An old Russian saying has it that there are no former intelligence officers. The work of spies requires levels of dexterity, loyalty, and discretion that usually go far beyond field assignments. But what if serving one’s country reveals something that negates its most foundational and cherished values? What then constitutes treason – keeping mum about the abuses or sharing the dirty secrets with the public and potential enemies? To discuss this, Oksana is joined by John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer and a former Senior Investigator for the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee.