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Published: 22 May, 2010, 01:16
Edited: 24 May, 2010, 11:46


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A draft version of NATO’s new mission statement released May 17 recommends keeping an estimated 200 US air-dropped gravity nuclear bombs on military bases throughout Europe.

 
3 COMMENTS
Count Cash May 22, 2010, 09:54 quote
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Their presence is militarily irrelevent in a sole European context, they are weapons that would never be used other than if the US is directly under large scale threat or any attack. Hstory shows clearly that the US will not risk itself (quite right), unless it itself is under direct threat or attack. NATO article 5 is just a piece of paper, that can be interpreted as the US sees fit in any prevailing conditions, basically in terms of the risk to itself against likely return on the engagement. People need understand that European security needs a European dimension and ownership. Even recently it is shown that even sending paper printable by the US in any amounts they want, can not have the political will behind it to send to europe via the IMF, when someone in Europe is in trouble. The truth is that Europe is of strategic importance to the US, however, there is a limit to what the US is prepared to pay for that importance. If even recent things like IMF loans prove difficult and the reasons behind late intervention in WW2 are considered. It can be seen that Europe will be very much on its own with US 'support' unless the US homestead looks to be catching fire. The cold war safety interlocks, of which these weapons are a part, certainly help in lowering the chances of an immediate large scale Russian US nuclear conflict, after all that is what they were designed for. However, in that very design and thinking, Europe has been left open to smaller conflicts that can become escalatory and gain momentum over time, the creep towards another large scale war in europe through a piecewise escalation is indeed very possible with the current security architecture. So in reality getting rid of these weapons is only factored against Russian US security, they have nothing to do with European security, other that directly through US security. If the US isn't threatened then the weapons are off limits. They are not needed for sole European security

PR101 May 22, 2010, 16:22 quote
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Yes this guy comes across somebody with tunnel vision by repeating the same points again and again. But the he is he is spot on when he says that Obama does not want nuclear free world; Obama wants to dominate the nuclear strategy. The U.S silence of nuclear Israel, the U.S aggressive attempt to deny nuclear weapons to nations it considers not friendly to the U.S, the U.S strategy to push star wars and missile shields right to the borders of Russia strongly support this professor’s central claim that what U.S wants is not nuclear free world but a world dominated by the United States. Now, NATO is doing the U.S bidding by pushing the star wars to the borders of Russia even as the U.S negotiated dubious reset deal with Russia.

bravewarrior May 24, 2010, 03:40 quote
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PR101 Perhaps you will remember that the US was encouraging their puppet the 'Shah' of Iran to buy American weapons and built a nuclear reactor with the US's assistance. Iran was a gambit in the cold war to become a US aircraft carrier in the sands of the middle east and on the border of Russia. This is the role Israel has assumed since the fall of the Shah. The nuclear weapons that Israel has stockpiled are for the defense of America proper and to dominate the countries of the ME. The US secretly and in violation of treaties stored nuclear weapons in Okinawa. The Japanese people seem to have a case to abrogate treaties with the US, including basing rights with this violation alone. With the election of a PM who promised to address the grievances of the population who is demanding removal of the hated bases, the opportune events in the Korean peninsula seems most helpful to remind the Japanese why they need American bases. Not too long ago the Americans had to shoot down one of its' own satellites after heavily criticizing the Chinese for doing the same. Does anyone else suspect or believe that the Americans might have nuclear weapons in space. For the US to defame Iran as untrustworthy and whose word is questionable from a country that signed and violated hundreds of treaties with North American natives, and throughout its history.How long ago did Bush unilaterally abrogate the ABM treaty. NATO has troops in SE Asia to protect American interests, not any real European threats from the Taliban! Since the US can no longer afford to send squadrons of F-15s it is certainly cheaper to reassure the European public that it is safe because the US has outdated, cold war weapons in storage there. Yes Count Cash you are so right. All of the strange recent events, including our upsurge of earthquakes worldwide, can only be analysed after asking whose interests are most benefited and where does money flow.

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