Communist commune in US prospers while economy flounders
Published: 14 December, 2009, 13:21
Edited: 20 September, 2010, 13:03
City dwellers are spurning capitalist culture for a more relaxing and fulfilling lifestyle at a Twin Oaks commune in rural America.
Communism is not my cup of tea at all, but that is the whole point. When communism becomes attached to a whole nation, without opt out for individuals, then it truly becomes problematic for those who want none of it. But when it is an opt in within an area, I see absolutley no issues with it at all. But that again is the same for rampant uncontrolled Bankism, where by financial circumstance every body is placed under oppressive control. This is also not my cup of tea. Indeed if you consider greater good, you can have some fine arguments in favour of communism (but I leave these to the playrights). So for me as long as a state, prevents Bankism, and allows people to form whatever associations and groups they wish within the framework of the state, such that there is no compulsory opt ins (guaranteed by a constitution) and always an opt out, then live and let live. However, this is not the whole, but just a part, so it is not by definition the whole. But the whole should be always from individuals, and the parts also. The whole is not a monolitic part. Because extremes are never good for anything other than structural failure.
Count Cash, communism might not be in your cup of tea at the moment but if I were I would think twice of this sentiment. I just read few minutes ago Russia’s Nationalist Party has reelected its hardline nationalist leader and that the Nationalist party could command as much as 30% of the total vote in the next general election in Russia! . By suppressing communist and other left leaning forces, Russia’s political space is giving opportunity for the rise of nationalistic and fascist political culture. The elite are happy at the moment living off the resources but Russia cannot afford not meet the needs of needs which give legitimacy to communism in the United States. Artyom, my friend ideology does matter!
If communism is voluntary, I have no problem with it. A lot of Utopian communities here in USA in the nineteenth century were built around that model. The problem with any human community is the effort involved to get everybody to work together. So, most of these "communes" fall apart after a few years. The ones that last decades are unusual. The concept gets popular again when either the times are tough or housing is too expensive. Communities like this were in the alternative news about three years ago, when housing was so expensive that people were forming "consortiums" to buy land and houses. If one researches "survival communities", there are similar situations. Given the times we are in, I expect to read more stories like this one.
I find this story amusing. It reminds me of the Hippy commune of the 1960's in the United States. Well, I wish them good luck. Notice that they cannot be self-sufficient. They need people and resources from the outside. I wonder if it bothers them that they actually need the market economy to survive. They are just another participant within it. What they cannot make for themselves they have to trade with other participants in the market economy to get. Gee, funny how Adam Smith's invisible hand still moves among even idealist. Sarah, sweetheart, don't get hung up on analogies based on the French parliament of old. If you go more right of a fascist you come to a communist. Fascism and Communism are sisters because of their shared faith in the salvation through the state. They just go about it differently. Expand your view of the political realities. Other political theories exist in which the followers put their faith in other entities than the state. A good part of American conservatism--that would be classical liberalism to the rest of the world-- has roots in religious faith--a God who provides to those who plan and act in faith; other parts of American conservatism trusts the individual to make the best decision for his or her survival and destiny. This is just to name one. I am sure there are other political theories that do not put faith in the state and dogmatically believe in some historical destiny. Finally, the idea of people helping each other and sharing out of their resources to help those in need is an idea that goes back to biblical times; check out the book of Acts in the Bible. Amish, a Protestant sect in America, help each other build barns. Numerous charities exist to help people with different needs. Other communities than Communist communes offer relief in tough economic times.
Please go through the below video of RT to know the inevitable danger of the capital centric economy. http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-12-22/detroit-death-hope-recovery.html?fullstory
Twin Oaks is not "communist". Find out about something before you write dumb headlines like that. Read up on commuism. Research that commune. The two are very diffferent. Yet another drop of ignorance added to the ocean!










Working together has great benefits and doesn't have to follow a political ideology. In America, individualism and consumerism was promoted to the point of it being nonsense. "He lives with his parents" and "He rides the bus to school" Are stigmas used to make people enter the market at any cost for a perceived image of being independent and American. Do these type of social casts really help people? They do nothing to help people, but help big businesses. In America, you can find that big home with 3 car garage and cars for every member of the family. Not so in other parts of the world. Is this by design or accident? I think when people begin helping each other instead of themselves is when real rewards in life begin and is how America was founded. True family values and knowing your neighbors, helping others are a perfect lead to the a better future.