Israel’s politics of solving the “Palestinian question”
Published: 28 October, 2009, 01:52
Edited: 19 November, 2010, 16:59
Israel is genuinely scared of Palestinians. Their approach to the Arab population and the Palestinians cannot be called anything but the “Palestinian Question.” The policies that Israel enacts are aimed at decreasing the quality of life in Gaza and other Muslim dominated areas for one reason only – to decrease the birth rate of Palestinians and decrease the available land in order to contain the...
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Fred,
October 28, 2009, 22:38
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Alexey,
Thank you for highlighting some ongoing acts of barbarism committed by Israel against the Palestinians. I appreciated your piece. In your last paragraph, you stated you do not support the means used by "terrorist organizations" to fight Israel. You rightfully questioned why Israel would carry out such policies, but you labeled Israel a "civilized state" and you referred to the Palestinians organizations that use violence as "terrorist organizations." As George Galloway noted most people around the world consider Israel a terrorist state. Now, let me be clear to you, I condemn all forms of terrorism. But you cannot point the finger at the slave and condemn his violence while calling the slave master civilized. There is nothing civilized about Israeli policy towards Arabs in Israel proper and, certainly not, in the occupied terror ties. How are they civilized? Is it because Israel is a client state of the U.S. and by default it becomes "civilized?" Or do you jest? And this brings me to my central point. You highlighted some of the abuses carried out by Israel, but you did not mentioned one word about Washington funding these atrocities and providing unwavering diplomatic support-- a carte blanche. Remember, during the Reagan administration, Nelson Mandela was on the State Department's official list of terrorists; black South Africans suffered under a U.S. supported apartheid regime. The Palestinians continue to suffer under the foot of a U.S. supported apartheid regime.
You conclude by stating,” Both sides need to peacefully sit down and talk." In order to talk and have serious negotiations, parties to a dispute need a neutral arbiter-- the U.S. is the biggest road block to that peaceful negotiation as it continually rewards Israel for massacres, provides cover for Israel barbarity, and demonizes the Palestinians in its mass media. Washington doesn't seem to blink at the Israeli butchery committed in Gaza and the West Bank-- the billions keep flowing.
Fred.......Oregon, USA.......
u.n. resolution 181 (in 1947) divided Israel into a palestinian state and an israeli state. but then the palestinians and their arab buddies started multiple wars with israel and lost their land. this is on top of the fact that islam didn't start until 500 ad and the jews have been on the land for thousands of years (jesus kicked it there for example). i'd love to come out to oregon and just take your house, or at least lob some rockets into your backyard. and then i'm going to get a bunch of assholes like you to say that you are a war criminal and lots of other bullshit.
Robert,
Your comment is nonsensical. Everything Fred wrote is spot on. You talk about firing missiles at Oregon, which shows you don't have a grasp of the situation. A more accurate analogy is if you were keeping people locked in the hallway of your apartment building with no food or water (and tortured them on your way home everyday), and then some of these people in the hallway decided to kick in your front door. That is a fitting analogy Robert. Israel is commiting state terrorism, violating numerous U.N . resolutions, and has no moral or legal credibility. Free the Palestinians!
Paul
They treat Palestinian Prisoners terribly plus those who are charged many times are innocent. They are either tortured or imprisoned until they plead guilty.
The Palestinian problem cannot be solved. Average Palestinian woman has nine children. No economy in the world is able to support such population growth. In particular the Palestinian economy does not even exist. All Palestinian budget comes from donations and unemployment is over 80%. There are just too many people growing up without education, qualifications and jobs. Their only purpose in life is to create problems for Israel. The Palestinian state has no chance to exist on its own. It can only be a puppet state artificially kept alive.
Depopulation strategy in the future might be a survival strategy because if a hostile Palestinian population becomes a majority that would have dire effects on Jews and non-Muslim citizens of Israel where Israel would cease to exist as when Muslims become a significant majority over there Christian or other non-Muslim inhabitants usually involves ethnic cleansing of it’s non Muslims inhabitants as an example Kashmir over 300,000 ethnic Indians, Chechnya over 200,000 ethnic Russians, Serbs from Bosnia and over 200,000 Serbs from Kosovo also mention that Hamas was involved in the Jihad in Bosnia and Chechnya against Serbs and Russians claiming decent from SS division in Bosnia during WW2. Also cite killing of Buddhists in Thailand, Christians in Philippines, Han Chinese in Xinjing province, regions in Africa, etc even civil strife between different Muslim groups with civil war in Algeria and Pakistan.
It is extremely hypocritical however for Jewish groups to be spearheading the immigration policy into Europe and the US as well as prominent Jewish figures in the feminist movement and free abortion that has helped change the demographics of Europe and the US.
Also to mention there sponsorship and support along with Zionist Jewish Neocon like Pearle supporting Islamic movements with clear connections to international terrorism across the world other than Palestine most noticeably in the Balkans, Chechnya and Russia’s other regions and Xinjing with the US the only country to recognize it as independent East Turkmenistan
As the late Tom Lantos addressing Nicholas Burns of the State Department said:
"Let me just raise a few items, Mr. Secretary. The first one: just a reminder to the predominantly Muslim-led governments in this world that here is yet another example that the United States leads the way for the creation of a predominantly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe. This should be noted by both responsible leaders of Islamic governments, such as Indonesia, and also for jihadists of all color and hue. The United States' principles are universal, and in this instance, the United States stands foursquare for the creation of an overwhelmingly Muslim country in the very heart of Europe."
General Wesley Clark during the bombing of Serbia:
"There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th-century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multiethnic states.”
In 1947 Palestine was divided not the way you claim.
Alexey Sazonov:
I can tell from your post that you don't understand the issue you're writing about in-depth. Please, before you make another post about the Palestinians or the Israeli-Arab conflict, take a look at some news sources that relay perspectives other than that of the Jihadist or naive leftist. You'd be surprised. The Arab side will often report terrorists shot after opening fire on Israeli soldiers as being killed in cold blood. The situation Israel is facing in the Palestinian territories today--and with the Arabs who formally live within Israel--is not all that dissimilar from the situation Russia faces in the Caucasus and with Muslim migrant workers.
The big difference is the demographics. Since the 1970s, the Jewish birthrate has been rising and the Muslim birthrate has been falling in Israel and the Palestinian territories. Right now we're at a point where the two numbers are close to meeting, and though any number of changes may happen in the future what's known is that the demographic time bomb that those who call for Israel's destruction like to talk about is not going to go off for generations to come. You can read more about this under-reported issue at the Happy Arab News Service blog: http://happyarabnews.blogspot.com/2009/04/true-convergence.html
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