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Chechen militant Zakayev detained and released in Poland

Published: 17 September, 2010, 11:25
Edited: 26 October, 2010, 19:46


Chechen militant envoy Akhmed Zakayev

Chechen militant envoy Akhmed Zakayev has been released after the Warsaw district court declined the prosecutor's request to hold Zakayev in detention for 40 days.

 
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Count Cash September 17, 2010, 12:18 quote
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The case is simple, Russia is a sovereign state, this individual terrorist took part as an active participant in armed action, where many lost their lives on Russian soil. He therefore needs to do the time for that crime, so lets get this terrorist extradited as soon as possible. There is much talk about preserving the sanctity of borders, about defeating terrorism in the west, let's see for once if they can practice what they preach, or whether they will continue to follow the path of hypocrisy by political manipulation of the courts.

Citizen 0 September 17, 2010, 15:23 quote
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Ahahahaha! *someone* may be soon looking at the world for the rest of his life trough rusty metal bars.

marb September 18, 2010, 10:41 quote
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In retaliation for such an anglo-american "hospitality" Russia should give a safe haven to whomever they consider terrorists...

from Poland September 18, 2010, 15:22 quote
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@marb Many polish mafia leaders and serial killers are hiding in Russia because of their connections with KGB/FSB. Dont expect polish justice forgot about that.

Larisa September 19, 2010, 09:41 quote
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From Poland said: Many polish mafia and serial killers are hiding in Russia. Don't expect polish justice forgot about that. Who exactly are you talking about? Names? What is your proof? Sounds like typical rusophobic histeria that has nothing to do with any justice whatsoever. Also sounds like a typical politically motivated decision by Polish governement. Meanwhile, names of Russian criminals hiding in London and Poland and data about their crimes are well known: Zakaev, Berezovsky, etc. Everyone also knows of illegal CIA/US prisons that Poland authorized on its territory, where people were smuggled across borders and tortured. Don't expect the world has forgotten about that.

Fred September 19, 2010, 13:02 quote
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As far as I am concerned, Poland is just another "bought" puppet of the US, always ready to please the paymaster. eg.,, Missiles in Poland, support of Georgia during the invasion of South Ossetia, harboring bad memories about Russia, if that's the case , Germany should be at the top of the list not Russia. The US considers anyone opposing them even if they occupy and destroy the country as terrorists however terrorists in Russia are always considered Separatists or freedom fighters. fred....oregon usa

Piotr September 19, 2010, 14:59 quote
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@CountCrash.I don't deny that there are terrorists between Chechens who deserved for the punishment (eg.Shamil Basaev - notabene, who at the beginning of 90s was a member of Russian military forces which supported Abkhasian separatists in Georgia). But the case of Zakaev is not simple. He was a Minister of Culture of de-facto independent Chechnya and during wars for the independence from Russia he fought for the freedom of his nation. The witnesses, who - in Russian opinion - pretended to deliver undeniable proofs for ostensible terrorist activity of Zakaev, had deposed - during the court trial in London on Zakaev's extradition- that their original testimonies were forced by Russian services with tortures. Because of that, Russian accusations towards Zakaev became unreliable. And Russia hadn't deliver more reliable proofs. We need to separate terrorist activity from fighting for freedom. The current situation of Chechnya is similar to the situation of central Poland under Russian occupation after 1863. In 1863 Poles uprised and fought for independence from Russia. They'd lost. Because Polish guerilla lost, they were called "terrorists" and for the punishment - they were killed or sent to Sibiria. From Polish point of view this so-called "terrorists" were national heroes. The problem with Chechnya is that it got out of control and many Chechen guerrillas really practice the terrorist activity against innocent civilians (including against Poles). And of course nobody can deny Russian right to prevent it. BTW it's a bit strange when Russia demands form the west to treat Chechen separatists case as an interior affair of the RF and blames those who dare reveal also innocent victims of Russian crimes in Chechnya and on the other hand Russia supports separatists in other countries (eg. Georgia, Moldova). I don't want to use such strong, emotional words like "hipocrisy"& I won't judge, because every side have own rights and reasons.

