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What’s next for the US war in Afghanistan?

Published: 26 June, 2010, 02:54
Edited: 26 June, 2010, 22:52

A Marine from 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment, ground guides a vehicle into position near a temporary observation post in Southern Shorshork, Helmand province, Afghanistan, during the first day of Operation Cobra, June 16. (1st Marine Division Public Affairs / Photo by Sgt. Mark Fayloga)

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Many are wondering how the switch from Gen. McChrystal to Gen. Petraeus will affect the policy and strategy in Afghanistan.

The Obama administration said the switch was only a change in command, not a change in policy.

Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do,” said investigative journalist and RT Contributor Wayne Madsen.

He continued, “We’re already hearing that Gen Petraeus will change those rules of engagement to allow troops to have a lot more leeway and I think one of the downsides of that is we’re going to see a lot more civilian casualties. Petraeus certainly has a track record in Iraq of that, where he brought in a lot of questionable people.”

Madsen argued that Petraeus “takes a blind eye” to fraud and abuse, including abuse of civilians by American troops.

US troops complained about the level of restrictions under McChrystal. McChrystal’s strict rules were in place however to ensure civilian casualties were limited to aid in the nation-building efforts.

In Iraq, Petraeus increased the number of US contractors dramatically and the CIA has recently enlisted new contracts with the former Blackwater, now Xe. Madsen argues that this trend is likely to continue and that as the war evolves Petraeus will lay the ground work for a huge US contractor presence in Afghanistan.

The US Senate confirmation of Petraeus is expected to be swift since he is well liked by many in the congress. It is unlikely he will be challenged or heavily questioned about his plans for Afghanistan.

Well we don’t have senators like we used to and we don’t have generals like we used to. Certainly Petraeus is no General Eisenhower,” said Madsen.

The Senate has abrogated its responsibilities in these areas,” he said.

Madsen argues that Petraeus is the neo-conservatives’ general and that he likely has plans for Iran that McChrystal did not have. Some have even argued that Petraeus has plans to run for the US presidency.

Watch the full interview with Danny Schechter

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Film-maker Danny Schechter would also agree that the change is not merely that of the commander-in-chief.

“They already begin to lose the word ‘withdraw’ and substitute [it with] the word ‘draw-down’, which is filled with much more ambiguity – not specific, not tied to any particular troop level. So they can be drawing down their troops for ten years, without necessarily withdrawing them,” says Danny Schechter. “[The military] want more money, they want more troops, they want endlessly more.”

“Nobody wants to be the guy that lost Afghanistan, especially not President Obama,” adds Mr. Schechter.

Watch the full interview with Jack Rice


Attorney and former CIA officer Jack Rice argued that Petraeus is indeed likely to change policies in Afghanistan, including loosening the rules of engagement and adding to the overall number of US contractors on the ground.

Rice said that McChrystal’s policy of “courageous restraint” was designed to “deal with the insurgency itself.

He argued that from the Afghan perspective collateral damage was seen as murder by American troops and that McChrystal’s strategy was designed to change that. Petraeus however will likely be more aggressive.

The problem is that the more aggressive we become, the more those same people will die, the harder it is for the Afghan government and for the American to convince the Afghans we’re there for them,” said Rice.

The more aggressive the US becomes, the greater the Taliban can focus on turning the Afghan people against the United States and NATO, argued Rice.

This is exactly what the Russians did; they went in with a scorched earth policy and destroyed everything in front of them. By the way, things didn’t play so well for the Russian either,” said Rice.

Obama has opted to continue with the same concepts as former President George W. Bush. He has continued on the same path with the utilization of contractors.

We have more contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan than we have actual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines combined,” said Rice.

He continued, explaining that because Petraeus achieved some success in Iraq, it is not reason to assume he will be successful in Afghanistan. Iraq and Afghanistan are not interchangeable. They are different geographically, culturally, and governmentally, he argued.

To simply say what we did in Iraq will work in Afghanistan is absolutely false,” said Rice. “We will not win this war, we truly won’t.

Watch the full interview with Josh Stieber


Iraq Veteran and anti-war activist Josh Stieber said that Petraeus will indeed be more aggressive in Afghanistan and that a more aggressive policy is counterproductive to the overall mission of nation-building.

Some believe Petraeus could possibly push back the withdraw date and seek additional troops. Stieber expressed hope that Obama would hold to the withdraw timetable and get out of Afghanistan to bring a close to the violence.

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Kihnu June 26, 2010, 22:25
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American military often claims that the reason they lost the Vietnam war was because they were not as brutal as they should have been with the Vietnamese people. The American military is now adamant that this mistake will not be repeated in Afghanistan. I expect the Americans will end up killing millions of Afghans in their scorched earth to stave off defeat. The Germans tries these scorched earth tactics during their occupation of Russia and failed. Now, the Americans want to set the record straight that if a foreign invader kills the occupied people without conscience of guilt, victory is sure to follow. We will see how successful the Americans will be in this bloody affair.

Kihnu June 26, 2010, 14:08
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An immediate change will be a rapid rise in the death and maiming of Afghan men, women and children as the Americans now raze Afghani villages to the ground in order not to "lose the war".

Count Cash June 26, 2010, 10:37
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The normal advice is, when in a hole, stop digging! So what is next; more war, more deaths, both military and civilian, more corruption, more drugs, more dysfunctional government, more foreign influence and intervention (Read just about everyone, for a bit of the cash action and Iran and Pakistan for the political action). It's an absolute mess, a self made quagmire. More importantly, what will be the outcome and when. Well I suppose if the US put nearly all their military resources in, attacked all the countries that help support this mess from the other side (who complement the western forces causing the mess from the western side). Then after a mega regional war, you may just get a state of imperial control that would calm things down. But there are some downsides and risks here. Maybe it could even get bigger, and the game is totally lost from a western perspective - China town USA. But the US is smarter than that (I hope!), so probably it will be a face saving effort of train and contain. Basically train the Afghans to look after themselves in the western created mess, and leave it be. Then contain any Afghan originated global terrorist exports. that have been innovatively developed alongside drugs by the west. The Opium Valley and Terrorist Valley approach. Basically control the movement of people and materials and keep on Bombing from outside any increasing threats. But the train and contain needs something to make it work, and that something is cooperation with the rest of the world, and a movement away from the go it alone policy previously followed. None of this is a bad thing, it builds a true consistent policy in the world and ends western hyocrisy, as the west is forced to call all terrorists, terrorists, there is no good one. It also leaves Afghanistan sort itself out, acknowledging that the west, created many of those problems. But the creator of the problem, is not the right solver, because of mindset, everyone knows that.