The mortgage loans seem to be useful for guys, which are willing to organize their business. As a fact, it's easy to receive a credit loan.

Houses are not cheap and not every person is able to buy it. Nevertheless, business loans are created to aid people in such kind of hard situations.

Scottish andy (unregistered) wrote in #5
its not just the russians or the poles - the english done this to scotland - and yes when they play each other there is violence its the same the world over my friends - good game last night - russian team looks good :)
Says someone from a country that has the most bigoted fans in the world Rangers and Celtic

its not just the russians or the poles - the english done this to scotland - and yes when they play each other there is violence its the same the world over my friends - good game last night - russian team looks good :)

The sad truth is that poles are (not everybody of cause) scandalous nation of haters who hate russians, germans, jews. Why do russians don't hate germans? Quite the contrary russians like them (polls show it clearly). After WWII Russia lost 30 000 000 people. In Belorussia were killed 1/3 of the population. So what it does for now? 

Streikbrecker you are living 1000 years in the past by bring up Boleslaw i Chrobry and I am not sure what the point is that you are trying to make. The bottom line is that russia did not liberate Poland from nazi Germany. If you want to bring up the issue of rape then be realistic and lets talk about the free reign given to russian troops to rape woman, Polish, German, etc whilst russia was in a rush to claim what was agreed to at Yalta. Bottom line still....russia did not liberate Poland from the nazi's. Many of these innocent women who were raped by the russians are still alive. Talk to them to hear the real story. If you are man enough too.....

There are two points of view. First is yours, second one is that soviet army couldn't help because of the defaete when it tried to cross the river. And your uprising were badly coordinated with the soviets and unexpected.

S o... Do you know that Bolesław I Chrobry when his army occupied Kiev raped Russian princess daughter of the Grand Prince of Kiev in the front of the russian court?! Why you don't mention it? And how can play football after that? All Poles should know and remember it, everybody!

@ speak as an american ....fred...oregon, usa. Please ensure that you have the correct facts. ..." Remember who died liberating Poland from the Germans". If you are implying that the russians did so, this is a complete falacy, a myth and a fabrication of the russian propoganda machine to cover their crimes against humanity. At the treaty of Yalta the western allies, yes, also represented by your then american weakling of a president, granted russia the right to enslave eastern and half of central europe, ie russia was given carte blanche to occupy as it saw fit countries that became part of the russian/soviet block. Russia as part of its claculated plan to install illigitimate and illegal regimes in the various countries it occupied made sure that anti-russian/ant-com munist elements were eliminated/executed/ murdered along the way. When russia was moving west occupying Poland they came to the banks of the Vistula River in Warsaw. What did they then do?. The russians intentionally sat on their backsides and watched whilst the Warsaw Uprising fail on the other side of the river without raising a finger to help - also part of the plan to have eliminated those Poles who would have been against the installation of an illigitmate and illegal russian communist regime in poland. After the warsaw uprising the russians crossed the vistula and essentially just kept pushing back a weak and spent german army to what became the western borders of east germany.  Liberation????? to have an evil nazi regime replaced by a totalitarian & evil russian regime!!!!!  

Katyn (unregistered) wrote in #7
Good luck Poland on Tuesday. Although Russia is looked to win, make sure you beat up every single Russian in Warsaw on that day. Make sure they are beaten up so bad that their faces won't be recognized when they return to Russia. Or better yet, take them all to a forest along the border with Belarus and shoot them all in the head.  idiot

It is absurd to say that Russian people as a whole are violent and poor-cultivated simply based on some single isolated incident, which is usually made sensational news worldwide by the mass media. Ultranationalists and religious extremists exist everywhere around the world, but they are only in the minority, and therefore, cannot represent the mainstream cultures in their respective nations. Still, I think the Russian people should show more decent tolerance towards foreigners inside Russia or beyond, despite their race, religions, and historical backgrounds, so that you can be respected much more by the world. BTW, the use of the word "Beg" in the title of this news coverage is not well thought out and inappropriated. Please replace it with a better word, RT.

I am hoping for a good game tomorrow. 

