Mike Maloney on the 'fiscal cliff' and the 'Holy Sh*t' demographic bankrupting America!

November 09, 2012 23:30
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­Welcome to Capital Account. Bloomberg reports that UK prosecutors are ready to arrest former traders and rate setters at UBS, RBS and Barclays over their role in the LIBOR scandal. We ask Michael Maloney, founder of Gold-Silver.com, if the larger crime is not LIBOR manipulation, but the ongoing war against the price mechanism itself through reckless central banks and fiscally irresponsible governments.

Today, House Speaker John Boehner and President Obama each outlined plans for reducing the national debt, setting the stage for a contentious debate over the looming 'fiscal cliff.' This morning Boehner announced, “I outlined a responsible path forward to avert the fiscal cliff without raising tax rates.” A few hours later, Obama told reporters “If we’re serious about reducing the deficit, we have to combine spending cuts with revenue.  That means asking the wealthy to pay a little more in taxes.” 

It seems politicians are nowhere near reaching a compromise anytime soon. Would it be so bad if the US fell off the fiscal cliff? According to a new Congressional Budget Office report, the impact from the spending cuts and tax hikes would be a recession in the US economy next year and an increase in the jobless rate from 7.9 to 9.1 percent by the end of 2013. A deal to avert this would mean $503 billion dollars more in deficit spending for fiscal year 2013. We talk to Mike Maloney of Gold-Silver.com about what the fiscal cliff would entail for the long-term picture of the US economy, and if going off the cliff could at least be a wake-up call for politicians to finally take action.

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Kavanna (unregistered) 20.11.2012 00:01

While sympathetic generally to Maloney's POV, I have to put in some corrections to what he said. The main problem with Bush 2001-3 was the introduction of major *time-limited* tax policy that creates political uncertainty. In fact, about half of the US federal tax code is now loaded up with time-limited gimmicks -- there was a WSJ article about it earlier this year. This is a sort of "regime uncertainty" that the Austrian school likes to talk about.

As for the *size* of the deficits, Bush bears only very limited blame for this. Federal deficits under Bush peaked in 2003 and declined until 2008. It was the financial crisis, the Great Recession, and the massive expansion of spending in 2008-10 that created the mega-deficits we have now. Spending is up sharply in the last four years, while revenues have collapsed, because the economy is weak. And the federal government has not had a budget in four years.

Also, Maloney is great in explaining how markets and economies work, but he's confused about the basics of fiscal politics. The US is on a dangerous path *politically* because the connection between taxation, spending, and elections has been partially broken. Special interest groups now control much of government spending, and it is they who exercise the dominant influence over politicians. Public employee unions and muni debt underwriters (e.g., Goldman Sachs) have done especially serious damage to state and local governments, making voting at the state and local level often pointless. The politicians work for them, not the voters. The largest special interest groups at the federal level include AARP, public employees, and financial-real estate complex. With the federal government borrowing 40% of its annual spending, we have a government that voters can't control any longer. The spending has partially been freed from the constraints of taxation. This is non-representation with diminished taxation.

BTW , thanks for having Eric Hunsader of NANEX and Graham Summers on -- great interviews.

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thelonghaul 12.11.2012 23:20

Could someone tell Ms Lyster to tone her voice down a bit.
It sounds like a dentist's drill.
(She could stop smirking too, and looking so smug)

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Peg (unregistered) 12.11.2012 13:27

They should call the Fiscal Cliff "Tomorrow"
it's the tomorrow that they thought would never come while they spent like drunken sailors.
the destination of all those cans they kicked down the road as they avoided problems they didn't want to address now..
in reality, it's not a cliff at all.
It's the great trash heap of cans, some antique, some more new waiting for someone to come around and start sorting though and making decisions on.

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