No rights, no charge: US extends ex-marine’s Facebook psych-ward term

Published time: August 21, 2012 13:13
Edited time: August 21, 2012 17:52
Screenshot of 'Support Brandon Raub' group on Facebook

Brandon J. Raub has been ordered to stay in a mental health institution for a month without charge – and contrary to the American constitution, his defense says. His supporters are concerned any American could end up in Raub’s shoes.

­US police detained Raub, 26, a Marine Corps veteran, on Thursday, without presenting any charges and even without reading to Raub his Miranda rights, and took him to John Randolph Medical Center, where he is currently being held involuntarily, his defense said in a press-release.

A video of his detention emerged online, triggering outrage online, including among American citizens and human rights activists.

"For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights [to freedom of speech], but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon," said John Whitehead, executive director of the Rutherford Institute, a civil liberties group that has come to the Raub’s defense.

The statement on the veteran’s situation posted on the Rutherford Institute website points out that Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans “who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash-talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”

Raub’s mother Cathleen Thomas told in an interview with CBS 6, a local news network, that the evaluation, as she was told by her son, “was 15 minutes long, and basically the evaluator said that he was not ready to go back into society and he needed additional psychiatric treatment.”

At a hearing on Monday held in the mental institution, government officials confirmed Raub’s Facebook posts as the only reason for his detention, paying no attention to his comments that those online messages were wrongly interpreted.

Security forces are said to be using a piece of legislation called Virginia State Code §37.2-808 Emergency custody, under which it is permitted to detain a person in a mental institution without presenting any charges against him, only upon a medic’s recommendation.

A Facebook group supporting Raub has been created and has over 4,500 members as of now.

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­Its participants call the situation “simply insane” and say that what has been happening with Raub indicates that everyone disagreeing with the government and the wars it is leading will have to keep their mouths shut.

In his Facebook posts, Raub suggested the US government is involved in 9/11 attacks and called for the arrest of some government officials.

The ex-Marine said “I’ve been very open with the things I’ve had to say on my wall on Facebook. It’s interesting to me that the government is watching Facebook in the first place. That ought to raise some eyebrows and cause some good American citizens some concern,” he added, commenting to The Daily Mail from the hospital.

FBI spokeswoman in Richmond Dee Rybiski, though, denied any monitoring of Raub’s account,

”We received quite a few complaints about what were perceived as threatening posts,” she said. “Given the circumstances with the things that have gone on in the country with some of these mass shootings, it would be horrible for law enforcement not to pay attention to complaints.”

Raub, however, said he does not even own a gun. The veteran served in the US Marine Corps from 2005 to 2011, and participated in the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns.

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dathan gotham (unregistered) 31.08.2012 04:11

”We received quite a few complaints about what were perceived as threatening posts,” she said. “Given the circumstances with the things that have gone on in the country with some of these mass shootings, it would be horrible for law enforcement not to pay attention to complaints.”
Th is is exactly concerning tbh, implying that the police are watching for complaints on social media, or such as comments that involve above related. I already knew this, moreover, Its our right to say what we want, where we want, and how we want. And I think its time the so called adults running this country take a lil break, a deep breathe, and sit back and try to relax. The world is full of hot air right now, and the last thing the US GOV needs to do, is start a CIVIL WAR! Unless that is in fact what you intend to do with those 450 million + rounds of hollow point ammunition...  

Besides, you got bigger fish to fry... lol, seriously, you guys are big trouble... not that I did it or anything, nor do you need to now a days to get sentenced to prison, jail, death, a psych ward, or who knows in what country down a well provided you earn it. LOL I think a GOOD LONG vacation could benefit you all, and a I cant imagine the stresses that are endured... but still grow the .... up! 

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Canadian (unregistered) 25.08.2012 00:05

Everyone knew this was going to happen. my guess is the gov just wanted to see what everyone would say/do. now that they know the next time this happens they will be very wel prepared for it.

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charles rogers (unregistered) 23.08.2012 23:08

When they arrest one they will arrest more. When they murder one they will continue murdering more until they run into enough armed citizens that will shoot back and then they´ll tuck their tails between their legs and run. It is time to call their bluff and start demanding justice against the traitors. When the terrorists runs the government then its time to break ties with Brittain and unite with the Southern Continent and restore Liberty and Independence. A license to practice law under the Brittish Acquired Reseach(BAR) Association. Lets bar attorneys from holding public office and abolish the license to practice law.   

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