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Go back to where you are happy – German author on immigration issue

Published: 19 October, 2010, 11:38
Edited: 27 October, 2010, 14:16


Immigration tensions are rising in Germany following Chancellor Angela Merkel's statement that multiculturalism has failed in the country.

 
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freeman October 19, 2010, 14:18 quote
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What a populist puppet. I say OK. Turkey take back your turks and germans don't infest anymore the rest of the world.s Please who has colonised the islamic contries and other parts of the world? Huttington is speaking through many mouthes but the reality is very different. Muslims have lived in peace and in acceptance of others during centuries. The Clash between civilisations is a convinient theory for those who have hidden agenda...We all know that there is social unrest in Europe and the blame has to be diverted towards the muslims. The turks should may be go back to turkey and the germans should get out of Turkey and other muslims countries. It would be fun to see which one of the two will be better off. Where are the natural ressources mister? Are they in Germany? As one of your leaders admitted it your army is fighing not for "human rights" but for their intrests. Please I beg you go home and leave Africa, south america, the middle east, central asia, and the rest of the non european world alone. Let the people of these regions breath. If it wasn't for the colonial and post colonial adventure nobody would be in Europe. Tell the truth. Islamophobia is dsigned to trap the hability to think properly and set into motion the lowests of human instincts.

Pauline October 20, 2010, 03:24 quote
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When has there ever been monoculturalism? Not since slavery evolved, as in Rome or Greece, has there been some unaculture in Europe, so what in the world are they talking about? Not reality, that is for sure. Monocultures only exist within isolated tribes or very isolated regions. It is enormously difficult for two cultures to harmonize, however. There is constant friction, even when it is very minimal, and even when the religion is the same (as with most of the Mexican immigrants and American Catholics, who number about 64 million). I wonder how Constantine and all those Christians did it, because I suspect the process of Christianizing everyone was deeply brutal. We really, really need a Constantine type now -- or some force that will create a superstructure/culture for the life we lead now, but it cannot be brutal, that no longer works in such a high tech economic base. In any event, right now this is all about sending the pesky guest workers home -- now that the economy is not going to expand anymore. It occurs to me how duped the left has been ... multiculturalism was used as a way to enable importation of cheap labor. Now that the labor is not needed, neither is the multiculturalism I guess. Are you finished with identity politics? Can we ever get back to the issue of the working class and commodity production?

Siegmund Wagner October 20, 2010, 10:42 quote
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Islam is an ideology which states that it should be predominant culturally, religiously and socially. When another culture stiffens its back to assert these selfsame principles, the cry goes up that this is unfair. When Saudi Arabia allows Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus and Bahais to practice their own worship -- which is illegal there -- then I will think more tolerantly of Islam. Until then, I think Europe need lean towards the example of Islam itself as practiced by the "guardians of the two mosques" -- a practice which is utter and complete religious intolerance. As supposed moderates in Europe become tolerant of intolerance, then logic has been stood on its head and becomes meaningless. Regarding the lingering accusation of colonialism laid against the West by supposed scholars and thinkers in the West, among the greatest colonialists throughout history is the Muslim ummah. Such absurdities as others have commented herein shows that there is little pride in them for Western culture and achievements. Being fools in this, they cannot see the faults of all men -- which includes Muslims. As to identity politics, the socialists and Muslims in Europe have played this game out thoroughly and now wish to cry foul when others follow their lead. It is time to defend all that has been and remains good in the various Western cultures, to which self-loathing Westeners have too long been blind.

Tjockis October 21, 2010, 10:58 quote
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Just want to clarify that in German (and in many other EU languages) one billion = one trillion in english.

Citizen 0 October 21, 2010, 22:54 quote
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None of you people who comment against this issue (the failure of multiculturalism) have obviously any experience with muslims or islam. YES, multiculturalism is good. We are many people and we all have our own religions, traditions, art, culture, customs etc. But the way many if not all European countries are, that is a soup of all kinds of people with all kinds of background and are facing bots social and religious division, as well as a horrible rise in crime and extremism especially from muslim immigrants. The way we are, living on a round planet with many countries bordering one another we WILL have some kind of influence on each other and yes no country will ever be isolated. But no country can exists as it is if people from vastly different cultures move in to live together. This has never ever worked, even in USSR there was a kind of social-nationalism where everybody was a friend but they all were kept in their place. Both tigers and bears live sometimes in same ares, but both stay apart so to avoid a conflict. Putting all animals - predators, pray, and everything inbetween never works, that`s why they are in different cages in the zoo. People however are expected to live just fine if they are vastly different from one another? This will never work. This planet is not so small, that everybody HAS to live with everybody. They all have their own countries - go live there!

dbb October 22, 2010, 05:44 quote
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freeman, there no german immigrants in turkey...christians were ethnically cleansed learn history of ottoman empire

doninnz October 23, 2010, 08:19 quote
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It reminds me of the story of the famous French landscape painter "Papa" Corot ("the father of landscape painting") who painted outdoors, and who , when asked which side he would support in the French Revolution, replied " I'm going landscape painting , and I will be back when it's over!" The problem of religion and politics is that followers become fanatical and bad things are done in the name of religions. It's sad when people feel the need to kill other people because of their religious differences or lack of religion.

