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“The American empire will collapse by 2020”

Published: 30 October, 2009, 20:13
Edited: 19 September, 2010, 23:18


America’s global influence is on the decline and by 2020 the US Empire will collapse, claims author of the book “The Fall of the US Empire - and Then What?” Johan Galtung. But it will only benefit from it, he told RT.

 
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Bianca October 30, 2009, 18:46 quote
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I did not catch the name of the journalist talking to Johan Galtung. I was astounded by the arrogance in her manner and questions. She is mimicking exactly the brash style of the US Empire, and using just the same phrases and false logic constructs? She has imposed herself into the interview, leaving us with the impression that the guest is just some old fuddy-duddy, who does not "understand" that peace is just not always possible. In fact, she went even that far, as to concoct the same old imprerial threat justification, to make a case that dialogue can be exhausted. What a missed opportunity. Mostly thanks to the esteemed guest, we were able to have a glimpse of what he was trying to say. These kind of "pop" interview perhaps is OK for rap musicians, where being aggressive is just a style. In this context, it was embarrasing. The journalist sounded like an airhead, who upon hearing the news of the improved economy, just steemrolled over the guest with a different oppinion. I really wish RTV the best, but the quality of reporting is at times too arrogant, insensitive to the need of being respectfull, and is unfortunately at times speculative and prone to excess.

Meslin October 30, 2009, 19:26 quote
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This is an evidence; but there is a few details which cannot be forgiven: 1) America possess over 10000 nucleaire war-heads. 2) When talking about american, you must separate the few thousands greedy croocks, who were the subject of President Eisenhower (January 21th 1961) and the great majority of decent humans who have simply falled asleep, listening to the syrenes of freedom, equal opportunity, american dream etc. Now, with the trillions $ spent to save banks and huge multi-national corporation, when practically nothing was given to the millions US citizen who had lost their job, their home and their beliefs. American decisions'makers are on a tied rope and they better watch out. 3) Even if Russia seems to be more trusted than anyone-else by the american, your country must stay out. The US citizen just have to remember what their Constitution say to solve smoothly this change of system. Best regards... Jean-Claude Meslin

john October 30, 2009, 19:28 quote
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The evil will collapse within the next 2 years. Nothing indicates that the evil has recognized the seriousness of the situation. They should commit themselves to fiscal discipline; adopt balanced budgets and debt reduction programs. There is nothing of that. Instead they think that getting out of crisis is a matter of a resolution by Congress and spending more of the money they do not have.

Biloxi October 30, 2009, 20:26 quote
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Johan Galtung. Another great human being who can tell the story about empires without one iota of a stutter or stammer. Why would he not call it like it is -- everyone knew when George W. Bush the junior who was intentionally chosen to be the one world idea of totalitarian government in the new world order ignorance, anyway, when GWBjr was put into the decider position ... .... the whole world including Putin took notice and what a planet can be perceived, the future idea of US as empire builder for Israel and its partners which now have become so integrated with other empires, the serious problem of learning the lesson of empire is never lost on fools. 2020? No, it won't last until this date because the poly-addicted have become so toxic they do not know they are too ill to stop following the graveyard of empires and falling into the pit of monumental hubris. Rock star wannabes cannot lead a Republic of freedom. THANK YOU JOHAN GALTUNG for shining the bright lit beacon into the dark night of the soul here in the US.

Politrix D'Alfaz October 30, 2009, 22:11 quote
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Gotta Love this mans mind. Has always been on point in the past. This is absolutely in line with what Celenti has been saying.

johnx October 30, 2009, 23:26 quote
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I think Japan and the asian sphere will be the next world power.

Max October 31, 2009, 01:08 quote
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John Galtung may very well be a great human being( can't verify that )...he can tell a story about empires without a stutter or stammer....ALL empires fall sooner or later, but to put a date of 2020 on it shows a total absence of any Critical Thinking Skills. The poor guy is trying to sell a book. He has no sense of the "adaptability" of the USA...a mistake that so many make in predicting its future.

David October 31, 2009, 09:00 quote
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The sooner the better.

