For some, the search for what happened on 9/11 isn't over
Published: 10 March, 2010, 20:50
Edited: 23 October, 2010, 17:34
Jesse Ventura's new book American Conspiracies questions the government's position on 9/11. He wrote about the same topic on The Huffington Post, but his article was banned. Read it here on RT.
I simple can not believe that 9/11 will never be reinstevigated! Who ever look all those videos,vitness saying,expert analizes (Pentagon damage-not from plane- can not fit),planes without windows who hit W.T.C.,fire burning after 3 monts under WTC,Mossad agents who been filmed before(waiting) and in the time of attack,Bush liening that he see how first plane hit first WTCon TV monitor (impossible-it was shown next day),building 7 collaplse without reason,White plane over White house(millitary command center-lost in any news), Alive Terrorists(8 or 9) who live peacefully in their own states and so on and on....If you watch all of this do you believe in of. story? We talking about famillies who lost a loveones..about 3000 plus die and still people diening for the same reason in Iraq and Afganistan(2 plus millions,plus Usa soldiers)..Over 1000 Usa building experts put in signing peticion for reinvestigation!Majority Usa citizens are for that to so what is the problem? This is TO BE OR NOT TO BE ....Mr.Obama, please order new investigation......Thanke you!
It is absolutely brutal that for 9 years many of us have been railing on about this very topic and it still gets 0 coverage by the MSM, and if does get attention its a hit piece on some retarded talking heads blog that has 0 credibility and resorts mostly to ad hominem attacks and guilt by association. unfortunately too many americans have their heads stuck up reality tv's ass, or mourning mj or relentlessly villifying tiger woods to care. and silently our "government" passes bills to indefinitely detain us for no reason whatsoever if they SUSPECT we are terrorists. google S. 3081 Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act its all there in black and white. Not only that, they are trying to push the "slaughter" option on the health care bill that 90% of americans dont want http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTc4MWNmYTU1ZDhmYTM0NGQ5OGExMWMxMWJkYTYwOTc= which would allow them to pass the bill without enough votes with a very dubious clearly unconstitutional methodology of "passing" the bill. this is what our elected "representatives" view us as, completely expendable and useless, a nuisance to be detained for no reason indefinitely without trial. what is it goin to take to wake this country up? how far do they have to push us before we push back?
lets see; us airforce simulates an attack of the trade centers that morning , with a booklet of the towers in crosshairs, in the early hours before highjackings, ask yourself how a 767 can fly like a cruise missle and slam into the pentagon (most secure building in america) without being blown to smithereens buy a thousand missles, ask yourself how ALL THREE steel structures freefall to the ground one after another,explosives rip through the windows from the 2nd floor upward to the 45th story like a pack of firecrackers , ( pulled ground video- utube) , ask yourself how 30 foot lengths of girders are flying outward (they fit perfectly on trucks) cut at 45 degree angles with molten steel streeming from the tower in videos, PROOF of thermite working the beams ,the lease expired on 9/11, Silversteen says in video to'' PULL iT'' and he's NOT speaking of the poor firemen, who all gave thier life that DARK day, no to mention the 2000 degree fires burning for MONTHS under all that deep rubble, i am very sorry but this all makes no sense at all, none of it. say goodbye to democracy while you wake up !
It is a widely accepted opinion that 9/11 was an inside job, made by American official state institutions (CIA, Military), and even by some foreign institutions of states that are "friendly" to US (Mossad), to make an excuse for inserting US and NATO troupes into central Asia by attacking Afghanistan. They couldn't use the same excuse for attacking Iraq, so they invented MDW allegations to use them to occupy Iraq. This is so obvious even to every american child, but the response of the US official institutions and US (Israeli controlled) media is equaly childish: they use to keep forcing a deadly silence as to 9/11 bloodshed hoping that all will settle down after a decade or two. Some resistance though has been seen from US military intelligence top ranking individuals who have succeeded to stop attack on another country - Iran. I presume these guys will be celebrated one day as heroes who dared to stand up in tough times (I personally like to think about these guys as of true american patriots). IT IS THE SOULS OF THOSE 5000, OR MORE, INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS MURDERED IN THE TOWERS, THAT CRY OUT FOR THE REAL INSPIRATORS OF 9/11 BLOODSHED TO BE FULLY UNMASKED. I am somehow confident that wide masses of American citizens will eventually succeed in unvealing the real murderers of not less than 5000 victims of 9/11. I salute all brave Americans who fight for the truth, for they are fighting not only for them and for their country, but perhaps even more for the dignity of the whole world.
Funny, I believe my comment has never been published. But I gonna wright it again, so just to see if RT is really commited to freedom of speech as it claims. My comment was that I believe, that 9/11 and the 1999 Moscow bombings were the same thing - a false-flag attack carried out by each countries secret service, in order to gain public support for the government and its cause. A la "1984" in both cases...
