economic standards" - I thought that stuff was already started. Has the European Commission not been paying attention? Or are there uniquely "European" standards that Russia still must meet? And for what reason? I wonder how many laughs this document from the EC is getting in Russia government offices.

LOL. EU inturn got this "document" from CIA to "pass it on" to russia. A pathetic little joke indeed

WHAT A EUROPEAN JINGOIST. Europe has completely failed in light of the recent crisis. They all are overspending, politically weak, militarily weak, and uncompetitive countries. I'd be damned if Russia ever became like those failures. Take Ukraine for example. A Ukrainian earns 1/3 of what a Russian earns, ALL because it is a democracy. It is weak and unstable. If anything the EU needs to learn to get a backbone from Russia.

The Ministry of Education in Russia will be initiating a recall of Russian and other Soviet scientists. However, the 12 billion roubles (about $400 mln) earmarked for this project does not seem sufficient, since what Russia needs most is the development of technology and consumer-oriented products that can be exported. The Soviet Union had some of the best scientists in the world but for reasons of political ossification and containment by the capitalist West, it was never able to transfer its theoretical prowess to technological applications. Russia cannot remain a raw-material exporting country and join the ranks of highly developed countries with the pride it deserves. President Medvedev referred to this problem in one of his speeches recently. The problem is not that Russia is not up to Western technological capability. It is. Now is the time, however, to harness all the human energy lost during the calamitous era of Yeltsin and lift the living standard of the Russian people. Then no so-called advanced country will be able to match Russia, the country of magnificent culture, science, and technology. This will be the greatest gift of Russia to the world, at this juncture of its history. As for the EC proposal to help Russia modernize, when was it the last time European powers helped Russia? In WWI? WWII? Can these hypocrites and colonialists-imperialists point to any country they have helped to industrialize and modernize, let alone Russia? Didn't they "try" it during the Yeltsin reign? These marauders speaking of the rule of law? They can't be serious.

That's it I am sending my own plan for the modernization of Russia's economy. I guarantee it will be better! Let's see, who do I send it to?

I just heard from my friends who Keep Getting Board, that the report is quite substantial and contains sections from the EU as a whole and individual states contributing. I don't know the exact details but I was just thinking what the sub sections could be titled. Only managed to get information on part of the rule of law section for now. Rule of Law: Improving legal judgements - Drafting by the security services, a way forward for harmonising with the sate - UK contribution, key writer MI5 Prisons out of sight - Torturing them in silence - A EU wide contribution, key contributors Eastern EU states Inquest and Public enquiry cover ups - Whitewashing the past - key contributor UK Helping a friend - EU wide contribution, key contributors EU prosecutors. Selective war criminals - West is Best - EU initiative, sponsored by the Hague War criminals in disguise - The Serbian, Iraq and Afghanisatn experience - NATO backed report Selective religeous discrimination - Burkas are out, Nun's habits are in - key contributor France Ethnic Cleansing your state - A guide to EU human rights - Key contribitors the Baltic states. Beating the corruption rap - A EU company corporate guide - Key contributions by EU defense companies I am sure more information on the eminent report will be forthcoming with time.

February 12, 2010, 07:27, Bianca wrote > That's it > I am sending my own plan for the modernization of Russia's economy. > I guarantee it will be better! > Let's see, who do I send it to? Oh send it to me. Seriously. Some scientists raise the doubts that the consumer society has bright future. Leaving aside all the usual critics of this model they voice concerns that this sort of society is self destructive and doomed to fail rather sooner than later. One of the points they underline is that medicine, culture, education became just commodities on the market and subservient to economy. Second point is that it is getting unprofitable to produce good things. Cheap plastic junk rules and consequently the quality of the products is rapidly deteriorating. That’s said. Why Russia should follow this path. USSR in many senses was a successful experiment. After turmoil and blood bath in the middle of century it managed to come out as a pretty good society. EU till now has to catch up with standards of USSR. Why not remove the shortcomings of USSR but keep it strengths. I would not call it Chinese model. Seems like Chinese jumped into the consuming bath and enjoy every bit of that.

This is just the first draft. The final draft will be a program acceptable to the government of Russia and the countries that make up the EU. There won't be anything in the final draft that allows anyone to see patronage running in either direction. After the program is complete I would expect visa less travel between Russia and the EU. And that the EU and Russia had drawn closer economically and socially. The EU had as a founding principle the aim of uniting the European combatants of two world wars. It is therefore only a matter of logic to note that without Russia this program remains dangerously incomplete. The President of France has said the Cold War is over. The German Chancellor agrees. So EU relations with Russia have moved to the center of the stage. As long as the European continent is divided the abyss yawns before all our feet. As any European could tell you.