Syaheer October 26, 2010, 11:43 quote
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Islam never has rules not to integrate nor tolerate with others, however pessimists in Arabic/Turk/Malay/Indonesian/Indian cultures are to be blamed on the intolerance. It's also others whom are not familiar with others' beliefs, start to discriminate Islam and Muslims, they are not open to things which are "new" to them. There are many non-Muslims who are staying in Muslim countries, they are not disturbed by the Muslims, never did the Muslims throw them out of their homes. Anyway, back to what the man said, Chapter 3, verse 110 of the Qur'an did not say such a thing. That particular verse translates to: "Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book(Christians & Jews) had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors." Don't be offended by the last part of the verse before understanding the whole Qur'an, it says many times about the many "Muslims" who are transgressors, too.

Syaheer October 26, 2010, 11:51 quote
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---Another important but little-known issue, Ulfkotte stated, is the traditional for Islam culture problem of incest. “You could never publicly, and especially not in the media, you could never talk about incest in the Islamic culture that people who are relatives, cousins, if they marry – and it is common in Pakistan, common in Turkey, common in Morocco – if they marry and if they do incest it will not be good, because they will have schizophrenia, they have diseases – we have to talk about that,” Ulfkotte maintains. --- Ulfkotte seriously does not know Islam. Incest is haram(not permissible) in Islam. And the ruling of incest is when a father marries daughter, mother marries son, brother marries sister, brother/sister of father/mother marries niece/nephew and etc, since when did cousins or 2nd cousins become incest? Schitzophrenia and diseases are caused by genes which meet due to very, very close relations, like what i've written, especially of those coming from same parents. The probability of these diseases are very low in the marriage of cousins, as the biological mother & father's genes would have been far enough to be of safe mismatches. Again, he's confused between Arab/Turkish cultures with Islamic culture..

Peter Stone October 27, 2010, 14:15 quote
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History has taught us that the abrahamic patriarchal religions(judaism, christianity, islam) are colonizers, neo-fascists and misogynists!!! Animals, Gentiles, Women and Slaves have a bad deal on god's earth!!!!

yavol March 10, 2011, 14:10 quote
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Syaheer wrote in #9

---Another important but little-known issue, Ulfkotte stated, is the traditional for Islam culture problem of incest. “You could never publicly, and especially not in the media, you could never talk about incest in the Islamic culture that people who are relatives, cousins, if they marry – and it is common in Pakistan, common in Turkey, common in Morocco – if they marry and if they do incest it will not be good, because they will have schizophrenia, they have diseases – we have to talk about that,” Ulfkotte maintains. --- Ulfkotte seriously does not know Islam. Incest is haram(not permissible) in Islam. And the ruling of incest is when a father marries daughter, mother marries son, brother marries sister, brother/sister of father/mother marries niece/nephew and etc, since when did cousins or 2nd cousins become incest? Schitzophrenia and diseases are caused by genes which meet due to very, very close relations, like what i've written, especially of those coming from same parents. The probability of these diseases are very low in the marriage of cousins, as the biological mother & father's genes would have been far enough to be of safe mismatches. Again, he's confused between Arab/Turkish cultures with Islamic culture..

since when did cousins or 2nd cousins become incest?- really ??????

Anthony April 11, 2011, 21:35 quote
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Too bad American Government can't protect its people similarly. We have illegal Mexicans and 3rd World immigrants coming here demanding we learn Spanish...I mean in Pennsylvania, they have the Driver's Education book in Spanish...yet all the street signs and traffic control devices are in ENGLISH!! Unbelievably stupid. Mexicans want free this and free that...they deliberately have their babies here so they can abuse the system saying their child is an American Citizen. It's complete BS. Meanwhile, Americans are being laid-off, losing their homes etc. and 3rd World immigrants who came from a mud hut come here and take their job for pennies on the dollar. The businesses don't care. It's cheap labor. Why hire Bill at $20 an hour and provide him with health insurance etc., when they can hire Miguel for $3 an hour and not provide any healthcare at all?? America has no need for immigration. We're already over-populated with 320 million sheep.

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