Huffpo did Jesse a huge favor. If they had left his piece alone, few would have heard about it. Of course, it is their right to run their site as they see fit. I have a question about one issue that one could call conspiracy theory, but the NYT called "perhaps the deepest mystery" of 9/11 in an article by James Glanz shortly after the event. Only a single piece of steel was saved from WTC Building 7, to the best of my knowledge. It was studied by Prof. Jonathan Barnett and the results posted as FEMA Appendix C. Prof. Barnett found holes in the steel that appear to have been melted and perhaps evaporated by very hot sulfur gas. Some of the hot gas, as expected, reacted with the iron, forming iron sulfide. Prof. Barnett professed to have no explanation for where hot sulfur gas might have come from, nor how it became hot enough to melt or evaporate holes in a piece of steel. Some debunkers have caimed that the sulfur came from calcium sulfate in drywall. As a long-ago introductory chemistry student, I believe that is a chemical impossibility. There is simply no way sulfur, or sulfide, can be generated from sulfate in a fire in the presence of any oxygen. There are industrial processes that use carbon monoxide to generate calcium sulfide from calcium sulfate, but they run strictly in the absence of oxygen. I have added up the enthalpy of formation for the products and reactants of the two reactions. CaSO4 + 4 CO to CaS + 4CO2 is exothermic, but CaS + 2 O2 to CaSO4 is much more exothermic, meaning any sulfide would go to sulfate in a fire as long as there is oxygen available, regardless of whether there is some CO available. Bear in mind that air is 20% oxygen and CO is typically present at less than 1% in fire exhaust. If I am correct, which I ask chemsts to judge, then this evidence is comparable to a suspect's fingerprint in the victim's blood. There is no innocent explanation for Prof. Barnett's results. There is a "guilty" explanation: thermate.
Here are some facts surrounding the events on 9/11 that the mainstream western press would rather the public not know about. 1. Three buildings collapsed in the World Trade Center complex, not two as most people think. Building 7 was not hit by a plane, yet collapsed into it's own footprint. The reason a lot of people are not aware of building 7 is because it wasn't given major press coverage. Giving WTC building 7 coverage would prompt uncomfortable questions from the public. 2. The north and south towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts from a Boeing 707 which was the biggest airliner flying at the time of the buildings design. 3. Both towers collapsed in near freefall fashion in around 10 seconds. This defies the laws of physics for a structure made of steel and concrete. 4. The Bush administration did not want to investigate the 9/11 and only did so after being pressured by members of the public. 5.Out of the four hijacked planes on 9/11 none of the pilots managed to punch in the hijack code which would have notified the FAA as to what's going on. 6. Hani Hanjour who allegedly hijacked Flight 77 had logged zero hours in a Boeing 757 and according to his instructor was rubbish in a Cessna which is a light aircraft, then goes on to fly the 757 in a manouvre that would give experienced pilots a tough time and then carry on to hit the Pentagon with pinpoint precision. 7. No major wreckage that suggests a 757 airliner crashed at the Pentagon was found. 8. CCTV tapes from a nearby gas station that would have picked up whatever hit the Pentagon were confiscated by US government officials soon after the incident and have never been seen in public. There are many other facts surrounding the incidents of 9/11 that the Western governments don't want the public to know about for fear of the horrible truth being exposed.
Hulk Hogan told me the moon landing was fake. When will the cover ups stop! In all seriousness, not only would you have to assume our government is sinister but also competent enough to pull off the greatest single engineering project and cover up in history. You are giving them entirely too much credit. Few of them are smart enough to spell conspiracy.
As far as the Trade Center coming down one must take a few things into consideration. The first thing to think about is the strength of the steel, as steel heats up it looses strength and become soft and bendable. The second thing to think about is what is called Shrink ( Shrink is how much a metal shrinks as it cools down ). What happened is the steel got longer as it heated up in the fire, from what I can find out is it could have got as far as 6 to 8 foot longer then what it's normal length was maybe even a little longer then that. Now we take the steel getting longer and softer because of the heat of the fire and you have a building falling down. The thinking at the time the Trade Center was built was if a plane hit it, the plane would be low on fuel, the planes that hit the World Trade Center had most of their fuel onboard they where to fly from coast to coast not short hops, giving the fires lots of fuel to burn for a longer time. Add all this up and you have a event that was not planned for by the Arcitect. I was trained in the Navy has a HT, we where in charge of the ship-board firefighting and damage control, we also did the welding and other types of metal working, the ship I was on even had a foundry where I learned about how much metal shrinks it is more them people realize. Because of my Navy training and the ship I was on I understand how everything came together to bring down the World Trade Center.
Just money grabbing officials trying to string out their salary for sitting in on yet another board of inquiry. money for old rope.
Oh please. I really want a wrestler in charge of my investigations. I'd like someone to explain how they managed to tear out all the sheetrock in order to drill, place charges on, and wire up every structural piece of steel in both towers without the 50,000 people who worked there noticing.