"Russian national Independance/Russia Day holliday" Russia celebrates independance from ... Russia. Idiocy.

"I hope that both our nations can finally live in peace and respect towards each other. Together we can do more. But we need to put the nationalists aside (both on Polish and Russian side)."


W hy do you think Russian nationalists mind something against Poland and Poles? The fact is they don't. Russian nationalists has many their own problems, they all are marginal groups of hooligans that attract much attention. They have nothing like political parties in Europe and for me they don't worth any attention.


People who came to Poland are simple football amateurs. There are some people who can be provocative or can easily be provocated just because they don't mind a fighting. I'm sure the police is ready to it. But the amusing thing is that such actions are involved in politics. I guess everybody want to watch a good football. That's all.
PSWhat about this demonstration, i think it is unnecessary. I would better visit some museum. I'm pretty sure most of the people in Russia are not going to celebrate this shameful date.
PPS Just some thoughts of mine. But yeah, Andrzej_32, good message, I appreciate it, thanks.

The fact has the fastest rising middle class and the Red Machine is back- at least in Hockey both the senior and junior levels are some of the facts the West likes to deny and suppress. But it cannot be suppressed. Russians are traveling around the world but still there are haves and have-nots in Russia and we need to close that gap. The hooligans and ultra nationalists in Russia are members of those left behind. Program must be created for them as well. But I agree with you Poland made a cardinal error when it joined the camp of U.S imperialism.

PS. I believe that the best thing Russiand fans can do is to make their Tomorrow march before the game as peacefull as possible. That will make many Polish nationals and national jurnalist feel ashamed. I hate Polish (any any other) extreme nationalists, but believe me that they are just waiting for provocations and incidents from the side of Russian fans in order to further build anti-russian stereotypes and attitude. You will close their mouths by doing exactly opposite that they predict and have a peacefull event. This will make Polish nationals look eshamed in the eyes off all Europe. 

I hope that both our nations can finally live in peace and respect towards each other. Together we can do more. But we need to put the nationalists aside (both on Polish and Russian side).

Igor (unregistered) wrote in #13
*** RUSSIA FOR RUSSIANS ***
If Czech or other country do not want to be abused by us Russians they should not field BLACK players . RUSSIA wins because we only field white players from Zenit Saint Petersburg where BLACK monkeys are not allowed.
With such attitude you Russians will be hated by Europe. It shows complete lack of tollerance. You can't tell others to do and act the way you want to under threat of abuse etc.

By the way, I'm disgusted with our Polish media speculations that Russian fans will provoke Poles during their march before Poland-Russia game planed for Tomorrow. 
Russi an national Independance/Russia Day holliday on 12th June honors fall of Soviet Union. I don't see any reason why Poles should have anything against celebrating that day. In deed we should celebrate it together with Russian people.

In situation when Russian government is implementing laws limiting freedom of speach and demonstrating, we Poles should let the Russian people demonstrate in Poland.

I believe in Russian fans that they are of good will and it is not in their intention to make any provocations twords Polish people. I believe that they don't have any bad intentions as some polish media insinuate and if they proove it they will meka feel ashame Polish jurnalists and media who are talking about provocations and fights.

*** RUSSIA FOR RUSSIANS ***
If Czech or other country do not want to be abused by us Russians they should not field BLACK players . RUSSIA wins because we only field white players from Zenit Saint Petersburg where BLACK monkeys are not allowed.

Nothing can stop the Russian soccer team advancing to the next round, I believe. Good luck.

Katyn: You're so full of hate it's pathetic,,you keep kissing our American rears and get nothing in return but poisonous rotten meat McDonalds,,yes build those useless missile shields in your country on my tax dollars..Russia has the best rising middle class in Europe, the Red machine is back...in all sports!! with regard to your elite selling the Poles down the drain for a few dollars more, remember where Kalingrad is. it's missiles wil make Poland a mash potato..look how far Russia has come after Putin chased out those "American loving Jews" to the West. In the meantime your building American bases will just bring drugs, brothels and your women assaulted by our soldiers...On the other hand you could have peace with the Russians ...let's not live in the past..remember who died liberating Poland from the Germans!!!...fred... oregon, usa