Piotr September 19, 2010, 16:15 quote
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@Larisa, Дорога славянская сестра Москалька, I suppose, my compatriot „from Poland” used some simplification. BTW I doubt, he/she works for the police or similar services to posess some proofs for anything and I doubt that people responsible for collecting such proofs in Russia&Poland would reveal them on public forum in the internet if the criminalists aren't still arrested. But it is not a secret that many members of Russian mafia had worked for KGB & GRU. There is no doubt also that many people who worked for KGB, now work for FSB. So FSB agents have collegues in Russian mafia. It is possible that certain FSB agents fight with mafia and certain have still friends in mafia, so cooperate with the mob. It is not a secret that mafia is international, so „братя Лахы” from Polish mafia cooperate with „bracia Moskale” from Russian mafia. Russia is a big country where it is easy to hide. It is also possible that FSB protect certain Polish gangsters, because they help FSB to fight with Russian or Chechen mafia. It is usual practice of special services in the whole world. So this saying has nothing in common with russophobia. But if our governments started to cooperate so friendly, maybe it is a good time to launch the procedure of extradiction to Poland of these Polish gangsters who hide in Russia. BTW Polish courts don't take political decisions, only legal & based on facts and proofs, because they're independent from the government. The Polish police is dependent from government. Because Polish government smartly desires to improve Polish-Russian relationship, the Polish police has taken a political decision to arrest Mr. Zakaev. So every current politicaly motivated activity from Polish side is proRussian. There are only legal obstacles. I'm so sorry.

johnx September 19, 2010, 23:12 quote
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@Piotr The KGB linked mafia connections was during Yeltsin period with aligned Oligarchs who travel on Israeli passports and linked to western intelligence. The official Chechen position is that there is no major terrorist influence in Chechnya and just after the Beslan massacre Maskhadov posted a message on the separatist site stating that Basayev had no foreign bank accounts although US own court documents prove this to be false. During the first war and the de facto period Chechens were trained en mass in Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Georgia and Azerbaijan with the government’s full support and that of the separatist government regime which he was part of. Maskhadov did not condemn the incursion into Dagestan that sparked the second war or agree to the conditions that would have prevented it in the first place with the conditions laid out by then PM Putin to extradite Basayev, close his terrorist training camps, and renounce terrorism As far as Georgia and Moldova go other countries were involved in those incidents including by proxy the US and it was the same Georgian ultra-nationalist leader that supported Chechen independence attempted to crush the two regions autonomy. Moldova and Ukraine were also involved in the war that broke out in Moldova at the collapse of the USSR. And they are not involved in international terrorism and organised crime and wishing to extend their borders.

Piotr September 20, 2010, 01:11 quote
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@Johnx Russians,Chechens,Americans,etc. have own different versions. Who says the true, I don't know. „Maskhadov posted a message on the separatist site stating that Basayev had no foreign bank accounts although US own court documents prove this to be false”-maybe Maskhadov didn't know about every Basaev's bank account while posting this message. As far I know, at the begining of 90's Chechnya had no connections with terrorism. They were normal citizens, who wanted independence, like Lithuanians, etc. The problem of terrorism begun, when Russia were beginning to win with separatists during the 1st war. Than Chechens asked for help its islamic„brothers in faith”including fundamentalists. And than it got out of control so much, that Chechen so-called President was not able to prevent the activity of islamic fundamentalists (at least it is a Chechen version). There is no place here to describe all cruel crimes of Russian soldiers commited in Chechnya, that caused that hatred. Of course, I also know about extremely cruel crimes commited by Chechens on Russians during wars. But certain Chechnyan leaders wouldn't support terrorism, but also couldn't oppose, prevent it. It was such a disorder that such a Basaev could do many things without agreement of Maskhadov. Not every leader of Chechens who fought for independence was a terrorist. The reason of terrorism is a strong frustration connected with a feeling of impotence. I'm not able to judge if it was possible to prevent reasons of Chechnyan terrorism. Maybe recognizing independent Chechnya by Russia in the early 90's, would prevent it. If yes, than current Chechnyan terrorism may be understood as the price payed for the Russian policy targeted on avoiding a desintegration of the RF. Who should I condemn, those who became in certain condition terrorists or those who created reasons of terrorism, especially when I understand the motivation of both sides of a conflict&I'd like to condemn and support both?

Michal September 22, 2010, 11:23 quote
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Fred,Poland is not a puppet. Zakajev's case is nothing unusual and accordind to international law he cannot be given away to Russia. Poland respects international law. Have you seen lately, plane from the Smoleńsk catastrophe in which polish president and 96 officials died? Well, here it is http://www.tvn24.pl/ We ask Russia to cover it for few months now but Russians dont feel like doing so. They think its ok that rain is pouring at it al the time. The plane is an evidence in the open investigation.

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