Moscow Region plans to outlaw propaganda of all non-conventional sex relationships

Published time: November 22, 2012 09:28
Edited time: November 22, 2012 13:28
Moscow Gay Pride  (RIA Novosti / Andrey Stenin)

Months after legislators in St Petersburg made the headlines by banning gay propaganda towards minors, their colleagues from the Moscow Region plan to outlaw the promotion of all ‘non-traditional’ sexual relationships.

The Moscow Region has a population of about 7 million, and does not include the city of Moscow city which is governed separately.

Unlike St. Petersburg that outlawed the propaganda of homosexuality, bisexuality and transgender among minors, Moscow Region plans to ban the propaganda of any non-traditional sexual relationship, without listing them as these are “beyond any count,” Izvestia daily reported quoting a member of the regional Council of MunicipalAssemblies, Aleksandr Naumov.

Regional legislators also suggest breaking the future law would be considered by magistrates and punished by fines of up to 5000 roubles (about $170) for private persons and up to 250,000 roubles (over $800) in case of first-time offence. For the repeated offences the fines are doubled.

The current draft suggests the formula of non-traditional sexual relations that are described as “homosexuality, bisexuality, sadomasochism and other deviations of sexual behavior”. Propaganda is described as “popularization of non-traditional relations and presenting them as a norm”.

According to Naumov, the first reading on the new bill is scheduled for December 8.

However, the press service of the regional legislature said that there were no plans to consider the ban on propaganda of non-conventional sex as in its current form the draft contradicted certain federal laws.

Russian society has never been very tolerant to sexual minorities, but the attitude became softer after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the cancellation of the criminal prosecution of homosexuals. Over the past year, however, Russian authorities started a broad campaign against “gay propaganda”, mostly on a regional level.

Currently the laws banning gay propaganda exist in eight of Russia’s 83 federal districts.

Gay activists oppose the bans as discrimination. So far they have pressed for the Constitutional Court to rule that gay pride events are not propaganda, but the struggle continues.

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Count Cash 30.11.2012 06:56

Finally smoke permeating lungs is no different to thoughts permeating a brain. In a democracy, people are entitled to choose the values of their society, the way they want it to go and to expend effort to promote those values, they are also entitled to control pollution of that environment by the ‘smokey’ noise of people at odds with those values, brains can be damaged too! So when all is said and done, the real argument is that Russia fails to allow promotion of western culture and ideas, with the Gay movement being used as a pawn and tool to achieve that. When the argument is pared back to this, and I look at the failure of other culturally destroying western choices, like mass uncontrolled immigration, then not only do I see the point to our legislation, I even become proud that we are brave enough to enforce our values as a norm, and stand up to what is simply western cultural meddling in our country! If some of our people want western culture and values. Why don’t you let them come and enjoy those values in the west, why do you show intolerance to them, by not giving them visa free travel, why do you imprison Gay Russians instead of embracing them and letting them live with you. In denying them this, it becomes clear that you are trying to change Russia to your values, and not support these people. Indeed it becomes even clearer that you are simply using them as pawns and tools to foist your views on Russia as a political agenda.

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Count Cash 30.11.2012 06:48

Just because a human rights group decides to argue something as a human right, it doesn’t make it a human right. It just makes it something that they wish to promote and foist on others using human rights emotional leverage. To reference them, really shows the weakness of your argument and that this is all about foisting the western culture and values on Russia, because the human rights groups basically do that under the façade of true legal human rights. Basically you define western culture and values as a human right and then claim breach if anyone acts outside of those self prescriptions, a true self invented legal nonsense. In terms of foisting, it is the Gay movement that is attempting to do the foisting, without any democratic mandate or democratic compliance. The government is entitled to represent the cultural values and norms the people want HERE, that is sovereign democracy. If people want to change the law, persuade the public otherwise then they can represent themselves in a way that promotes the law change NOT promotes the underlying behaviour. In the same way someone may want hate speech legislation changed, they can do this by protesting against the law, not going on the streets practicing hate speech in contravention of that law as a promotion event, claiming some underlying fictitious human rights underpinning. In terms of Occupy,Communism.. the argument doesn’t stand because protesting regarding wealth distribution/politic s is part of the normal political rump, and also your arguments on Muslims also fall very wide of the mark and show your ignorance of Russia – do some research and see what special Muslim festival days go on regularly here, because it is part of us. (continued)

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1voice 30.11.2012 01:43

"Yes you can argue that promotion should be allowed, you can have a protest against the law in the streets, but what you cannot do is either use that protest as a promotion itself or promote in direct violation of the law. You need persuade people first, not try to foist your promotion on them as dictators."
That is exactly what Russia is doing; foisting an idealized view of lifestyle on people who want to exercise their (non-existant) right of expression.  If Muslims want to have a parade promoting the Islamic faith and lifestyle, should they not be allowed to march because Russia has been Christian for the last couple thousand years?  
As to smoking; smoke can get into your lungs if someone is smoking next to you, but you can catch 'the gay' from walking by a parade or club.  How many young Russians see how poorly gays are treated in their country and then decide 'Hey, that look like a fun way to live,'?  
My 'legal foundation for freedom of expression as a human right' can be echoed from any human rights group that advocates for marginalized and persecuted groups who have been silenced by the government for practicing in their own ways.
"Or is this all really a cultural thing, a value thing, based on the values and culture you see as normal, which you want to impose and dictate on others, is that the tolerance you really mean."
That is exactly what I am trying to say.  It is a cultural thing to be adverse to homosexuality, just as a culture can be adverse to Christianity or any political ideal.  Not all cultures agree on communism as a positive force, but that should not mean that communists should be told to shut-up or face the law.  

"Bottom line here is that people as a whole decide what should go, not a little minority, yes tolerance is required in a democracy, but only to the disposition, not the promotion of that disposition!"
So I guess we should not hold anymore Occupy Protests, which promotes equality between income levels?  Or Chicano walk-outs that promote questioning the generally accepted version of history?    It's not like gays are handing out pamphlets tryi ng to convince people to be gay.  If you don't want to, you don't have to go to a gay club.  If you are handed a leaflet for a gay-pride parade, just throw it in the trash.  You will always have the choice to express your heterosexuality however you want,  so don't try to force gays back in the closet through written law.

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