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Anonymous attacking creators of indefinite detention bill

December 15, 2011 17:20

With President Obama read to sign away the freedoms of Americans by inking his name to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, opponents are already going after the lawmakers that made the legislation possible.

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greg cessna 04.01.2012 07:10

If anonymous is so capable how come they dont know about the mass homebuilt computers (so not to be on record) financed by inside and outside corruption placed under places like public storage 'units' or the computer chips smuggled into the unites states on the tags of oriental blankets during coordinated attacks from inside and outside (inside rigging for a very long time)
the internet goes down then they come up and they have internet and the people dont.  Think that might be tactical sopa wants to slip that bye you-Explosives put into molds to look like ordinary landscaping rocks w coved wires and magnetics even in the rivers think maybe americans need to de-rig the backwoods.  message from the grave.

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Iris 27.12.2011 03:44

Michelle (unregistered) wrote in #1
Here's the problem. This is normally a routine bill that passes every year providing funding for the military. This year someone tacked on the ridiculous amendment that would have allowed for indefinite detention. That amendment, however, has been struck down. So yes, the bill is in front of Obama. It was always going to be. But the amendment containing the scary implications is no longer part of it. We can all stop freaking out now.
Thank you Michelle. The volume of sheer, unadulterated nonsense zipping around the internet about the NDAA boggles the mind. However, the attention to this is a good thing. It is an important subject that warrants a healthy debate and discussion. Unfortunately, much of the discussion about NDAA has been the intellectual equivalent of the “death panel” objections to the health care bill. All this hyperbolic rhetoric and fear mongering about our Constitutional rights being taken away and this country becoming a police state is something I'd expect the ignorant tea party folks to believe, not the supposedly smart, well-informed individuals to fall for it without doing real research on the subject.  
And like the Tea Party, no matter what proof you present to them on the subject, you can count on them to find some ridiculous reason not to believe it.

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James (unregistered) 26.12.2011 04:14

To Anonymous. Your rants have at times been amusing, at times spot on, at times strange. You seem to be a ship without a rudder, no hand guiding you. You make statements and fail to follow through. Is it possible you are working for the ones you rant against, thus making the general populace ignore others due to your failures?If yes, disappear.If not, get focused and follow through. stop the grandstanding and act.A concerted hack against certain accounts of parasites is in order, move the funds to decent charities, bankrupt the "elite" and you will have accomplished something worthwhile...The rest of us just have to fight to hold on to what we have and stand against the abuses our governments pile on us

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DougJR 20.12.2011 15:01

Reply to the Anonyous blog's. I'm afraid you are right! If this Law is signed on Wednesday you have no other alternative. If you believe in what your country stands for you have to fight for it.  The only hope you have of avoiding that is if your Military decide to support the people They are Americans too, just like your Corporations. They took an Oath to protect the people and Constitutio n against enemies foreign and domestic. It is obvious that your domestic enemies (Politicians, Wall Street, Military Chiefs) who sign, influence and support Laws like this are a problem to be dealt with. You need them on your side (incl the Police). You need to give them a chance to "Choose" whose side they are on!

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the kennel man 19.12.2011 15:34

Who let the dogs out? we did woof woof Who let the dogs out? We let the dogs out and closed the kennel.

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Amy Barnes 17.12.2011 18:31

At least we know what is going on - so let's get the party started, shall we?

Start by simply asking questions - WHO are the people both involved and responsible? What are their names?  What businesses do they own?  Where do they live?  Do they have family?  What churches do they go to?  Are they an attorney?  What professional licenses do they have?  Do they depend upon anything for an income?  Who insures them?  What vehicles do they have?  How did they get what they have?  What education do they have?  Where did they go to college?  Who supports them?

And *best* of all - how will they feel when they know that we are asking these questions? 

"Remember, Students: There are no stupid questions!"

F ollow the money trail, people...

Kasim Reed is the acting Mayor of the City of Atlanta in Georgia.  He decided to create Metro Atlanta UASI (Urban Area Security Initiative) *after* he was elected (no disclosures required!) in order to receive contracts from his administration in office to use DHS funding to pay for police and "security" equipment and training.  $11,000 was spent on Power Bars! 

The public has a right to view the contracts its  governments pay for.  So use those rights - search for connections and money trails.  And, when ya find one, DON'T stop running your mouth about it -- politicians *LOVE* free publicity, so sock it to 'em!

