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A man who identifed himself as Brendan Watts is seen with blood on his face while surrounded by three police officers in Zuccotti Park on November 17, 2011 in New York City (Andrew Burton / Getty Images / AFP)
Thom talks with a reporter and participant of the Occupy DC movement, and asks if we can trust the people of the leaderless movement in his “Daily Take.” Also discussed: Mortgage fraud, House Democrats preventing FAA workers from unionizing and a doomsday scenario about abrupt climate change.
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An honestly interesting show, Thom; but your interview advice 'on violence' was theocratic, possibly puritan, but thus in either case, Statist. From a media communications perspective, you may have objectivity ground to landscape in this territory. You were addressing a citizen who is not in agreement with the legitimacy of the State. Theocratic, puritan injunctions of [love vs. hate] are as historically proven to be irrelevant to the state as they are to the citizens demanding—through material action upon the borders of notional ownership—renewed conditions of governance. If your interviewee had been smashing temples, synagogues and churches, your office of response may have been more coherent. That is, if it could be proven that these institutions, and their media content, are anything more substantive than class–interested institutional mass molification. Certainly, your guests remarks about the general failure of leadership at all levels of social and cultural groupings are in crisis. Playing three card monty with one issue addressed in one frame with the other is tempting I am sure; but this is the type of thinking that yields us all the untenable qualia of our present leadership.
Any time in history where black bloc-like tactics have worked? How about Egypt? Or perhaps, Mr. Hartmann, you are unaware of the street fighting and defensive actions against police that were part of the Egyptian uprising or of the informational flyers explaining how to use what are essential black bloc street tactics, not to mention the many police cars and stations that where burned?
The black bloc is a tactic, not a strategy, and where it is used it is used alongside other tactics as part of a larger strategic framework. This actually forms one of the strongest bases for critiquing the use of a black bloc tactic and its appropriateness and effectiveness for any given situation. By not being clear about what diversity of tactics actually means and where black bloc tactics, many of which are non-violent, may fit into that diversity, one actually undercuts some of the best grounds for accurately critiquing them.
Thom, the non-violent civil rights movement did not change the status quo. The country is just as segregated and racist as it alway was. Only the seperate public accomodations have been removed but the social and economic stratification is unchanged.
And the guest was right: The Britsh Govt was the recognized legitimate Govt at the time of the revolution.