Donilo Turk is quoted as saying, “Certainly I have noticed the tendency to rewrite history and this is not surprising, because history is constantly being interpreted and re-interpreted.” Of course history must be interpreted as new data comes to light. But this is not a re-writing of history – it does not throw established understandings away and start anew, but merely adds further details and further insights to the already established line of understanding. A re-writing means discarding original understandings and replacing these with something entirely different, like Stalinist Russia re-wrote the history of Tsarist Russia and enforced this all the way to the burning of books, or like post-Stalinist Russia of the late 1950s and 60s re-wrote aspects of Stalinist history, and like Russia of the perestroika era re-wrote aspects of Stalinist and post-Stalinist history alike, and like Putin’s Russia has re-written that record, and reverted back to the Soviet, and even Stalinist Soviet view of some things. However, I doubt that this re-writing of history is what Turk is referring to. He apparently refers to alleged re-writing of the history of WW2. But like everyone else who makes such a claim, he remains quite silent about identifying any specific aspect of the historical narrative that has been supposedly re-written, specifying neither what it has been changed from and what it has been changed to, by whom nor when. The world’s understanding of WW2 is the same today as it was in 1946, the only difference being that more facts and archival material is available to elaborate and confirm, not contradict, what was already known then. Turk also tells of the SU liberating Slovenia. At the end of the War, Slovenia was delivered from fascist tyranny to Communist tyranny, rendered milder only because of Tito’s rift with Stalin. Liberty sprung nowhere at all where Communist rule was established. One tyranny was merely replaced by another, and that is not liberation.

Slovenians are all too well known as being proteges of the German block (Ger. and Aus.) ! Consequently, even though Slovenians are a Slavic nation, they are generally delighted with Germaan culture, German way of doing things, German views on various issues, etc. Slovenians are also far from being truly delighted with Orthodox Christianity, Orthodox Slavs (Serbs, Bulgars, Russians) and everything that comes from the "East". Slovenians like to think about themselves as of "westerners". Slovenians, who in ex-Yogoslavia were together with Serbs, Croats and some other nations, were very opposed to having stronger ties between ex-Yugoslavia and Russia, and they have acted the best they could to break up the ex-Yugoslavia as that was in compliance with German strategic interests. Since Slovenians do not like Russians, Serbs, and all other "easterners", the only reason that Pres. Turk have spoken positively about Russian contribution in WWII may only be a desire of Slovenians to make some good business in Russia. One can get a clearer idea on what Slovenians really think about Russia by following comments in their media about Russia and by talking with ordinary people. One will realize that Slovenians have basically a negative attitude towards Russia. Many Slovenians fought in Wehrmacht squads during the WWII.

Danilo Turk must not postponed granting Slovenian citizenship to thousands Slovenian residents who ended up in Slovenia when Yugoslavia was breaking up, because it will create grounds for uprising which will lead up to part of Slovenia becoming enclave like Kosovo and potential humanitarian disaster for which they will seek independence from Slovenia, like Kosovo did. In this instance, Danilo Turk will think twice when he advocates recognising Kosovo on the grounds he explained.

I am astonished what a pleasant and sophisticated man the President of Slovenia is. Danilo Turk for President of the EU!

In Slovenia there are two classes of people--those with Slovenian residency and those without it. Slovenia has a segment of Nazism in its culture, I know that because I live there.

Estonia, Slovenia and Latvia are in the same basket since the eridication of the comunism--liberty for one class of the population--enslavement for others. That's called nationalism. As the configuration of the World powers is gradually taking shape, these tree counrties will be hit the hardest when liberation will be taking place and finally all of its citizens will be equal. But will they remain independent that's another matter?

Dear Vladimir I am impresed about your knowledge of Slovenian mentality of our regular people. But you can`t blame Slovenians about that, becouse they have lived 1000 years under their German and Austrian masters. Only in 1918 after the collaps of Austrian Empire, they have rediscovered their long lost national indentity, wich they lost afte their first miedeval Slavic states of Carinthia and Carnia was occupied by their northern neighbours Germans.