IF this clandestine U.S. government group were sophisticated and powerful enough to orchestrate an attack of this magnitude to leave plausible evidence that it was an al qaeda attack which the group would acknowledge before being prompted, in order to provoke a war with that same group as a periphery target and I suppose Iraq as the main target, then why wasn't the U.S. able to adequately prosecute the wars that were intended? After all, once the war was on, it was mostly supported, had much more considerable financial backing and the full force of the combined military at this point. Or did they inflict such horrific casualties, stain our national character, and help wreck the economy just to line the pockets of themselves and their cronies? That sounds very complicated just to make some bucks.
August 05, 2010, 01:08, Cowcharge wrote > Oh please. I really want a wrestler in charge of my investigations. I'd like someone to explain how they managed to tear out all the sheetrock in order to drill, place charges on, and wire up every structural piece of steel in both towers without the 50,000 people who worked there noticing. Google for this text : the unprecedented shut down of the towers only days before 911.
History repeat itself just like Pearl Harbour inviting attack after receiving warning information from Europe allies country. Do we aware CIA or Intelligence Agency have a job in every country. It is not about the white house or the general government or even our President a.k.a prime minister have the final decision or first intention of idea to propagate the nation. Common sense and logic of fact that the fighter jet plane who attempt kamikaze are not flying direct from Japan to Pearl Harbour, it stop and take a break on many island before that. For WTC, is a proven history indicator that a war can happen any time any course and it just need a good reason that people can believe or feel the emotion for a tragic event or losses. It is always a pyramid scheme to vote the power and only the top person can do anything and people below them is just a base to stand ;)
August 06, 2010, 23:12, Vlad wrote > August 05, 2010, 01:08, Cowcharge wrote > > Oh please. I really want a wrestler in charge of my investigations. I'd like someone to explain how they managed to tear out all the sheetrock in order to drill, place charges on, and wire up every structural piece of steel in both towers without the 50,000 people who worked there noticing. > Google for this text : > the unprecedented shut down of the towers only days before 911. How about answering his question? Never mind, I'll do it: I've yet find anything that shows this "power down" occurred, and even if it did, since when do building demolitions start by going halway up a building and starting there?
"Giving WTC building 7 coverage would prompt uncomfortable questions from the public." It's had coverage. And the collapse was explained by NIST years ago. Perhaps Truthers should try actually getting a clue about the topic. "The north and south towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts from a Boeing 707 which was the biggest airliner flying at the time of the buildings design." ...but which did not hit the building. Duh. Next question... "Both towers collapsed in near freefall fashion in around 10 seconds. This defies the laws of physics for a structure made of steel and concrete." And what are these laws? Oh, and that never happened anyway. "Hani Hanjour...logged zero hours in a Boeing 757...was rubbish in a Cessna...then goes on to fly the 757 in a manouvre that would give experienced pilots a tough time... I'd think being a shit pilot would be an asset for someone tasked with crashing a plane. And experienced pilots rarely devote time to mastering flying skills like those employed by crappy, suicidal piolts; I doubt they can be expected to be good at them. "No major wreckage that suggests a 757 airliner crashed at the Pentagon was found" Besides landing gear, tires, engine parts, chunks of the fuselage, charred passengers... "CCTV tapes from a nearby gas station...were confiscated by US government officials...and never been seen in public." Judicial Watch successfully pressed for the release of those tapes under the FOIA four years ago. Of course, when they didn't support the Truth Movements' BS claims, they were overlooked dismissed as frauds like all the other evidence. "There are many other facts surrounding the incidents of 9/11 that the Western governments don't want the public to know..." They must rest easy then, knowing that most Truthers can't be bothered to actually look anything up.
"lets see; us airforce simulates an attack of the trade centers that morning" And...? "ask yourself how a 767 can fly like a cruise missle and slam into the pentagon (most secure building in america) without being blown to smithereens buy a thousand missles" I don't need to, because I'm not an idiot. Cruise missiles fly, so to jets. The security protocols used by the Pentagon tend to focus on stuff like espionage, info security, preventing/limiting access to secure areas, and such...getting with with a plane is not a security the Pentagon worried much about. WHere would all the missiles to blow up the plane come from? Does the US generally smack down errant flights that can't be identified if they are even detected? And "pull it" refers to demo methods not involving explosives. So even if I was gullible enough to think that Silverstein ordered his property blown up and then copped to it to a film crew, it's still wrong.615321
The towers were detonated from within.
shlep, your posts are complete garbage.










Too long a taboo subject. And why would genuine discussion about this be constantly subverted? As evidenced by Huffington removing Jesse's post about 9/11. It is a litmus test as to who is really interested in real discussion about whatat is shaping our world-views, and what is merely "gate-keeping". We should all be incenses at those who try to "decide" for us what is potentially true and what is hear-say.