Dowell October 31, 2009, 15:13 quote
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October 30, 2009, 23:26, johnx wrote > I think Japan and the asian sphere will be the next world power. This May very well be the case. Along with other industries that the Asian sphere is dominating is the airline construction industry. China, with Comac, is sneaking in there

Aimilios G. Moschovitis October 31, 2009, 19:22 quote
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ALL FREEDOM AND DEMOCRATIE LOVING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN GREECE THAT SUFFERED DURING THE US ESTABLISHED AND MAINTAINED DICTATORSHIP MUST BE WILLING TO WEAKEN THE US DOMINATION. We must aim at what makes US strong. How US dominate it is a two volume 400 pages each …work. Roughly: Dollar, Military Force, NATO that aims at subordinating Europe to the US, the US and Jewish media, banks, “multinationals”, the economic, military, foreign government spying through NSA’s Echelon, high ranking multy job agents {12 jobs well known example}, domination of international organizations, specialized CIA agents in creating problems inside and outside target countries, by corrupting and assassinating leaders etc, 300 religions, boy scouts, YMCA, Rotary, Lions, Propeller Clubs of USA, Israel, Turkey, Albania, Georgia etc and and and Free Massons that are manipulated simultaneously by US and Jews… otherwise how could you explain the tolerance of western media for the aggressions in Palestine, in Lebanon, in Serbia, in Cyprus etc. By the past Russia tried to become an empire. Today the dissemination of information through computers etc will make it more and more difficult for one country to dominate the world. RUSSIA PROTECTED EUROPE FROM HITLER, NAPOLEON, TURKEY ETC AND IT IS DESIRABLE TO BE PROMOTED TO A WORLD POWER THROUGH RIGHTFUL STRATEGIES. For example: while the gang of western countries occupy mineral recourses through overthrowing and manipulating African and Latin American mainly governments, Russia could become the number one world contractor in helping other countries to posses, exploit and secure their own resources, thus becoming preferential partner in all sort of economic activities THE BEST WEAPON AGAINST THE US EMPIRE IS THE TRUE AND INTEGRAL INFORMATION AND THOROUGH STUDYING OF THE PROBLEMS THAT US CREATE IN THE WORLD.

Biloxi November 01, 2009, 00:27 quote
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Bianca, your ability to see and say what is, impresses all who read your words. Yes, all who are sentient and watched agree - the interviewer was a young twit (my label for her "youthful folly"). JOHAN GALTUNG, PLEASE address the manufactured (mutants, basically) humans in the US who were intentionally used as the subjects for experiments which began in (but of course) the east and its partners, Europe west. That is the problem with cannibalism - sold as the brand globalism - in the 21st Century: it is everywhere since the plan has been hatched and was incubated a long time ago. America is the mirror for all who have already tried on this dress-up, and thankfully those who can see (Russian leaders especially) know how the Rehearsal ends - with a bang so intense the whimper becomes it. HOPEfully, however, JOHAN GALTUNG's gene of altruism in his humor "Then What?" LOL ... .... Humor is the measurement of the highest level of intelligence/genius. Too bad the young interviewer is forgetting the difference between ego and wisdom. thanks again Bianca!

collapsing empire November 01, 2009, 07:29 quote
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Don't hold your breath waiting for America to collapse. The current slide can be slowed or reversed if the United States elects new leaders and gets back to abiding by the United States constitution. America will profit immensely by getting back to reality. A fair playing field can be established for all Americans vice everything for the rich ruling class. It is not necessary to rape the working people of America to ensure economic survival of the country. The old wealth foundations need to be taxed out of existance to give the power back to the people in general vice the rich controllers. Criminal prosecutions must be demanded for the wall street criminals that have almost taken America to it's knees and possible complicit government {POWER ELITE} enablers. Never count America out prematurely. Right now big money is ruining America, but I believe the American people are starting to see the hand writing on theb wall. There will be some very turbulent times in the political systems of America in the very near future. You can take that to the bank.