Recruit others to help you.  Then go run door to door with Recall campaigns as fast as you can.  Drum up support because illegal activities' supporters can win awesome prizes like jail time and fines if they are "conspirators..."&nb sp; Let's get the search party started, people!

Someo ne has asked all the right questions and Kasim Reed's brother is suddenly no longer allowed to drive city vehicles with zero license as he had done for *years*.  Is anyone else cheering?

Wit h love from lucky No. 8 out of 53-ish arrested at Troy Davis Park in Atlanta, GA!

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Anonymous (unregistered) 17.12.2011 04:09

 

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Anonymous (unregistered) 17.12.2011 04:08

--Post in public places-- Whereas, on the 14th of December, 2011, the House of Representatives of these United States voted in favor of indefinite military detention, without charges, of any American, anywhere, anytime, without due process of law, at the discretion of the government alone;   Whereas, on the 15th of December, 2011, the Senate of these United States voted in favor of the same bill;   W hereas, the proscription against the use of military force to police the populous has been an essential feature of American civic life and civic liberty since the arrival of our civilization upon this continent;   Whereas, the wanton violation of this proscription was one of the chief causes of the separation of the American peoples from their government in Great Britain;   Whereas, the Constitution so chartering the government of these United States does not grant this power;   Whereas, the Constitution forbids the addition of any power not enumerated to the general government;   ; Whereas, the use of such draconian measures has been an essential feature of the enforcement of tyranny by totalitarian governments of the 20th century, including, but not limited to, the Nationalist-Soc ialist government of Germany, the fascist government of Italy, the government of the United Soviet Socialist Republics, and the government of Vietnam; &nbs p; Whereas, the use of such draconian measures is carefully calculate d to quash all political dissent amongst a captive people;   Whereas, the codification of such draconian measures effectivel y nullifies all civil liberties the people may hope to hold;   W hereas, the codification of such draconian measures are the last act in the quest to hold a people captive to the rapacious will of their government without recourse;   And whereas, the codification of such draconian measures is an act of war against the populous at large;

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Ishmael 16.12.2011 20:28

Poet and AIM activist John Trudell predicted this scenario back in 2003 here. 33,000,000:   http://www.youtube. com/watch?v=zG7TLCh- lKM   prepare for the OWS movement to be labeled as "Economic Terrorists" as they take on the Predatory Industrial Ruling Class. There are NEW Crimes Coming.

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Silent Majority 16.12.2011 20:18

When the military storms down your door for suspicion of “belligerent” acts, you can thank Bluewater and Senator Portman for the lovely flame-proof attire the soldiers will be donned in as they haul you off to Gitmo. ================== ==================== ===========   Whatever. I'll be punching holes all through their fire-proof material, their squad-cars and anything else they decide to bring. ;) Hopefully it's quite an absorbent material, because I really don't want my front lawn soaked in blood.

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Tropical 16.12.2011 19:21

^Christ i misquoted the wrong comment and there is no way to edit it...

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Tropical 16.12.2011 19:17

"Michelle is RIGHT! The GOPbots can qoute Fox news, but can't post the actual sections in the bill 1031 and 1032 that CLEARLY STATE NO AMERICAN WILL BE DETAINED! The President has been against those measures from the start when the GOP put it in there, i.e. Obama vetoing it. But since Congress changed the measures the veto has been pulled back. 
I can't post the sections its too big. GO to Congress website, look up the NDAA and search for the sections. And while you're at it, READ the whole BILL. It is a bill that is placed for vote on a regular basis. 
GOP sheep, break from your masters and READ THE BILL FOR YOURSELVES!"
My friend, this is exactly why Obama promised us he'd veto it. So they could take advantage of the poor, proud Americans who still believe in our government like any of us should...and want to. He'd say he'd veto, they make "changes" to the bill, they pass it. Nothing good comes from this bill. Only me going through articles about the Nazi reign, the black list, Tiananmen Square and other blatant examples that we as a people have not seem to have learned from.

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jimmiller5417 16.12.2011 18:23

Continuatin of OPEN LETTER TO ROCKY ANDERSON
Second, we have the forces of good versus evil, light versus darkness, love versus hate, the poor versus the rich, and the 80% versus the 20%. As unorganized as the “rabble” may seem, after a large number of defeats of the OCCUPIERS by CSA's shock troops, a majority of the General Assemblies will realized that they have to organize into multiple defenders of freedom in each state, in each voting precinct, town, city and region. We need many very competent and ethical candidates to get on the ballots in each state and voting area.

