“America lives in a fascist state” – Gerald Celente
Published: 19 April, 2009, 09:47
Edited: 30 April, 2010, 12:21
The merger of corporate and government powers in modern America is plain and simple fascism, believes Gerald Celente, the founder of the Trends Research Institute and publisher of Trends Journal.
Many a true word spoken in this interview, the ordinary American is being duped big time. Basically it is a corporate takeover of government as is correctly potrayed. Obama is bringing change, short-change to the American people. In simple terms he is turning credit they cannot pay, into taxes they must pay. Yes, it will bail the corporates out, the government is seeing to it, that the people do that. But in the end, the people still have a debt to pay, now to the government, that criples their disposable income. There can be no growth from this. So the cycle will be repeated again, on top of the huge tax burden placed on the people, the corporates will then extend credit again to try to stimulate growth. So now the people, will have the tax that came from a credit to tax swap on their back, plus the new credit, they must take in order to have some semblence of a decent life. Basically the American people is being forced into a borrow to survive scenario, because their income is already being taken by force through taxes to pay for the corporate families. This model is obviously unsustainable, if the new credit tranche, generates interest service costs above what is left of the diminished wage packet due to higher taxes. Then the growth trajectory becomes one of almost stagnation. So, what would be a way out; basically the only route out, now that America in itself is corporate (government and corporations joined at the hip) itself, is to pressure internationaly for more credit to be given to itself, or more wealth acquired through conquest, like securing soft oil reserves in the middle east by force. Both of these approaches would yield more cash balance for America incorporated. This would allow the country to employ more people through government programs and lift inflation slightly, to restore the peoples previous cash position against thier taxes and credit liabilities. However, whilst this could fix the domestic issues, it may not be a long term solution, yes if the US can steal enough wealth to take into their GDP or at least cover their interest service charges, then that could be a solution, however, if they can't, then America, either faces a default, or the propect of a projection of widespread aggression across the globe to secure wealth assets. So, in reality the fate of corporate America, will have a masive impact on the security of other nations, who possess saleable assets. The trend to move outwards, driven by this need, can already be seen, it is no accident that Obama is focussing heavily on foreign policy early on in his presidency. What you can see now, is the soft request for credit and a share of other countries wealth. If that is not successful, then soon you will see the hard reqeust through military force, as a continuation of the Bush oil program. So in short, the American people are being short changed and there is a chance that in order to better their position, the American government will project greater destabilising military force across the globe, in search of peace at home. So taking a Russian angle on this, we need make sure we are not a soft enough target with regard to our resources. Then we can just remain spectators in this drama. Yes, we are linked in a global financial sense, however the word is global, and we are already seeking greater contact and relationships with the other parts of the global economy that will allow us more easily to take a spectator view.
It seems to me that you do not understand what I, and many other peoples write. America is like any other country, including Russia who has adopted the free enterprise system, commonly called: capitalism. When money become more important than human, then the later become the slave of that money; he loose by his own free will all liberties. A man who each month, for whatever reason, must give half or more of his wages to a bank become, by his own choice: a slave. This rule apply everywhere and is instigated by the small minority to whom this system profit. The first article of the american constitution is: all men are created equal. We find an identical phrase in the declaration of human's rights. It was the biggest joke ever made. It has never been applyed; neither in the USA or in France or anywhere else. When we see the abuses made on that subject in the past half century, since we pretend to be so smart and sophisticated, we get to wander: what futur has mankind ! It is a fact: the capitalist system and the american way of life; what by abusing the vocabulary, we have the guts to call: "democracy" is nothing but a huge bluff. It confirm what Julius Cesar was supposed to have said 2000 years ago: Governing idiots is so much easier than leading well educated peoples; the first ones don't ask questions. The BRIC countries and mostly Russia had the opportunity to request a complete change at the G-20 meeting. They did not change anything, except sucking up to the capitalist masters in total admiration before the "Barnum- Obama-Circus" show which goes on. For how long, this will continue ? How sincere is that man ? When will the US president remove all his military and spying installations set-up outside America; including that useless and stupid anti-missiles 'shield. Why can the 95 % of humans who are not US citizen deceide to boycott and embargo America until she become a decent member of the communauty of nations. What the USA did to Cuba can be done to them ! I am convinced that if someone courageous will talk frankly and firmly to the american decisions'makers, many citizen of the USA will applaud. Like the rest of us they are tired to see a few thousand croocks putt in peril the great majority of humans...Sorry Futur Generations ! Sincerely... Jean-Claude Meslin Tel: +33450240275
Good to see RT giving time to a true resister, who speaks the TRUTH. In the other hand it is a shame that RT gives again and again air time to agents of the CIA Web of Disinformatiomn, like Alex Jones.
When Mussolini talked about the Corporate State, he was not necessarily refering to business corporations. The corporations, in his formulation, were groups within society. Corporatism was not his intellectual invention, either, as an idea it has a long history.
"The merger of state and government is called fascism." Intelligent discourse? I would like someone to explain the meaning of this concluding remark.
The truth - if only people would listen. Most that I know think "everything is fine" as it says on the tee shirt. This country is down the tubes. Meslin says it right - "money has become more important than human". Or for that matter, Nature. They are killing all our bears and wolves in Alaska, and the Northwestern states (Montana, Idaho, etc.) want to kill all the wolves. The first European settlers killed off most of the buffalo, and now the Ag. Dept. is killing off the last of the pure American buffalo.
