Black Hawk down: US looking to buy Russian helicopters
Published: 16 September, 2010, 17:38
Edited: 22 September, 2010, 05:33
TAGS: Arms, Conflict, Military, NATO, Russia, Protest, Politics, Terrorism, Afghanistan, USA, Robert Bridge
With NATO forces advancing on fortified Taliban positions ahead of parliamentary elections, the US Defense Secretary has stated his interest in purchasing Russian helicopters.
Saying that Russian-built helicopters are “well-suited for Afghanistan,” US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said the United States is interested in buying Russian Mi-17 helicopters in the ongoing battle against Taliban forces.
“We are obviously interested in buying Mi-17 helicopters. They are well-suited for Afghanistan. Afghans are familiar with them,” Gates said in an interview with Interfax.
Although the number of Russian-built military aircraft the US military wants to buy is said to be “limited”, Gates admitted that he has received flak from US helicopter manufacturers who are asking why America is interested in buying Russian models.
“We are getting, frankly, some pushback here in the United States by American helicopter manufacturers wondering why we are interested in buying Russian ones,” Gates said. “The buy that we have in mind is pretty limited, but we'll have to work our way through the politics of that.”
Afghanistan is bracing itself for parliamentarian elections this weekend as US and Afghan forces advance against dug-in Taliban positions in order to prevent any attacks on voters.
Both the Taliban and Hizb-i-Islami, a militant insurgent group led by warlord and former Afghan Prime Minister Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, have condemned the elections and urged people to stay home.
Gates said the ability of the US Army to purchase the Mi-17 helicopters depended on Congress.
“I honestly don't know,” the Defense Secretary said. “It really depends on being able to get the money from the Congress."
Russian skepticism
Despite the success in the US-Russian effort in Afghanistan, Russian Permanent Representative to NATO Dmitry Rogozin expressed apprehension of the plan, citing the cost to Russian taxpayers.
“We are ready to take part in [the supply of Russian helicopters, which are in demand by the Afghan army] but we must think about Russian taxpayers. The taxpayers need to know what economic benefits Russia will get in addition to general political declarations of Russian security,” he told Interfax on Wednesday.
Rogozin then said that Russia’s military would suffer without the helicopters.
“We will have to deprive Russian servicemen of these helicopters. Is it not better to deter threats coming from Afghanistan with the strengthening of the Russian army? That is a very serious question, and it is impossible to make further progress without solving the financial problem first,” he said.
Russia wants assist however it can in Afghanistan, and is already supplying firearms and helping with the reconstruction of the Afghan army so that it can independently guarantee the security of Afghanistan and prevent it from becoming a security threat to its neighbors, Rogozin said.
Meanwhile, NATO Secretary General Andres Fogh Rasmussen also proposed that Russia supply Afghanistan with helicopters.
Russia made a detailed reply based on the capacities of Russian helicopter makers.
“Now we need to find a sponsor,” Rogozin said, according to Interfax. “There are certain intentions, and negotiations continue. Some well-to-do countries have sent positive signals.”
The Mil Mi-17 helicopter played a key role in the Soviet war in Afghanistan, where it served as both troop carrier and gunship.
The reason for NATO’s interest in the multi-role Russian-built helicopter is its greater carrying capacity as compared with the US-made Black Hawk.
In 2008, the Royal Thai Army, for example, announced a deal to buy six Mi-17s, marking the first time the Thai military acquired Russian aircraft instead of American.
Flight International quoted the Thai army’s rationale: “We are buying three Mi-17 helicopters for the price of one Black Hawk. The Mi-17 can also carry more than 30 troops, while the Black Hawk [the US military’s standard utility helicopter] could carry only 13 soldiers. These were the key factors behind the decision.”
Thus, it appears that US and Afghan forces are looking for more efficient ways of getting more fighting troops to the action as the fight for Afghanistan continues.
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Zak, likewise, thank you for your comments. How ever, I would like to differ from your assessment of the past glory of Russia for the following reasons. First, the Russia/Soviet armies have not been always successful. Russia/Soviet Union had number of well known defeats including the war between Japan and imperial Russian Army, 1938 war between the Soviet Union and Finland and the 1941-42 period of the German invasion of the Soviet Union. Second, and this relates to my first point, thus, the notion that Russia is a graveyard for imperialists is good a myth but very dangerous myth. This is because, we need to keep in mind that Russia became under the Soviet Communists rule because the nation had been weaken morally, politically and militarily. Today, I see clear signs that Russia is again in state of moral decline. This moral decline will facilitate the would be conquerors of Russia. Think about it: Russia's Minister of Defense stands shoulder to shoulder with the Minister of War of the Empire of Chaos.What would the rest of the world think of Russia? Keep in mind that winter may had been a great defense in WWII or in 1812 against the Napoleonic army! Today’s imperialists can conquer winter much faster than the army of the Third Reich. Today, we are living in the age technological supremacy over space. Today, Russia’s greatest threat comes from moral corruption that may expose the nation to the designs of the very oligarchs who brought Russia to its knees in the 1990s. Have you noticed now in Russia economic fraud is not considered a crime against the people. This is part of modernizing Russia. Now Russia’s military would be equipped with U.S made weapons. As for these helicopters, this is a gimmick PR stunt. The Americans are selling billions dollars of BlackHawks to the ME oil sheikhdoms and elsewhere. This is PR stunt to bring Russia onboard to the agendas of the empire of chaos.
September 17, 2010, 11:46, Meslin wrote > PR101 is absolutely correct. If such a deal is made; it will mean that the actual Russian leadership has no morale values. It forgot that American weapons have killed thousands of your soldiers. It will also show that Russia is now a typical capitalist state. I also thought that your Constitution forbid to sell armaments and their delivery systems to aggressive states. Unfortunately with a businessman president who has a cash-register instead of brain, you can expect anything. PR101's remark about drugs invasion in Russia should be sufficient to ignore such a stupid sale... > Sorry Future Russian Generations ! Your friend...JCM JCM, How soon you forget! Do you remember the "Soviets" in Vietnam killing THOUSANDS of US soldiers? Watch RT, You will see a show about this! "Soviets" were there only as advisors.........That's a LAUGH!












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