T hird, the organizations should have at least one, well crafted plan of many parts so that we do not work at cross-purposes but we do use our limited resources with maximum leverage. You can bet your bottom dollar that the Republicrats have such a plan; probaby they have many plans in order to meet and best anything the Justice Party can throw at them. The New Party plan needs creation, definition, discussion, consensus, funding, and activation. The outline exists. See: the plan for the NEW PARTY (name is placeholder): http:// thedragonsteeth .wetpaint.com

Sincerely, J ames E. Miller, JD jimmiller5417@gm ail.com



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jimmiller5417 16.12.2011 18:20

OPEN LETTER TO ROCKY ANDERSON Dear Mr. Anderson,

You are either the bravest person in America or the craziest for wanting to clean-up the mess created by Bush and Obama. I choose to believe you are the bravest.

First, we have the opposition:

The Corporate State of America (CSA) currently owns probably 80% of the members of Congress, the Presidency, and a majority on the Supreme Court. CSA also owns many governors and members of the state legislatures. The CSA also owns those living the LUSH LIFE, which is probably at least four million American voters. There are probably another ten million or more living just below the Lush Life who aspire to the Lush Life and vote Republican or Blue Dog Democrat. The CSA, as owners of the Mogul Media, heavily influence the “dumbed down” voters with a torrent of propaganda, mixed with mind-numbing trivia produced for television, radio, movies and assorted other venues. The CSA has been instrumental in shaping the content of our educational systems to make sure no “controversial” subjects are mentioned in our schools. “Controversial” means anything contrary to the ruling elite's beliefs, purposes and pleasures. The CSA has an enormous cow pattie to sling at any advesary, and they have plenty of manure in reserve to make more cow patties. The CSA is one of the many minions of the NEW WORLD ORDER, and thus additional resourc es from the Rothschild Group, the Bilderberger Group, the Tavistock Institute, the Clubs of Rome, and many “Astroturf” fr onts. Voter apathy will arise because of the massive confusion from the fight by the Justice Party for its candidates against the Republicratic Party's candidates . This confusion will be aided and abetted by the “Poop-agandi sts” employed by the CSA. For the Rest of the Aricle beyond the 2000 character limit, see: http://thedrag onsteeth.wetpaint.co m/page/OPEN+LETTER+T O+ROCKY+ANDERSON%2C+ JUSTICE+PARTY

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stoptheh8t 16.12.2011 18:05

Michelle is RIGHT! The GOPbots can qoute Fox news, but can't post the actual sections in the bill 1031 and 1032 that CLEARLY STATE NO AMERICAN WILL BE DETAINED! The President has been against those measures from the start when the GOP put it in there, i.e. Obama vetoing it. But since Congress changed the measures the veto has been pulled back.
I can't post the sections its too big. GO to Congress website, look up the NDAA and search for the sections. And while you're at it, READ the whole BILL. It is a bill that is placed for vote on a regular basis.
GOP sheep, break from your masters and READ THE BILL FOR YOURSELVES!

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Stephan Watkins 16.12.2011 16:35

Line Item Veto? 

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dixienormns 16.12.2011 15:47

stop doing it one at a time shut the gov down the satalites/phones and power off put the usa back into the stone age  and have a good ole fashion french revolution

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krylonblaza 16.12.2011 09:08

This act is in itself terrorism. here's one definition that i feel describes very clearly what police have been doing to protesters as well as the implecations of this act: 
The usual definition of terrorism is something like "the use or threat of violence, by small groups against non-combatants of large groups, for avowed political goals." The key to this definition is the combination of small groups killing non-combatants. Terrorism is the warfare of the weak, the recourse of those desperate for a cause that cannot win by conventional means. But it is worth noting that state terrorism against a state's own citizens--as practiced by Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol-Pot, and many smaller-league tyrants--has killed millions of non-combatants, whereas the anti-state terrorism we usually focus on has killed thousands.

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DHelman 16.12.2011 05:37

I'm going to guess that this will provoke quite a large response from Congress -- and that the world will not again be the same.
Suspending "due process" is an act of treason.  Who is there to impeach Congress?  So I consider that we are on the verge of true lawlessness in this country, that things are going to get much, much worse.

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