I believe that Mr. Celente is correct about the fascism in the U.S. However I don't think he understands that the U.S. is the most well armed nation on the planet. You don't have enough police or military in this country to put down an armed rebellion. Particularly if that armed rebellion also knows how to take out police communications. It's going to get interesting to say the leas.t
Yeah , the fix is in. Most American these days care more about entertainment and are not as pragmatic as they used to be. Obama and his super hype media will soon fizzle out. One can only hide the truth for so long. The media recently ignored the Tea parties all over America as a revolt against his trillion dollar budget just like it ignored Russia's right to attack Georgia last August. Last August the American media blamed Russia as it still promotes the idea Russia is communist Soviet Union. Obama spent the most money in world history proving you can "buy" the presidency. So far Obama refused to pay respect to our American dead in Normandy, France when he was in Europe but bowed to the Arab king. He called our veterans potential terrorists but declines to use the word terrorists against the Taliban. He is attacking his own CIA for water torture while the muslim terrorists cut off people's heads and really torture women for voting or going to school in Iraq. He finally allowed the use of our special forces to rescue the captain from the pirates but refused to attack the pirate ship itself. Obama promised to bring back all our troops from Iraq this summer but he will not. Obama's only skill is speaking like another talking head on TV. He is not even an American. His birth certificate that he shows on the internet does not have his size and weight as a baby nor does it have the the parents address information or name of the hospital as all birth certificates from the 1960's. I was born a year after Obama and my birth certificate makes his look like a book. If you do not believe me then do not be afraid of the truth and see it for yourself. His web site that was made to fight lies against him is here and it obviously is missing his size and weight, hospital name and parents address information: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate. His lies about his birth is only the tip of the iceberg. Who is really willing to see the truth in America??? Those who are for him follow him as the Nazis followed Hitler. No reasoning behind it. If you say something negative against Obama you are immediately called crazy or a racist. How quick they try to cover the truth. Only the intelligent can perceive the truth and they number only a few. They no longer teach empirical science or the search for truth in schools. It has past away as investigative journalism has.
Hey he’s Italian, moaning and venting comes naturally ;) Revolution is strong talk, and what I would like to know is, what is the plan once you have stormed the white house? If revolution with no plan means handing the nuclear keys back to Bush and Co under a state of marshal law… then you are a fake. Obama certainly seems to be weak, he bends to the strongest breeze, but you need a plan, Italian man. Do you even know why the bankers mortgaged the USA? I doubt it, and greed is not the answer. You right about one thing, the USA is run by fools.
According to the Websters dictionary Fascism is defined as: A political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. That comes much closer to describing Iran, not America. These bailouts may be unwise, but it's too early to tell. They could end up being the thing that saves us from going into a depression. Clearly the current administration as well as the last are simply trying to keep the country running as smoothly as possible, which is what the majority of American's went out and freely and democratically elected them to do. If they do it competently that's another matter. It really would much more helpful if people who disagree with current policy would offer solutions and alternatives instead of trying to paint horrible labels associated with death and suffering onto what many good American's are trying to do to keep our country going.
This man is correct. Americans now will have to pay dearly for the excesses they have all enjoyed since Truman and for going completely to sleep at the switch called the well-informed ballot. But, because information is now in the hands of two men, the chance of becoming a well-informed voter is actually nil. Americans, it is over. Surprisingly, Celente has missed the next big trend... China. China is taking the American economic mess as the chance to buy up South America and Africa, and at bargain prices because the US Dollar is out of the picture. China has enough US Dollars to buy Vermont, cash. Hey, check who owns what in America... L.A. docks by Mid East money. In fact Mid East investors are in a bind as the Dollar goes down. China cares, but does not have to do so, really, because they hold all the cards for the future and are already fully in charge of their people (just shoot some and beat the rest, they will go home), so they do not need the niceness of US laws. So, tell your grandchildren to learn Chinese now and beat the rush. Good Luck. PS, I live in Thailand because it has abundance of what the future will desperately need: water and rice.
Yeah, the only 'facist' state that still takes on the fight for a free world. Free of socialist thief gangsters. Socialism: a gang that is assembled to kill and confiscate other peoples' hard earned money. Get real!
I agree with the conclusion of this article, but I have to say that Geralg Callente did not answer the first question. That is the biggest problem we face here in the USA, nobody knows what to do about our problems. The solutions are out there. Take Lynden Larouch for example. But his ideas will never reach everyone. The media tells lies, twists the minds of the people. Who would expect them to broadcast the truth, who would expect them to cite a solution? They will never do it. Has anyone even listened to Martin Luther King Jr? This has been going on for some time now, and there are three schools of people now; the blissfully ignorant, the rightously outraged, and the victems of the mass stanford experiment called life in america. So the intelligent people are attacked by the ignorant, and the media says we are the threat. When the real threat is those that have been driven into a role, turned into a sadist. Media is the problem, if anyone wants to help america then figure out how to get free press back to the masses. Being ignorant is no longer an option if we want to survive.










I disagree that as said ‘this is Obama’s policy’. Not even 100 hays have passed since Obama become the president. Obama has inherited a country on a brink of a catastrophe that has been created by his predecessors. It is absolutely correct to label the US as a totalitarian fascist police state. With 16 spying agencies Americans have no privacy and no freedom of speech or association. By contrast Hitler had only three such agencies and Stalin one. Americans are also told where they can travel and where not. Americans are told with whom they can trade and do business. Laws like the Patriots Act prohibits any criticism of the authorities. In this imperialist colonial state Americans themselves are the most enslaved. And that is what 'freedom' and 'being free' represents in America. Current economic crisis has been building up during the last 18 years. Only because the US is a totalitarian state no whistle blowers dared to come forward and start debate on the direction the country took. That is unlit it was too late. Obama has plenty of repair work to do. His first days in office indicate that he started to do that.