No coincidence that the growth of the bloated EU coincides with the death of democracy, which is why we must leave this club of nations before it becomes a club of occupied nations. Who will govern it; un-elected eurocrat elites from Brussels, Germany-France or just Germany? Either way the people will have no real say in it least of all citizens in the smaller countries.

@ RamsesSeems to me that it would never work and has never worked. If so it would have happened already and would never have failed. A lack of resources will lead to progressive new ideas and only help the human race. As we have seen for years. lack of something like water has givin us new ways to collect water ,What we have learned from the lacking resources may help us when we begin colonizing other planets. Lessons are learned because of problems. It is not in our best intrest to work together in fact it can cripple us terribly. If you say there was never democracy in Europe it is a good possibility that you do not believe in communism or fascism because of how ancient cultures used ideas that began those beliefs. Ideologies evolve even though they are based on the same vague beliefs. Democracy-freedom Fascism-ideology Communism-economy.I have seen enough to relize that communism and working together usually means that the lazy and weak sit around while the strong and active work , but because of equality (not fairness) they all get paid the same. Same for Europe the weak like Greece would just sit back while Germany works. Only weak men and women who have no faith in their own country's ability to solve problems would suggest what you did. Understand?

Roger Coze wrote in #1
we could already be out of time to save European democracy, the nationalists and socialists may take over soon. Is this really what people wanted? There never was any democracy in europe! Democracy was meant to function in a village and was a dictatorship of the "deme" - the ones that rule the "demos" (gr.: village)! So we might need a european desaster for everybody to wake up and realy care for each other, to become reasonable in terms of resources and infrastructure! Because there is no other way for humanity to overcome it's disfuncionality than to shift in conciousness and see, that it's best for each one of us to do what's best for ALL of us! Understand?