Hatred can easily be noted in the comment of our ultra nationalist polish resident poster. @ from Poland, whats up mate? you don't want the Russians to have a better standard of living? I personally think the EU makes a bad teacher, when within ourselves are countries just getting by. Its not as if countries like Poland have a model economy. We have a cruel joke in the UK. During the WWII the Polish government abandoned its people and moved to London.Now the people had abandoned the government and moved to London. Even robust economies like the French German and British are struggling.

Vladimir, I am not joking. I have had it enough of these jokers who took a country like Greece, that did quite well on its own, and turned it into a basketcase. So, for as long as conservatives in Greece and Spain did the bidding, money was found the hook the economy on the drugs of credit. Now, that less maleable politicians are in power in both countries, it is time to squash them, and asset sovereignity over Greece! Of course Greece will get nothing, but it will have overseers. What a mess! And these are the people to have anything to say about development? I have ideas on development that are pragmatic, show result, and create economic infrastructure for the future. With some real experience in the field, I will give it a shot. If you are interested in the project, drop me a note at prometheus.bianca@gmail.com. This e-mail is exclusively for such ideas. I hear all the time great ideas by people commenting on RTV.

OK, getting past the apparent arrogance of the EU making recommendations about "modernization", I wonder if the Russian people themselves are making recommendations. They are the ones who will decide what is desired in modernization and whether the implementation is a good thing or not. Must everything be "modern" or are there some traditions worth keeping? There are mechanisms for communicating with the Kremlin and White House, but I don't know how many Russians send e-mails or letters to their leaders. The TV call-in shows seem to have been popular. It seems to me that the Russian government already has a pretty good idea of what needs to change in order to become more efficient or competitive or more responsive to the people. That said, I wonder now about the article and my previous response - were the EU recommendations voluntary or did the Russian government ask for them? Sort of like, "OK, you guys in the EU are always nagging us, so if you are so smart, what do YOU think we should do to modernize?"

What I think is that Russia and the EU should cooperate, without any of them trying to control the other. We're all in this together, and cooperation is a must, but one part pushing its ideals on the other, be it the russians proposal for a so called new security system in Europe or this suggestion from the EU to Russia, is not the path to follow (they both sound suspicious). Following such a path from each end would just eventually lead to the point where neither want to let the other pass...^^ And what's up with people here seeing Russia as somewhat holy? Sure, there are many things I like about Russia, but the people commenting here gotta be more rational about it all... No country is perfect:O Vladimir wrote that things like medicine, education and culture only are capitalistic commodities in Europe... Absolutely not true. All of those areas are, partly or completly, the responsibility of the state in most european countries. The US is a different story...

EU is far from being a democratic example, there is no freedom of speech (the "politically correct" rules everything) political ideology infects all branches of social life, t.is ecologism which is in Europe was Marxism was in the USSR, controls every day's activities, tells people how to dress, how to spend holidays, how to drive, what is "politically correct" to drink, to eat, what car you may drive and how you must drive. Medias in the EU are all the same propaganda and desinformation - especially about Russia. Economy of EU, poverty, nonemployment, people depending on social help, popular soups increases exponentially. Governements of EU encourage financial thefts and spionage inside of non EU countries like Switzerland. Eu is a magnificient example of moral, economical and social disaster and they are preaching those "values" to Russia!! Russia' s economy is doeing a lot better than EU's one, and then EU is a simple Troja-horse of the USA in Europe, preparing with NATO to invade Eastern Europe, probably Russia as well, like they tried before when poor drunk Elstine couldn't refuse to sell Mother Russia to american business societies with the help of Russian traitors.

Why does Russia need to seek advice from the EU? Should countries such as Britain with its corrupt bankers and politicians teach Russia about these matters? And lessons about democracy from countries that knowingly collaborate with US on torture? Physician, heal yourself first!

The EU can not teach much to Russia as Russia has higher technology, better economic management, much better sciences, and better cultures and better education, though it is true that there are some of the things which people, not only Russians but Americans can learn from Europe. The EU is a semi-failed organization: euro may not survive this crisis, at least in the current form. I am very pessimistic in its survival. Also most of politicians, especially in the positions of governing are inferior quality to many Russian politicians, especially Mr. Putin. Russia is in some ways much more democrtic than in any other countries in this world: for example, Russian politicians listen to peoples' voices, Putin has 4 hrs of quation and answer sessions, and Lavrov can talk answering questions about one hour. No politicians in the other coutries excepting some in Latin Americans do that.

Democratization, how predictable. I believed, up until now, that diplomacy tends to be mild, easy, and not offending. This is certainly not the case with the policy of The European Commission. What an offence, to say that Russia does not have the rule of law, that it is undemocratic! I presume that this new strategy, or plan, would mean thousands of new political parties, in every region of Russia. It probably provides the lack of control of anti-state and unconstitutional actions (which are always seen as democratic in states such as Russia, China, Iran...) as a key of "the success" of the democratization. And how about the "Partnership for Humanization", a document from Russia to EU?