“Major concession by Russia to the US”
Published: 09 July, 2009, 02:31
Edited: 20 December, 2009, 16:41
“We have not been told what concessions America made in return for the flights to Afghanistan [via Russia]. If none, Medvedev and Putin will have to answer to the Russian political class,” says Stephen Cohen, NYU.
Russia is its own boss, it neither cares or worries about childish concepts of who makes the first move. Russia is an expert diplomat, having without doubt the best leaders in the world, in terms of expereince and capability. The Russian leadership is the decision maker in Russia. Others, not Obama, are the leaders in the US; he is just the spokesman. So, who is in the better position to move first, the one, who can make decisions, or the one who needs to go back and check with the bosses first. This was Russia giving the spokesman something to go back and bargain with, it was a product of Russian diplomacy, thinking and vision. Now without attaching strings, they will wait to see if the seeds sprout from the American political ground. If Obama can exert influence and rise to take control of America, not just in name, but in body too, then he will reciprocate. What that reciprocation will be, we do not yet know, but whatever it is, will set the trajectory for further development. The ball is now in the Americans court, Russia has enabled the game to start, it served first. Now we wait to see what game the US will play, will the ball come back, will it be driven out of court, will America walk off court? who knows, let's see if it will be a grand slam worthy occassion.
July 09, 2009, 08:15, Rikard Baric wrote > Cohen’s conclusion explains the main difference of the two mindsets. USA pretends and effectively uses to drive any governance. Russian harbors the discretion and no media or “political class” steering or stirring the governance level. It is the subtle understanding of the confidence West has lost thanks to their pretending media service ending in governmental entropy. > Thus – there is nothing the Russian governance has to answer – and the thing still runs! As it was in the time of Yeltsin sell-out and the sell-out of all East -Europe from 1945 until now !? Don't be naive and too precious in your words ! You will see something nasty about the "confidence".Just wait a little bit ! Those who created the actual perfect collapse of perfect World Gambling Banks system and earlier the Best of Communism are not sleeping ! And you will see"subtle understanding"and ""governmental entropy " Russia it own boss?! In what kind of dream world are you living ! The boss of Russia it the same as it was all ways now with other up to date names !
that´s ridicolous, soldiers of us- and their satelites are dying for Russia´s southern flank, that´s enough for me .... and let´s wait all for the "unbiased, fair and current" report coming up in a few month´s about the anti-russian-shield in the heart of europe, if it is still "needed" ...
Russia doesnt trust NATO or the USA . After what happend to Yugoslavia . Yelsin trusted NATO and convienced Milosevic that Russian soldiers will protect the innocent muslims and the orthadox christians in Kosovo , Kosovo will remain with Serbia . US presidential candidate Wesley Clark the commander of all NATO forces gave the orders to shoot the Russians . The English refused the orders , but Yelsin's troops were never able to protect the people that wanted to keep Kosovo in Serbia . The muslim terrorists were allowed to freely kill or expell all opposition . Kosovo was than donated to Albainia . None of UN resolution 1244 was kept . Yelsin was defeated in Yugoslavia , and He was defeated in Russia . Russia believes NATO and the United States treated Yugoslavia very unfair , almost like the nazis . and may very well pull the same kind of tricks on them . So president Obama has his work cut out for him , He somehow has to get Russia to trust america again . It wont be easy considering all whats happend . Obama is maybe the only one that just might be able to do this .
Cp6uja said: "that´s ridicolous, soldiers of us- and their satelites are dying for Russia´s southern flank, that´s enough for me " Rubbish. When the Taleban were in control of most of Afghanistan the illegal drug trade in Afghanistan was almost non existent. Now that NATO are there there are probably more Russians dying from illegal drugs per year than were killed during the 10 years the Soviets were in Afghanistan. Soldiers of the US and her stooges are dying because George W Bush is an idiot. The only viable solution for the region is pumping money in there to build stable countries of whatever political system (it really doesn't matter whether it is a democracy or dictatorship). Stable countries are bad for terrorist orgs like Al Quada. Trying to fix Afghanistan is beyond even Americas capacity simply because if they find Osama they will be gone the next day leaving everyone else to clean up, just like they did in the 80s when the Soviets left the country.
Cohen’s conclusion explains the main difference of the two mindsets. USA pretends and effectively uses to drive any governance. Russian harbors the discretion and no media or “political class” steering or stirring the governance level. It is the subtle understanding of the confidence West has lost thanks to their pretending media service ending in governmental entropy. Thus – there is nothing the Russian governance has to answer – and the thing still runs!