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Senate approves indefinite detention and torture of Americans

December 02, 2011 16:50

The terrifying legislation that allows for Americans to be arrested, detained indefinitely, tortured and interrogated — without charge or trial — passed through the Senate on Thursday with an overwhelming support from 93 percent of lawmakers.

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Alex Povolotski 31.05.2013 14:34

Way to go, Senate people! You have created yet another police state. Adolf would be proud!

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Kathleen Moore, Habeas Corpus Canada 13.01.2012 17:14

It's not "LAW", it's a bluff.  In Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425 (1886). Justice Field correctly said:

"An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed."

Deli vering the opinion of the Court in Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137 in 1803, Chief Justice John MARSHALL said this of unconstitutional laws:

"If, then, the courts are to regard the constitution, and the constitution is superior to any ordinary act of the legislature, the constitution, and not such ordinary act, must govern the case to which they both apply."

The NDAA and the Patriot Act are inherently VOID because contrary to the US constitution. Do not believe these LIES, i.e., that it was "passed", that it is "law", and more importantly, do NOT repeat them, or you help them to install an ILLUSION of a police state. You allow your police, military and other officers to falsely believe they must obey and implement VOID police-state laws.

Get the constitutional explanation here: 

http://canad ian-state-of-the-uni on.blogspot.com/2012 /01/ndaa-and-patriot -act-are-void-and-of -no.html

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Steve Bennett 02.01.2012 17:24

Section 1022: "The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to citizens of the United States."

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Liam (unregistered) 17.12.2011 22:30

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Good old quote from ma man; Ben Franklin!I think its applies.

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Byron Crockett 16.12.2011 20:48

I hope that one of those that selected this law be treated in the same affect because it doesn't make since to make such a destructive law for possible great upright standing people due to possible conclusions of terrorist person or setup! We need to take a stand as Americans! I do not like to see innocent people destroyed and lose their lives doe to a mistake!

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K. Phelps 13.12.2011 19:46

The bill is called HR 1540.

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Mohamad 11.12.2011 14:25

There was recently a terrorist attack on the statue of liberty, the threat that caused this attack is no other then the 93 senators that voted aye on the NDAA bill. They have proclaimed war against its own citizens under a clowd of mass paranoia and corruption. Rand Paul is the hope, the fire of which Lady Liberty hersepf holds for a properly led democracy to be upheld and under which Liberty and Justice for all. Now I am 16 years old, I'm Iranian and I was born in Russia, if i could had came from such a violent background as these area's and i can recognize the NDAA as being unconstitutional and draconian, then there must be something wrong with the Senate, I don't like the idea of the occupy movement but it seems to me we have no other choice. 

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Konstos 10.12.2011 17:44

sad news..

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Ry (unregistered) 10.12.2011 00:48

This article is inaccurate. The Authorization Act does not apply to American citizens. It actually says in the bill that U.S. citizens are exempt. See for yourselves and next time, check your sources before getting all riled up over nothing.http://www.g ovtrack.us/congress/ billtext.xpd?bill=h1 12-1540 

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Lukáš Vekter 09.12.2011 11:04

I suppose, that this is how the rest of democracy is dying, and war will soon begin...

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Mike (unregistered) 09.12.2011 03:32

 "When a member of Al Qaeda or a similar associated terrorist group, I want . . . them to be terrified about what's going to happen to them in American custody."

Iro nic.

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traped behind enemy lines 08.12.2011 22:04

I am trapped here i cant get out. They have collapsed the economy so people can not afford to get out. This is a police state and if one person stands up to fight for freedom the constitution or the bill of rights neighbors tattle on the people then the media says they are terrorist and the majority cheers as we are dragged away shot beaten or both. The American society is sick the governemnt has programed most to beg for slavery and they will gladly watch a fellow american die and cheer as a fellow citizen is beaten by the jack bot gestapo. Every day we have police shoot children kick in doors and murder innocent citizens because a bank wants to foreclose, swat teams kill families  and the majority of sheep bow down and praise the same people that just murdered their sons and raped their daughters. America is gone and there is no shell of it the help needs to be given to the few that are trying to escape. i want out but no country will accept me i can not get out. I am not a million air i am a blue collar worker making 13$ an hour, i have a degree but that does not help the system is designed to keep us trapped in this prison for ever and we will die by the hand of these crazy power mad globalists. The Fema camps are being maned at this moment. There are massive gas chambers all over america as well as hundreds of thousands of coffins stored all over the country.

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Julian (unregistered) 08.12.2011 03:33

Oh sweet jesus, why is it that anyone remains a citizen of the land of the free. Your government is now free to f*ck you over any which way they like, why are you not all rioting in the streets?
This shows U.S. government intentions very clearly, welcome to a new era of slavery and fear in these, the United States.

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Dolphin 07.12.2011 20:44

@English, anybody from the UK should be about the last person to point a finger at America. It was England that suckered us into WWI by selling cut rate tickets to Americans on a ship that was designed to sink if torpedoed. England lied about NOT carrying weapons on the Lusitania, when diver shave since discovered the wreck and found huge stores of weapons onboard. Germans had every right to torpedo her, as they KNEW she carried weapons.   Th e US policy in the middle east is only the continuation of the former English policy. You English aren't going to kick fook out of anybody because you aren't even allowed to own an air rifle over 12 foot pounds of energy without a special permit. As for fat, lazy and obnoxious people, I would say the English tourists won that title on my last trip to France.   An English rock star stated on American television that a big fence should be built around England and the place declared the world's biggest insane asylum.   BTW , your national debt is 500% of your GNP. That means that at only 5% interest rate, it takes 25% of your entire GNP just to pay the interest on national debt before any money goes to anything else. You will be so poor that you will kick the fook out of people oppressing you in your bare feet.

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