Christopher Porritt November 01, 2009, 17:42 quote
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The USA will still be a major economic & military power in 2020 but it will never regain the absolute dominance it achieved in 1945,i.e., 50% of world industrial production, atom bomb etc. The collapse of the America Empire will no be with a bang but a long steady decline relative to China, India, Russia, Brazil etc. It can only be good for the whole world if no one country dominates the planet.

jako777 November 01, 2009, 22:17 quote
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Nice observation and comment Bianca and Mr. Meslin....

ergatis November 03, 2009, 04:17 quote
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To Aimilios G. Moschovitis: I want to add to the things you say that in Greece, people suffer even after the dictatorship. True patriots are called facsists and along with the communists are being prosecuted in many covered forms. If you don't conform to the system, you can't have a good job, you don't get promotions, you aren't wanted in social activities and politics. Freemasons and other NWO clubs are controlling everything. Even some "leftists" became pro-USA. in order to survive in politics, being unable to stand against the US propaganda storm by the media. Many people in Greece like Russia and Putin but ALL the media are against. The news that S. Lavrov refused to exchange Ossetia's recognition with N. Cyprus recognition NEVER reached the Greek people... However, the news that Stalin is voted as a popular person were IMMEDIATELY broadcasted by all Greek media. Greek media are clearly pro-USA ignoring most of the people. It would be the best service to the Greek people if RT broadcasted its program with Greek subtitles. I know, I am asking too much...

Biloxi November 04, 2009, 09:55 quote
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Max GOSH DARN IT, just when I thought the NSA, Mossad, CIA, et al. were losing some of the money to do what it is they do best - troll and dribble. Please do not add more ignorance to the world, come with discourse we as intelligent beings can decipher and leave your wannabe spy nonsense in a tin can somewhere.

Patrick Henry November 07, 2009, 04:04 quote
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It may very well be that The US has seen the end of world domination, however, I don't think Americans on a whole really care about that. The bigger picture is Our Federal Governments insistence on intervening in every aspect of our lives

Sharon November 07, 2009, 17:24 quote
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I believe we ought to take care of USA first and foremost. The MiddleEast has been fighting for thousands of years, We are not going to stop them. they have a mind set we can't understand, We should try negotiations, but if they don't respect us who is going to give us the time of day. We're hated because we think our way is the best way, but we're dealing with cultures who see things much differantly than us, We have to respect that. We wouldn"t like it if some other country came over her to change us, We need to respect the people who do not want to co change. All we can do is Listen Listen and talk,talk,talk, and try to understand they like thier inderpendence too. I'm not saying we shouldn't protect ourselves, We should hav be gone to Afganistand not Iraq.That was the biggest mistake, afterall who took out the trade centers? Why are the Forces in controll so STUPID????? We need to show the People of the World We are capable of all differances of other Nations and not press our will on them. Try to reason with People, but also We need to Protect the World from those who would do us harm, just because we are differant. I am so Proud to be an American. I would not want to live any where else. But in our Goverment are Rouge People with other agenders. If we show respect to other Peoples, we will get it back....

fallside November 08, 2009, 05:15 quote
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RUSSIA PROTECTED EUROPE FROM HITLER, NAPOLEON, TURKEY ETC AND IT IS DESIRABLE TO BE PROMOTED TO A WORLD POWER THROUGH RIGHTFUL STRATEGIES Russia collaborated with German rearmanent in the 1920's & 30's. It provided the germans with testing facilities for their then illegal military equipment. Russia had a sneaky secret treaty with Adolf Hitler to seize half of Poland. It stole the independant countries in the Baltic. It murdered the intelligensia of those Baltic countries. It murdered the polish army officer class at Katyn. The U.S.A. has been the beacon of real democracy in the world. It struggles hard to bring genuine democracy to the muslim countries of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran. America is still the powerhouse of the world. The economic growth of China,India and other developing countries is down to the fact that we in the West have given them unobstructed access to our own markets. Even Russia's economy ís performing badly because of the recession in America. Joseph Stalin was a very bad man who mudered seventy million good Russians, including many of the Russian middle class. Honour and praise to the heroic struggle of the Red Army in their fight against fascism in the Second World War. Their courage and not the Communist Party

Larisa November 09, 2009, 00:32 quote
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Thanks to RT and to John Galtung for the interview, and I also wish RT the best, but I have to agree with Bianka. The interviewer (Dina Gusovsky?) whom I've seen on some other occasions is way too aggressive and is parroting the American "in your face" interviewing style. If Russia and RT, as its international voice want to be viewed as an independent, reasonable, trustworthy and wise, as opposed to the manipulative "on drugs" coverage in the west, they MUST make an effort to choose their people wisely and train them well. I hope these are growing pains and wish RT all the best.

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