"One tyranny was merely replaced by another, and that is not liberation." Well you see Vladimir This is what the classical example of slovenian everyday cretinism and right wing populism looks like. It is nothing suprising, becouse this bull shit works in our country very well today. Every normal and healthy person knows that without USSR, UK, USA and Yugoslav liberation movement and partisans, THERE WOULD BE NO SLOVENIA AND SLOVENIAN NATIONALITY AND REPUBLIC OF SLOVENIA OF TODAY !

Stole, you make a very sweeping – and frankly, nonsensical – allegation when you tell of a supposed “enslavement” of everyone apart from one class of people in Estonia. I have visited Estonia numerous times, I know people of both Estonian and Russian ancestry there, I have even met and spoken with a person of Russian ancestry and who himself was born in Russia and who is a member of the current Estonian parliament, and I can’t say I’ve ever noticed any enslavement of anybody. Perhaps you could validate your accusation by detailing precisely who is enslaving whom, and what are the characteristics of that enslavement, and by exactly what evidence you have determined that the slavery is in place.

Marzipan6, The post below was communicated between yourself and you comrade Kihnu on another forum, read it carefully: “April 25, 2010, 20:10, Kihnu wrote > Marzipan6: "I have purchased postcards from Russian vendors in Tallinn (much to my mother-in-law’s displeasure, who was accompanying me at the time)." > I know - I have spoken with the pretty young Russian girl selling postcards near Viru hotel and Viru Värav. They are all very cute and English speakers. The girl must have been good at her job if she got you to buy postcards in the presence of your mother-in-law's frown”. Having analysed above post, the problem with you and your comrade Kihnu is you guys are either too much self focussed or you simply cannot grasp the reality which expresses itself by a single consciousness and it is as crystal as clear the right from wrong. You simply cannot recognise the dire straight of disadvantaged people in Estonia, Latvia and Slovenia because there is something wrong with your perception. Above post in brackets is a real evidence of what I am talking about.

Dear Stole, if you are interested in understanding Estonia and replacing inaccurate pre-conceived notions with factual knowledge, you should visit the country and meet some of the pretty Russian post-card sellers yourself. There are some pretty Estonian sellers, too. All of them look as well-to-do as anyone else you might meet in Tallinn. I imagine that post-card selling might be a job which some students do to earn a bit of extra money, or with which some pensioners augment their income. There are plenty of Russian ethnicity shopkeepers, hotel staff, taxi drivers, policemen, computer specialists, journalists, scientists, economists, public servants, soldiers, bankers, doctors, lawyers, too. My brother lives in fairly standard apartment block in Tartu; some of his neighbours are Russians, and very nice people as much as I’ve seen of them. The only complaints he has ever made to me of any of his neighbours is of an Estonian guy who doesn’t pay his body corporate fees, doesn’t maintain his property, tends to get drunk rather often and is a general pain in the neck to everyone. The problem with Russians’ status of employment is not that there aren’t many in high positions – there are. The problem is that, relative to the Russian proportion of the population, there should be more. This is because traditionally Russian schools have not taught Estonian (this is changing now), and too many of the adult generation of Russians have point-blank refused to learn the language themselves. This cuts such people off from various job opportunities throughout the country, and confines them to self-imposed Russian-speaking enclaves. The government is going to a lot of effort to break this pattern down, by introducing school reforms which guarantee that all school leavers, in addition to whatever other languages they may choose to speak, also have a working knowledge of Estonian. And also, by providing financial incentives for adults to learn the language.

@Vladimir Great knowledge & definition of Slovenians for Russian (if you are Russian) Slovenia was part of Germanic culture for 1000 years (of 3rd Reich also) and only reason they exist today as nation was be cause of stupidity of Serb king who wanted to create unified South Slavic nation in 1919 which Slovenians tried to abandon ever since they got their independence through it. And as you say Slovenians were NEVER fans of "Orthodox Slavs (Serbs, Bulgars, Russians)" Serbs call them, "Austrian stable cleaners".

Marzipan6, you are so immature, you should go more deeper into things up to the bottom of the problem. Otherwise, reading your post is so boring.

John, would you please favour us with some examples of where my analysis is too superficial. Please demonstrate for us what an appropriately deep analysis would look like and consist of, and what conclusions it would reach. However, here's a hint: a rote repetition of Stalin-era propaganda is not analysis. Analysis deals with verifiable realilties, not spin, and certainly not with personal jibes.