“The idea of a conspiracy between Stalin and Hitler makes no sense”
Published: 05 September, 2009, 12:40
Edited: 26 September, 2010, 05:27
Attempts to belittle Russia’s role in fighting Nazism is unacceptable, said Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrey Nesterenko during his latest regular media briefing.
I don't acknowledge ANY of that which you said, Marzipan. The Molotov Ribbentrop Pact was nothing, not significant at all, it was PAPER, it meant nothing. What the Soviets actually did, i.e. almost single handedly beat Hitler, including supporting resistance movements and fighters in Europe is what really counts. I think you are the one living in a make-believe world. In your world, Brezinski did not gather up every criminal in the Middle East and fly them into Afghanistan, and call them "Mujahadeen" and bankroll them, and arm them and the USA never built all those Madrassas in Pakistan to create fundamentalist, zealots and create that area in Pakistan where the Mujahadeen could withdraw, and which could also funnel fighters against the Soviets to them? Oh, no, we are as pure as the driven snow. I'm sick of all of it.
Interesting, especially when the Minister of Russia himself is having the word to defend a view about how World War II really started : "soviet policy", "soviet diplomacy", "communism", "Russia" on one side and "nazism", "fascism", "Axis","Hitler" on the other side and than the democracies. But were is gone "Stalin" and "Stalinism"? I was listening 10 times that speech, I didn't hear theses 2 words. Something wrong with that? Than I hear: "it wasn't MOSKOWS fault that it didn't work out"... Was Staline also called Moskow? Is Moskow=Stalin ? Is Stalinism=Communism, and Soviet Union=Russia ?(+ still today?) Is it still not possible to maybe consider that Mr Stalin's Plan with Hitler, neither Stalinism(=communism?) did not work out well for the Russian People? Too difficult to think about it this way? Why has Russia to feel offended now for Stalins missdealings and wrongdoings, just because someone doesn't wish to divide the heroism of plain russian people with little choice, and the risky deals of Uncle Joe and all the rest he represents? I also hear: "..to shoulder the responsability of the war either on Hitlers Germany nurturing agressive plans, or on the Soviet Union, only acting in defense, ARE INACCEPTABLE.." That is quite a blow, indeed. Is that supposed to make the german democrats be friend of this New Russia? This white-washing to transparency/invisibilty of Stalin is a bit scrary. Nikita Khrushchev was slightly more direct in these matters!Why not to finaly get rid of Stalin, divorce him from YOUR Russia and recognize his huge mistakes to spit him out. Otherwise better remove the Imperial Eagle from the scene and put back the Red stuff.
Amen. Knowing and hearing the truth enunciated so clearly is absolute delight. I pity those who insist on gobbling the historical garbage produced daily by certain quarters in the West and their hate-mongering chauvinist dittos. Because no matter what they do, the truth shall prevail.
Spain (1936), France 3rd. Republic (1939), Czechoslovakia (1938), Dunkerke (1940), Hess (1941), the stop of the advance in Italy (1944), the delay to opening 2nd. Front (1944), the recovering of nazis by the secret services of England and US (1945), the secret build of atomic bombs (1945) ... etc., is a chain of events aimed against the Soviet Union never investigated, reaserched or clarified enough by the West










Once again, the comments of the Russian Foreign Ministry suggest that it has veered off into a make-believe world of its own. No one but no one – NO ONE – “belittles Russia’s role in fighting Nazism.” Just as NO ONE justifies the disgraceful policy of Western appeasement of Hitler. However, almost everyone acknowledges that Hitler and Stalin giving a wink and a nod to each other to divide up Europe between them was the final lever that started off WW2 – because, a matter of days after signing that infamous Pact, that is exactly what happened. And everyone acknowledges that having made a mighty contribution to defeat Hitler after Hitler had broken the Pact, Stalin’s Soviet Union brought no liberty to the lands from which it expelled Hitler. Only a new totalitarian nightmare of Soviet terror. Why Russia exiles itself in its own self-imposed bubble of fantasy and claims the opposite remains a mystery to thinking people.